Had a tank with the YTYP mentality the other day. He got mad at the healer for having the gall to be one step in front of him so he freaks out and turns his stance off. I got fed up with that attitude so I opted to tank the dungeon myself. The healer focus healed me as I tanked as a Machinist the rest of the dungeon. anything 50 and below anyone can pretty much tank so we didn't need him.
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05-17-2022, 05:03 AMRenalt
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05-17-2022, 12:21 PMShieara
I got the weirdest tank the other day in Skalla. He would use all his mitigations before pulling, wait for them to wear off, and then pull. No aoe combo on trash and no tank stance.
He had the sprout icon so the dps and I tried to explain the basics of tanking, but either he didn't speak english or wasn't watching chat and we had to kick him after the first boss. I then healed a reaper tank until we finally got a chad warrior at the end. Boosted character, bot, or someone's kid they let play...I dunno but it was an experience I haven't had before. -
05-17-2022, 12:23 PMVeranolthI'm glad I main tank so I don't have to deal with tanks like that. So much worse when it's a sprout that does not read chat or won't listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shieara
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05-17-2022, 05:11 PMmagtuired
Popping in to add some positivity and say the group I had in Matoya's Relic, a dungeon I LOATHE because of how bad my latency makes it (living in a rural helldump ftw) really made the dungeon a fun experience. The healer and tank were new to the roles or the dungeon itself and just incredibly good sports and cracking jokes.
With the 20 year anniversary of XI happening I've been reflecting a lot on my time in early MMOs and lamenting that community feeling and after a crap day at work in my personal worst dungeon I get some of that community spirit and camraderie as we progged through the dungeon to end my day on. Thanks for being great guys. -
05-17-2022, 05:14 PMSoma_FarkreathNice to see something positive! glad you had a good time!Quote:
Originally Posted by magtuired
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05-17-2022, 06:06 PMChie_M
Of course the MCH who did less DPS than anybody else and who I was scraping off the floor at least once per fight won the minion in Stigma Dreamscape. Of course.
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05-17-2022, 06:31 PMFrizzeHonestly, if the healer is on point you can tank any dungeon in the game on a dps class. Source: I have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
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05-17-2022, 07:17 PMRilifaneSource: can confirm, done that. Went well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frizze
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05-17-2022, 10:23 PMSilver-Strider
Had a WAR that died on the 1st pull of Smiletown, thru Whispering Dawn, Sacred Soil, Recitation+Exog and 2 Lustrates.
Mitigation was clearly a foreign concept for them. -
05-17-2022, 11:03 PMTsuchinokoPanda
I'm healing Orbonne Monastery. We're dong Thunder God and I notice my heals aren't reaching one person in the party. It's a sprout hanging out with the wrong alliance. Can't type fast enough on console to tell them to move over while balancing mechanics, so I rescue pull them to our group. They then proceed to run alllllll the way back to the wrong alliance. I didn't pull them over again and let them die.
I understand that alliance raids can be confusing, but if you're surrounded by people that don't share the same names as your party list, you gotta get a clue sometime. -
05-18-2022, 08:51 PMRein_eon_OsborneRNGesus and their terrible sense of humor. I feel you there..Quote:
Originally Posted by Chie_M
Just got out from 4th Aglaia run for this week, trying to win the Maiming Top as a DRG. Of course, of course the only time it drops is when I am paired with another DRG/RPR… and of course I rolled 9 (NINE) vs their 96 when they died at least 3 times every bosses.
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05-20-2022, 11:03 AMCincierta
Sooooo I didn't think this was possible. Neverreap is still a dungeon, and you can roll it in roulette. That I know is possible.
What I thought wasn't possible was to encounter a RDM in there that did melee combo only. Melee. Only.
No Embolden.
No Acceleration.
No casting of any type.
Just melee. Comboed and uncombo'ed, with Contre Sixt and Fleche sprinkled in for good measure.
Needless to say I swapped dance partners REAL FAST and put them on my tank friend.
Kill me. -
05-20-2022, 12:42 PMPaduduI've seen melee only RDMs around! It is SOOO weird, I don't get it lol. There was a PF menace who would do the same exact melee-only RDM and he had a huge attitude, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cincierta
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05-20-2022, 09:04 PMJettinsonDamn the player really wants a Fencer jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Cincierta
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05-21-2022, 02:12 AMHatfright
Dun Scah, first boss, that big aero which you need to hug the ice on.
