The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

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Originally Posted by owopeachy

he looks like hes having fun, it's just this inital hype and he understands that which is why hes not bothered

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It's the best thing he can do, since when trolls see their tactics to keep him out of the game are not working they'd give up and go back to afking in Limsa or RPing.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Here's my question. Doesn't this same thing happen when Yoshi-P comes on with people swarming his location? A celebrity will be a celebrity.

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Swarming a game developer is different than swarming a new player trying to enjoy the game. He's said multiple times that the people are making it difficult and not fun. They're killing his quest npcs and actively following him, making the quest npc not load.

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Originally Posted by iVolke

Swarming a game developer is different than swarming a new player trying to enjoy the game. He's said multiple times that the people are making it difficult and not fun. They're killing his quest npcs and actively following him, making the quest npc not load.

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Out of curiosity, does he play with a mouse/keyboard, and has someone told him the button to hide all the player names to make it easier to click on NPCs?

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Originally Posted by iVolke

Swarming a game developer is different than swarming a new player trying to enjoy the game. He's said multiple times that the people are making it difficult and not fun. They're killing his quest npcs and actively following him, making the quest npc not load.

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Then one must perform the ultimate "removal" tool...send in a report to the GMs about the harassment. You know how fast the GMs respond in this game, and with a stream as proof, you'll see a lot of people scatter if they think they'll get banned over it.

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Originally Posted by owopeachy

l Hes not stressed, he looks like hes having fun, it's just this inital hype and he understands that which is why hes not bothered

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He flat out said in stream that the people are stressing him out but doesn’t think the GMs will help him so he’s just trying his best to ignore it.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Then one must perform the ultimate "removal" tool...send in a report to the GMs about the harassment. You know how fast the GMs respond in this game, and with a stream as proof, you'll see a lot of people scatter if they think they'll get banned over it.

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Which is what he's doing now!
Good.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

I don't watch anyone's stream because I don't have that kind of time. I do watch his highlights. Recently he visited a dead classic WoW server and the server didn't explode. While I am sure there are some of his fans following around, the endgame and event mounts suggest there are other people around trying to disrupt his gameplay too. I hope a GM bans the latter.

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Just what I was saying. I wouldn't be surprised if there are FFXIV players intentionally trying to make his gameplay experience as bad as possible so wants to leaves the game. For that matter, he'd probably have problems whether he streamed or not, once his character name got out there.

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Originally Posted by twixelstix

Which is what he's doing now!
Good.

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So wait you are telling me Asmongold started playing FFXIV AND we might get rid of a bunch of toxic players?

This day is starting to shape up!

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

Out of curiosity, does he play with a mouse/keyboard, and has someone told him the button to hide all the player names to make it easier to click on NPCs?

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I've seen a few people in his chat say it, but I'm kinda half-watching while I run Zadnor. Now his chat is spamming how toxic these people/community is. It's kinda ironic, since ffxiv players go on about how toxic they are.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

I think I can explain what is going on here with this incredibly scientific diagram:

https://i.imgur.com/YE9w4nS.png

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Hahaha, this is perfection.

The XIV community screams in anxiety as it's toxic to you.

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Originally Posted by iVolke

I've seen a few people in his chat say it, but I'm kinda half-watching while I run Zadnor. Now his chat is spamming how toxic these people/community is. It's kinda ironic, since ffxiv players go on about how toxic they are.

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The question here becomes...who is who? Like, how many of the griefers are doing it because he badmouthed FFXIV so much, how many are WoW players with secret FFXIV accounts trying to start crap, how many are there because they're just fans of him, etc? It's going to be hard to lay the blame on a single source here.

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Originally Posted by Niadissa

Not gonna lie, following him around with so many mounts he can't see around himself, and sniping quest mobs, is probably one of the more toxic things I've seen from the FFXIV community.

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Are they doing it because they're part of the FFXIV community, or are they doing it because they are part of the Asmongold community?

That sort of thing is what the Asmongold community does all the time in WoW. That why so many players have been expressing reservations about his decision to come to FFXIV if he was going to come to stream it.

Asmongold invited them to follow him here. He's not dumb. He knew what the outcome would be. He invited it because it would increase views and that increases the money he earns from his stream. He can feed his head cannon about how terrible FFXIV is this way when it's not FFXIV at fault.

