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11-07-2014, 08:14 AM
Giantbane

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Originally Posted by Noata

I explained how fishing can work outside of in progress, that works with a group. I basically explained exactly WHY a group cant fish and gets a penalty. Their goal was simple. stop fishing, not just one type but FISHING. thats exactly why groups get penalized. ya its less frequent but what good would it be to have a double standard and make a system for stopping fishing that doesn't stop fishing...

You need only answer these. Does this stop fishing?, Does it offer normal players a reprieve from emergencies or something that takes priority. Yes, 2 free withdraws before a penalty. Does it stop people from taking advantage of the fishing system. Yes. the group gets the penalty not just the leader that can pass his role to allow more fishing. Its thought out and rock solid, and its got people pissed cuz they cant somehow take advantage of it.

And I answered THE PROBLEM YOU DESCRIBED IS SO SMALL THAT IT ALMOST DOES NOT EXIST.

Oh, and giving only the person that withdrew a strike would still give the party only so many strikes. You'd need more than that to reliably match up with the person you're talking about. So it would still stop fishing.
11-07-2014, 08:26 AM
Tupsi

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Originally Posted by winxbloom61

its a game not a friken business seriously stop taking it so serious so what if some withdraws and legit or not it dosnt matter

Game or not people don't like having their time wasted because someone finds it cute to troll the queue. If you had only 3 hours to play and you spend a total of an hour waiting for someone to stop wasting your time, guess what? You just lost 1 out of your 3 hours to play waiting just TO do content.
11-07-2014, 08:27 AM
winxbloom61

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

people like you is the reason why we cannot have nice things

no one can have nice things because cry babys like you cant deal with anything slowing u down cuz u lack no life outside of the game if you frustarted with withdraws then seriosely theres something wrong with you you need to put your controller down and go outside and get yourself a life seriously
11-07-2014, 08:29 AM
Noata

no, it gives you 6 tries, that is DOUBLE the amount of tries intended for a player. assuming the dungeon is a 4 man. What I listed was one way. if your a DPS depending on your FC's willingness to help you that exact moment, you could premade it have one guy fish as tank to help you or even get 2 people to fill the roles that havent been matched yet. say you Q and a healer gets matched and your waiting on two more.... FC helps out fishes and done. This stuff was not just happening a little. Think of a time you asked your FC to help you by Qing as the required class needed to get the Q, or even if a couple came to help. My FC has helped me at the expense of others. Now we cant, It doesnt change much except that now less people suffer cuz I want a fast Q.
11-07-2014, 08:30 AM
Tupsi

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

This was not a strike that he earned on his own. This was given to him by being in a partial party where someone else is entirely responsible. It's unreasonable. It's unnecessary. And the only purpose it serves is to create animosity and distrust between players.

So what you're saying is, based on this:

The party withdrawing gave him THREE. STRIKES. AT. ONCE.? You do realize...he had to have previous strikes on his own for one more to basically lock him out, right? So the way you're arguing is that the party withdrawing that one time gave him ALL OF THE STRIKES NEEDED TO GET A TEMP LOCKOUT.

It doesn't work that way and people against this really seem to be forgetting details. It's one of two things:

1. The person got penalized as they should.
2. There's a bug that they choose not to report.

Which is it?
11-07-2014, 08:37 AM
Dark_Legacy

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Originally Posted by winxbloom61

no one can have nice things because cry babys like you cant deal with anything slowing u down cuz u lack no life outside of the game if you frustarted with withdraws then seriosely theres something wrong with you you need to put your controller down and go outside and get yourself a life seriously

It seems like you are doing a lot of "crying" over the penalty system and maybe you should take you're own advice and if this penalty system is "frustrating you then you should put your controller down and go outside and get a life." Cause just like you said "it's just a game."
11-07-2014, 08:38 AM
Giantbane

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Originally Posted by Noata

no, it gives you 6 tries, that is DOUBLE the amount of tries intended for a player. assuming the dungeon is a 4 man. What I listed was one way. if your a DPS depending on your FC's willingness to help you that exact moment, you could premade it have one guy fish as tank to help you or even get 2 people to fill the roles that havent been matched yet. say you Q and a healer gets matched and your waiting on two more.... FC helps out fishes and done. This stuff was not just happening a little. Think of a time you asked your FC to help you by Qing as the required class needed to get the Q, or even if a couple came to help. My FC has helped me at the expense of others. Now we cant, It doesnt change much except that now less people suffer cuz I want a fast Q.

Only way this works is with a healer on one side of the server and a tank on the other server. In this case it might work because both will pop queues near instantly. Downside is since both queues will pop so fast, you need to be burning strikes on both sides. So you won't get 6 tries, 4 is probably the best you'll get and that's if you've got 2 people on each side.

Otherwise, if you're trying to link with a DPS, this will be damn near impossible to actually match up with the person on the other server unless there is NOBODY in the queue. Good luck with that now that everybody is leveling ninjas.

6 tries is not enough to make this work reliably, the limit would serve as a sufficient deterrent to the 20 people out of 2 million or so who try to pull this off.
11-07-2014, 08:40 AM
winxbloom61

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Game or not people don't like having their time wasted because someone finds it cute to troll the queue.

noone was trolling before on the queing your not counting 95% of the people who were withdrawing had a legit reason and as i said before this system dosnt stop trolls just enourages them to be more creative in the ways they troll so
deal with your time being wasted if u cant deal with a few people screwing with you then you shouldnt be online to start with their is no nicey people at all everyone is just in stuff for their own sake rather its humor or not fact is no one cares about your time expect you if u want to play with others get used to your time being wasted

and the only ones who even could troll the queing are tanks and healers why because dps gets about 2 hour ques the lowest is 50mins so honstely it dosnt matter your only going to get 1-2 dungons if ur only on for 3 hours
11-07-2014, 08:41 AM
Giantbane

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

So what you're saying is, based on this:

The party withdrawing gave him THREE. STRIKES. AT. ONCE.? You do realize...he had to have previous strikes on his own for one more to basically lock him out, right? So the way you're arguing is that the party withdrawing that one time gave him ALL OF THE STRIKES NEEDED TO GET A TEMP LOCKOUT.

It doesn't work that way and people against this really seem to be forgetting details. It's one of two things:

1. The person got penalized as they should.
2. There's a bug that they choose not to report.

Which is it?

no, i'm saying that even if the party withdrawing gave him one strike, he does not deserve that strike as he was not the one to either hit withdraw or time out. Doesn't matter if he gets two more strikes after that one, that was one strike too many.
11-07-2014, 08:56 AM
winxbloom61

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Originally Posted by Dark_Legacy

It seems like you are doing a lot of "crying" over the penalty system

nop im not bothered by it personaly fact is its a stupid system which kinda destroys the hole point have having a withdraw button now we cant withdraw for legit reasons because of some cry babys

and honsetly it was complete waste of time for them to create a stupid system such as this for little babys who cant deal with the cruleness of how it is online our time is wasted deal with it im perfect fine with some wasted a hour or two of my time by pushing withdraw dosnt phase me a bit

the time it took to create this stupid system they could have easily made us solo dungons or other things so honstely what im rlly complain about is them listen to cry babys who cant deal with the facts of being online which made them waste time to create a stupid system such as this

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