Boss is on 1% when he casts it. Boss dies, ice disappears, the whole raid just goes flying off the ship.
Chat explodes with laughter. I wish I've been recording, that was so fun to watch. xD -
05-21-2022, 04:13 AMDontReadThis
To the people I was grouped with in the level 87 dungeon last night... I'm sorry.
I had no idea my internet would go down in the middle of the very first pull.
I didn't have internet access until several hours later :( -
05-21-2022, 04:30 AMRobynDaBankAw, what a shame. Sorry to hear, and I feel you on this one. Had power go down twice today, both times when I was leveling DNC in Ktsis. Absolutely scrambled to switch to hotspot.Quote:
Originally Posted by DontReadThis
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05-24-2022, 02:40 AMFrizze
To the group that had the incredibly inconsistent RDM in cutters cry this morning, i am very sorry. I cant speak on if ive mastered the basics of the class or not yet, as ive only recently started using it. But i swear normally i dont fall asleep mid-dungeon. It was the worst type of falling asleep too, as it was like a walking sleep. Id be awake and contributing, then id black out for 30ish seconds, then wake up and catch up to group(convinced that now that i had re-awoken i would be able to finish dungeon), repeat. To their credit, we completed the run with only one death(that i was aware of anyway), and that was the healer dying shortly before the last boss was finished off. Before turning off the game i scrolled back my chat log, just to see. No one said anything. So again to you guys, im sorry. Normally those end of night runs either the que is too long and i fall asleep(or realize how tired i am and log out) before it pops, or the quick one get finished before it can get that bad. Today was unfortunately in the middle.
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05-24-2022, 02:43 AMPaduduI sympathize with this a lot lol. At least you didn't have a hard dungeon or anything, and it went OK with no deaths. I have felt so bad to be in extremes or something when the melatonin kicks in. I just become too drowsy to comprehend anything going onQuote:
Originally Posted by Frizze
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05-25-2022, 02:32 AMRein_eon_Osborne
Another Aglaia spam with certain goal in mind: either win the healers' glove or try my luck Greed'ing for the striking top (because I don't want to bring striking jobs :/). I just had to finish the errand with some story to remember: the 8th run. Everything up till the butt end of 8th attempt was like your regular Alliance Raid.
At Nald'thal's add phase, everybody grouped up accordingly except the MNK from our group who strayed to the B's group. At that point I have a hunch something's going to happen, and it did happened: of all players to get the stack marker, our stray MNK got it. I hit that rescue button to pull them back to our group, but apparently the B's stack marker owner also had the same idea. With both stack markers stacked nicely on top each other, everybody in my group + that poor fella that tried to adjust drop like sack of popotoes. Me? I'm apparently just 1-2y away from getting murdered, but it doesn't matter. Because we wiped with all that many players dead on the wrong side.
Guess what? Of course the game 'rewarded' me for my unintentionally murderous act: I greed'ed the striking top and won it.
Smh RNGesus and their sense of humor... -
05-26-2022, 02:09 AMJettinson
Sigmascape 2 Normal, our healers went down due to the tether mechanic and luckily we had rez classes. After tether there's a stack mechanic and went on me, as a paladin.
So i thought i could juse use hallowed ground and just avoid hurting the rest of the people while at it, everybody understood my decision but the summoner who was too late to back down and just got killed in the process, aah i feel bad for that... -
05-27-2022, 03:17 AMSmollett
Leechers... ugh. One of the most pathetic type of players. Almost as white knights.
Yes, I know it's CT and not an Ultimate, but why should everyone else carry you? Are you so special? Maybe going afk too (ofc I didn't)? At least do us a favor and don't reg as healer or tank. And threaten to report me for calling you? Srsly?
Oh, and dear white knight. Calling afker an afker is not childish. Dying shortly after pulling boss and immediate rezzing at the start point is. -
05-27-2022, 04:00 AMKolsykol
I had a strange week in P1-4S and Smileton that ended in three people getting blacklisted...
First one someone refused to move and wiped us, then immediately started blaming me and got all passive aggressive about it and started playing the victim because I said '' dude '' AFTER having shit thrown at me.
Lots of smiley faces while trying to lecture me, I always hate when someone is being shitty but do it in a way where it on surface level might seem like they're being nice it's scummy as hell.
The fake nicety is like taunting anyone who knows what's going on can see it, people like that are usually extremely manipulative and scummy they're one of the few cases where I just can't get along with that type of person it genuinely disgusts me on a personal level.
Second group went fine but it was only P1-3S.