It's his own stream and the community he nurtured at fault.

It's hilarious how many people fail to see the bigger picture. We are currently in content drought for the next 4 months, and subs had already plummeted. Asmongold coming to the game and bringing a lot of new players is the best thing that could happen right now. Maybe that sudden additional sub money income will allow SE to let male bunny boys use hats. Limsa RPers should actually be helping him out by logging out instead of staying logged in AFKing.

One good thing happened today. He tried to start on my server but it wasn't accepting new characters.

Prevented the mess that Cactuar is dealing with now.

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Originally Posted by FrogDog

The XIV community screams in anxiety as it's toxic to you.

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Is this a modification of the political saying...

[political group] wails in pain as the bludgeon you to death.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Limsa RPers should actually be helping him out by logging out instead of staying logged in AFKing.

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Or they could go to a server where RPers actually are. While they're at it they could go to Ul'dah too, you know, where the RPers actually hang out.

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Originally Posted by twixelstix

Or they could go to a server where RPers actually are. While they're at it they could go to Ul'dah too, you know, where the RPers actually hang out.

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I mean, RPers roleplay where they want. Limsa does have RP, just to a lesser extent than what Ul'dah is known for.

Just glad it's not on my server...

All of ya'll being kill stealing griefers and making it harder for him to kill quest mobs, if you are on the forum: stop it! It makes our community look crap when you do that.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

It's hilarious how many people fail to see the bigger picture. We are currently in content drought for the next 4 months, and subs had already plummeted. Asmongold coming to the game and bringing a lot of new players is the best thing that could happen right now. Maybe that sudden additional sub money income will allow SE to let male bunny boys use hats. Limsa RPers should actually be helping him out by logging out instead of staying logged in AFKing.

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I've been suspecting this for a while now...but you're one of his diehard fans, aren't you? I've been seeing a lot of commentary from you that comes across as white knighting (not to say it is) and you seem to take his side on everything. If you are one of his fans...then please encourage him to make another character without streaming or letting anybody know the name/server/data center. It's going to be better for him in the long run (both for his mental state and his ability to play) if he has a hidden character since he can experience the game without a constant influx of people hovering around him or messing with him.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

All of ya'll being kill stealing griefers and making it harder for him to kill quest mobs, if you are on the forum: stop it! It makes our community look crap when you do that.

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While I get what you are trying to do, I am about 99% sure none of the people who would read this is a part of that.

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Originally Posted by FrogDog

The XIV community screams in anxiety as it's toxic to you.

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Nice one. :D

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

All of ya'll being kill stealing griefers and making it harder for him to kill quest mobs, if you are on the forum: stop it! It makes our community look crap when you do that.

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Half of us arent even on the same DC -- the other half cant even log in.

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Originally Posted by Dalvy

Just glad it's not on my server...

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Me too! I am so glad he stayed away from Crystal DC :)

Since he submitted a ticket, we'll hopefully see a GM clamp down soon on the people legitimately harassing him.

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Originally Posted by twixelstix

Since he submitted a ticket, we'll hopefully see a GM clamp down soon on the people legitimately harassing him.

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We'll know very soon when the GM responds just how many of them are his followers ingame are also in his stream chat...you'll see the complaints most likely.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I've been suspecting this for a while now...but you're one of his diehard fans, aren't you? I've been seeing a lot of commentary from you that comes across as white knighting (not to say it is) and you seem to take his side on everything. If you are one of his fans...then please encourage him to make another character without streaming or letting anybody know the name/server/data center. It's going to be better for him in the long run (both for his mental state and his ability to play) if he has a hidden character since he can experience the game without a constant influx of people hovering around him or messing with him.

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Who am I is neither here nor there. The facts are he is now a FFXIV player and people are griefing him ingame and defamating him in forums, so GMs better step up and start enforcing the community rules.

Him making a new secret character is a pointless since when he starts streaming raids his name will be visible and the toxic harrasment will resume.

This got to the point the Aether Hunt Train server has to warn about it, Cactuar Limsa was on a sort of permanent lock down, world hop queue was very big etc. I really want him to enjoy but he should have started the character off stream, got himself aquatinted with how it works, then finally start when ready. Kinda disappointed at players harassing him too.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Who am I is neither here nor there. The facts are he is now a FFXIV player and people are griefing him ingame and defamating him in forums, so GMs better step up and start enforcing the community rules.

