PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

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Originally Posted by MakoRaiju

Making teams of 4s to pvp against other teams of 4s is at NOT what ppl are discussing here, that would have been fine and all that where there is actual competition on winning/losing. ARRANGING wins and loses is what ppl is reacting on, queueing two teams up together for instant queue and just farm each other in turns.

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Exactly this, the queue is designed for 4 people to RANDOMLY ecounter another group of 4. Not to enter as 8 with a predetermined win/lose agenda.

okazaki ur very close to the root of the problem. the 2nd sentence needs to be "being able to arrange any type of 4v4 insta que fight is killing solo que, esp when you get solo que pts for it."

IMO, if queing solo was as fast as win trading. I wouldnt mind if i lost or won. Still get xp

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Originally Posted by Lumidus

IMO, if queing solo was as fast as win trading. I wouldnt mind if i lost or won. Still get xp

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yeah, basically

ppl are jelly of wintraders because they are not getting insta pops /thread

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Originally Posted by Lumidus

IMO, if queing solo was as fast as win trading. I wouldnt mind if i lost or won. Still get xp

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if they put the ques back to how it was 2.1 everything would be fine, i miss they days of getting qued against pve heroes

I came up with a suggestion to work around this, not necessarily combat win trading but to hopefully make a solution to help everyone. It's over in the PvP section. I ask that people please read it and let me know what you think. :) It's an idea I put forward to the Development Team for reconsidering their match making process.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...86#post2112586

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Originally Posted by LeonRegulus

It's astonishing how bold-faced and illogical some of the people in this thread are defending wintrading. Lie to yourselves all you'd like, but the truth is you're only attempting to make it seem like the lousy way you're doing things is the intentional way to level. If SE wanted this, they would have just handed us the gear. Anyone who claims otherwise is just deluding themselves.

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They do just give us the gear. You get points for losing. The same points you use to buy the gear. You could literally go in, get rolled immediately, and just afk until the match is over. You still get points.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

They do just give us the gear. You get points for losing. The same points you use to buy the gear. You could literally go in, get rolled immediately, and just afk until the match is over. You still get points.

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What's sad is if you don't have any PVP gear/abilities or team without any PVP gear/abilities you generally have no option but to go in and get rolled immediately until you have enough to put up a decent fight.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

Again, it only affects PVP if those players who are win trading are doing it to further bolster their pvp gears. Most are not. They are doing it for glamours.

And c'mon, you could also game the system just by going into a random pvp match and losing on purpose. YOU GET POINTS FOR LOSING AND WINNING. That, in fact, takes less effort than finding 7 other people and win trading. So how exactly is someone self entitled? Because you can just as easily give ZERO EFFORT the legit way and still gain rank, gears, etc.

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Can I "Win trade" in Coil 2? I only want the gear for glamor... honest!

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Can I "Win trade" in Coil 2? I only want the gear for glamor... honest!

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lol you keep bringing this Coil example up like it has any relevance. It doesn't. Two completely different animals.