Then in P4S we had some memes in phase 1 a couple of times but okay then we got to phase 2 finally.
Someone puts down the waymarks and they look off to me but I don't rly say anything, they're different from the ones I have which seems to be the standard and are closer together.
We wipe on Act 2 and yeah someone brings it up that they were wrong as I suspected.
I put up mine which are correct, then after the pull someone changes them to something really bizarre where it's just all waymarks in a circle at the very edge around the whole arena.
Tank gets annoyed and wipes us and basically goes '' wtf is this??? ''.
Then at least me and someone else tries to put the right waymarks down but whoever starts both putting down the weird ones or removing all of them altogether and it becomes a crazy tug of war.
The tug of war goes on for like five minutes at least with people becoming more and more frustrated...
Finally it seem'd like it had ended and we get to pull, but no someone removes them altogether after the pull...
After that I just say that I am not dealing with this anymore, and I put my waymarks down again one last time.
Seem'd like it had stopped and half-way through the countdown AGAIN someone changes to the weird circle ones and I just left it was a complete waste of time and someone was blatantly trolling us.
It rly didn't seem like people could do it without the waymarks either.
So where does the blacklist come in?
I look in PF and the leader is insulting me and calling me slurs in PF for leaving ( which also lead to me reporting them on top of blacklisting ).
The third one was in Smileton, the healer isn't keeping up and seems AFK.
Some dps runs and pulls wall to wall then gets mad at me because I let them die, and starts ranting at me trying to lecture me about what tanking is.
And he tried to make the argument that I wasn't doing my job and that he was because he was dpsing and dpsing is his job lol.
I am leaving a lot out but he was giving me a ton of bad attitude and was trying to make it out to be me who did something wrong for wanting to wait for the healer.
It's extremely rare I blacklist people but I wasn't having it that day. -
05-27-2022, 07:07 AMnebby00
Stone Vigil
So, I'm current leveling yet another alt and just got through the first part of ARR, and now am working on the WHM relic weapon. Just started on the first Atma book today, and it requires Stone Vigil, so I queue for it. Queue in and there's a sprout DRK, a SAM, and a DNC. Barrier goes down and the DRK walks to pull, forgetting to put on stance for a few seconds before putting it on... except I felt that there was something off in the first pull as his health was getting absolutely obliterated by one or two hits, but considering Cure II seemed to be able to keep him up, I didn't think too much about it, though I was getting more and more concerned as we continued through the dungeon as his health really wasn't supposed to be going down so fast in one or two hits, especially when getting to the boss, every hit resulted in about 25% or more of his health just vanishing into the aether which definitely was taxing on my MP trying to keep him up, didn't help either that he kept spinning the boss around occasionally.
When we got to the pull after the first boss, that is when I couldn't keep him up any longer since the DNC got clipped and died, I tried to quickly raise the DNC up but in doing so, DRK crumbles then the SAM and soon I follow suit. Then I check his gear and oh boy... it wasn't good. He was wearing no gloves, his legs were the stuff from Brayflox's Longstop but the melee legs. I ask him if he even has any gloves or better legs and he proceeds to say no, he doesn't but that "It's just Duty Roulette".
...I really hate that excuse of it's "just Duty Roulette", doesn't mean that you don't try and actually not be a complete burden on the three other people with you.
I felt tempted to initiate a votekick, but I wasn't sure if the two DPS would side with me or not, so I just let it go and we had to pull small with me healing him much more than I would have to do if he was properly geared. Once we got to the end, he did thank me at least for putting up with him, and I did leave with a single commendation but I truly was annoyed. The next dungeon I had queued for unfortunately resulted in another DRK that only single pulled which annoyed me a bit more, but at least he was properly geared so it wasn't too much of a big deal. -
05-30-2022, 02:37 PMCubsbane
WHM, Trials Roulette, The Dying Gasp (that's Hades). Both tanks might be new, at least one definitely is. Ok cool. Other than the SCH sometimes using Physick for some reason (they used other abilities too, it was fine), everything goes alright... until the second phase.
Tanks collect vuln stacks like candy and during the part where everyone gets an AOE, they both go down. Easy fix, co-healer and I each raise one. But then they... don't take the boss back.
A DPS becomes the tank for the rest of the fight. Mind you, so long as you're geared his autos do basically nothing, and he doesn't TB you. But I hear a familiar sound coming from one of the tanks, as well. It's... it's Shield Lob??? And I keep hearing it, over and over again.