Him making a new secret character is a pointless since when he starts streaming raids his name will be visible and the toxic harrasment will resume.

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The point was to have a solid starting point. Obviously he's going to stream himself raiding, but he still needs to *get* to the raids. Whether he starts with BCoB or waits until Ultimates (and their unlocks) or Eden, he has to get there, and it's easier if he doesn't have a swarm of people following him.

Though I *kinda* want to see him unlocking the Ivalice Raids with people joining him. Red Chocobos were a blast and I want to see it again.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

Oh god, that on patch day was *pain*. So-many-corpses. Resurrection went brrrr that day lol

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Unlocking it on alts just isn't the same...

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

The point was to have a solid starting point. Obviously he's going to stream himself raiding, but he still needs to *get* to the raids. Whether he starts with BCoB or waits until Ultimates (and their unlocks) or Eden, he has to get there, and it's easier if he doesn't have a swarm of people following him.

Though I *kinda* want to see him unlocking the Ivalice Raids with people joining him. Red Chocobos were a blast and I want to see it again.

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Oh god, that on patch day was *pain*. So-many-corpses. Resurrection went brrrr that day lol

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

The point was to have a solid starting point. Obviously he's going to stream himself raiding, but he still needs to *get* to the raids. Whether he starts with BCoB or waits until Ultimates (and their unlocks) or Eden, he has to get there, and it's easier if he doesn't have a swarm of people following him.

Though I *kinda* want to see him unlocking the Ivalice Raids with people joining him. Red Chocobos were a blast and I want to see it again.

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Exactly. And I agree about the Red Chocobos. Once again I can chant in chat (like at release), "No mercy for the damned! Thus thou hast no escape from the grasp of catastrophe! METEOR SWARM!"

The release of Endwalker is going to be a mess if SE doesn't do some serious upgrades.

Also, somehow people is surprised of toxicity? And in the passive-agressive Cactuar server? Well, actually it would be the same most likely everywhere.

I feel bad for him honestly the commnunity doing this while he's actually trying to learn and enjoy FFXIV is just horrible.

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Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau

Well, actually it would be the same most likely everywhere.

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I would have loved if he joined on my Data Centre and wouldn't have minded not being able to play for 1 day if in the long run it means more people able to run Savage and Ultimate-level content.

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Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau

The release of Endwalker is going to be a mess if SE doesn't do some serious upgrades.

Also, somehow people is surprised of toxicity? And in the passive-agressive Cactuar server? Well, actually it would be the same most likely everywhere.

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Disappointed but not suprised is my feeling towards that.

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Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau

The release of Endwalker is going to be a mess if SE doesn't do some serious upgrades.

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If he can get into an instance fight, it's better than Stormblood release.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

If he can get into an instance fight, it's better than Stormblood release.

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Raubahn EX and Pipin Savage were the true endgame!

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

If he can get into an instance fight, it's better than Stormblood release.

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Yeah, exactly why im saying it. Imagine if this were him at game release.

A Raubahn EX again would be untolerable.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Him making a new secret character is a pointless since when he starts streaming raids his name will be visible and the toxic harrasment will resume.

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How does one grief a player in a raid instance unless you're in the same party/Alliance? No one can send him tells, spam him with friend requests, etc. when he is in an instanced duty.

His name doesn't have to be visible at all. initials are an option. World can be hidden via Character Customization HUD options.

There are so many ways to avoid what's happening right now. He was actually warned by other content creators on how to avoid this mess. He chose not to listen.

He's not stupid, he knows how his community behaves. He encourages it because he makes money from it. He's got no one to blame but himself.

If the GMs take any action, it's going to be because of other normal players having their game experience disrupted by the presence of his stream. Asmongold is far more likely to get tossed into the gaol for deliberately provoking the situation. That might be a good thing. Let his character sit in the gaol a couple of days while his viewers get bored and drift away to do other things. Then he can get smart, stop streaming, make a new character and enjoy the game.

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Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau

The release of Endwalker is going to be a mess if SE doesn't do some serious upgrades.

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Won't be any more of a mess than Shadowbringers launch was. They'll have the zones expected to be congested instanced again. Even East Shroud had been instanced for Shadowbringers launch because they knew a lot of players would be unlocking GNB.