I ask "tanks are you ok" during the brief intermission where the team is put in gay baby jail (I would have elaborated but I wasn't sure how long I had to type before I had to mash). No response.
I don't even know, dude. At least it was in an easy duty... (And I only have the messy battle log, no uh trained monkeys, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the PLD was also randomly using some abilities uncomboed.) -
05-30-2022, 05:15 PMChie_M
I had a co-DNC in Aglaia using Improvisation on cooldown. For the entire 15s channel.
I... huh. Okay then. -
05-30-2022, 07:39 PMElizanderNorisse
The fact that people keep mistaking me for a woman when I’m a man in both the game and real life lol.
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05-30-2022, 07:51 PMTheMightyMollusk
Leveling white mage, Syrcus Tower in roulette. Had a leech who did nothing but spam dance emotes at the entrance to the boss rooms while giving the old "It's just CT, who cares" routine. On the third boss, I saw them actually running to an ice block for Curtain Call....so I Rescued them out of it. Sure, I ate the floor too, but it was worth it.
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05-30-2022, 07:56 PMCheremiaMan, every story like that really has a whiteknight that accompany it. It's very telling of how people hate being called out for something "wrong".Quote:
Originally Posted by Smollett
It is literally griefing to afk and they can be reported for it, you can't for having eyes and not wanting somebody griefing. Who cares if it's 1 out of 23 people?
It still goes faster if everybody is alive and presses the big damage buttons.
But every time, without fail:
"It's not savage"
"just have fun"
"tryhard"
"toxic raider"
"elitist"
from somebody lmao -
05-30-2022, 08:27 PMCurisu
Last week I quened in the new alliance raid as tank, like always.
The gate opens and I check the other tank's to see if they have stance active and what their gear is.
Group B tank with no stance and decent gear, group A tank is a Marauder.
Some people notice and complain but apparently he has some premades with him, so he will probably not get kicked.
To my question of why he does that he just answers "because it's fun".
At first boss i pull after everyone jumped down and he instantly provoked.
Apparently he wants to have "fun" as Marauder MT, but I don't want to give a selfish burden to the group the satisfaction of doing what he wanted to do, so i take the boss back.
And that went on the whole raid, he provokes and I do it a second after or get the boss naturally back after 1-2 GCDs.
No more words have been spoken and I just MTed the raid as usual with some more uses of provoke as normal.
Sadly you are helpless in a different group and you can't even place a player like this in your blacklist after the run. -
05-30-2022, 11:47 PMAvatreUsually if someone responds with those after someone is called out for AFKing, I start to do bare minimum(most of the time end up just auto attacking, and not dodging....even as healer). If they are okay with one person doing that, what's wrong with another? So what if people start floor tanking...it's not savage, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheremia
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05-31-2022, 12:09 AMIscah
Fifteen minutes to daily reset and I've done levelling roulette for the day. Time to queue again as DPS – there's no way I'm going to finish a dungeon in less than that, right?
Four minutes later I'm in Tam-Tara and ten minutes after that we are done. :/ -
05-31-2022, 12:11 AMJokerz_93First Kill of Hesperos Savage. Day 1...
About two months ago I was progging P4s. I was at CC going to kill and during those days i was struggling to find a party that was good enough to complete the duty.
There were moments I waited 3/5 hours per party before we could fill up and when we were able to find all the players we needed, eventually we ended up disbanding after few memes pulls.
Those days have beed really hard and i was keeping repeating to myself that patience and endurance are the virtues of the strongest.
One evening I found the only party avaible. It was an "ACT4 on going" I was a WAR with nothing else but my despair and hope to figh each other.
Once in there, I asked to my cotank, a DRK.
"I'm going to inv the 1st and 3rd. What do you prefer to do on the 2nd tb?"
"I'll voke during the cast bar of the second" they replied to me.
"Uhm..." I thought.
"Are you not using your inv there so?" I asked to be sure.
"Why?" they said to me "Why should I use an inv when I can take almost no damage if I use all my defensive cd there?"
I was like "maybe cus...pressing one button is better than pressing all" but I dindn't replied back.
I just said "Fair enough. I dont play DRK. If you are fine in this way, so I'm".
We started.
First Pull, first mechanic. All good. No deaths, no weird placements, no weirds adjustments.
Pinax time. Everything was nicely done.
Also, the second tb was handled preatty well.
Indeed, the DRK took almost no damage and I for once didnt have to adjust my MT position on stack/spread.
My eyebrowns strecthed in a motion of surprise and my mind started to elaborate that risky thought "Maybe..."
But it wasn't finished yet.
After orbs and towers that malicious thought came up in my mind "No deaths so far, dps is good, maybe.."
Second Pinax. Unbelivable all went good.
We killed that fucking Vampire at the first try on the first pull within 6 minutes!
I was like "What the fuck? Am I dreaming?"
In all those months I've never seen a party kill Hesperos at the first try, nor at the second or third.
But, the fight wasn't over.
We had to deal with the second phase...and it wasn't good as the first.
Altough it was an ACT4 ongoing it took us 5 hours and three resets to reach that point.
One of the most astonish thing that I recall is that even if it took them a lot to have a good understanding about how ACT2 and ACT3 work, once they learnt how to do them they were able to perform that mechanic perfectly everytime.
Another one was that whenever we had to reset and restart from Phase 1, it was always a one shot. No memes. No deaths.
In those 5 hours of prog I forgot that I originally had joined for an ACT4 ongoing and I was focused only to help them to get over ACT4, because I knew that party had all the qualities to kill Phase 2.
We didnt, at the end. It was late. People was starting to meme basics. Understandable. I left with some bitterness in my heart. I knew I wasn't able to find another party like that.... -
05-31-2022, 12:12 AMJokerz_93First Kill of Hesperos Savage. Day 2...
The day after I started my search again.
After a few hours I found a party of a person who did those amazing 5 hours with me the night before.
I joined as a tank, at least I knew I could trust one person there.
With my surprise I found others of the night before. Almost everyone apart for a dps and a healer.
The last spot empty was a tank.
A bunch of minutes later they came. The same DRK fo the night before.
Party chat turned like we were old friends meeting after years.
I recall when I asked to them how we'd handle the tbs (with months it had turned into something like a rite phrase) they answered me:
"Oi boy, by now you should know how we manage these".
Everyone was on fire.
We knew we could kill it. That day, that party.
So we did.
Three hours later we were in the middle of that arena along that fucking bastard Vampire kneeling on the ground and the fun fact is..i didnt immediatly realize we killed him.
I just saw the screen turning black, me saying "whut...no we were not dead" and my buddy watching the stream replaying to me "You did it, bugger. You have killed that bastard".
And I almost cried when my brain connected everithing.
After months I closed myself in PF finally I was able to find good gamers.
People that dind't complain for other's mistakes.
People that were capable to overcome their weakness, to learn from their mistakes.
People which quality cannot be measured by a number and a color rather by their attitude and endurance; those qualities are above 100.
So far I've met a lot of player's types. From super toxic casual player to the super toxic parsers one but rarely I've met good people. Ofc I'm not saying that there are not good people around just they are a rare thing to find but once you find them you can expect that you are going to have one of the most memoral run in your XIV experience.
...and it was the only party that was able to kill Hesperos before the end of CC.
Never met a kill party that could re attempt such deed, so far.
PF is a coffer full of tresures...with a bad RNG. -
05-31-2022, 12:33 AMSmollettTempting but imo not worth trouble. Not only it's unfair towards other people who just wants to complete the duty, it consumes way much more time, especially if you are healer or tank. Not to mention counter griefing is still griefing and quite reportable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avatre
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05-31-2022, 01:04 AMAvatreIt typically takes 1 fight of me doing that for people who were AFKing to start doing something(and this is always after a failed vote kick) since I only do it when the person is in my party. While it is a dick move, and I admit that, people are either more likely to proceed with the kick if it is initiated against that person again, or the person actually does something. Though, I've not run into someone doing that for quite a while since it usually only happens in the CT raids, and if there is no new player bonus I leave those right away because I am so done with getting those 80%+ of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smollett
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05-31-2022, 01:07 AMRobynDaBank
Nothing exciting apart from the fact that my brain left my body at the first boss of 6.1's new dungeon an hour ago. Was mostly okay otherwise, but goodness I was embarrassed.
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05-31-2022, 06:25 AMEgilTheStressedMage
Rolled a 1 on the Optimus Omicron minion and the winner was a 16. Can't wait to not see it again for another fifty runs hahahahaha....
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05-31-2022, 08:53 AMCincierta
Why is it that the predict-the-aoe rotating platform mechanic for the 83 trial never clicks in my head despite the amount of times I've done normal?
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05-31-2022, 10:12 AMChie_MI couldn't get the hang of it until I was doing EX and the punishment was death / getting kicked from PF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cincierta