One to Fifty, One Zone - Long OP

Hi, Kiara! I noticed your post referenced here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post184686

(Edit: Whoops, posted at the same time as Reinheart!)

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Originally Posted by Kiara

Hi Reinhart,

Thank you! Totally understand. If you get to my post, that's great, if not, you've already helped all of us GREATLY with your translation of the OP to the JP side. Hopefully we get more visibility now. :) RL definitely comes first. ;)

Thanks!

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Hi Kiara,

I added yours in :) yours shows up on the next page of translation from the one I linked its 5AM in Japan so probably slow response right now on there. I posted the comment translations like 2AM PST (Cali here) so we should see more JP People I think. Already got 100+ likes on the JP one and I think everyone putting like on this original post as well.

EDIT: First I had the whole thing and when I pressed save, post it had 10,000 letter limit to single post. Didn't know that so had to put it on 2nd, and cut it a little but noted there are more examples on your original post to check it out :)

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Hi Kiara,

I added yours in :) yours shows up on the next page of translation from the one I linked its 5AM in Japan so probably slow response right now on there. I posted the comment translations like 2AM PST (Cali here) so we should see more JP People I think. Already got 100+ likes on the JP one and I think everyone putting like on this original post as well.

EDIT: First I had the whole thing and when I pressed save, post it had 10,000 letter limit to single post. Didn't know that so had to put it on 2nd, and cut it a little but noted there are more examples on your original post to check it out :)

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Hi Reinhart,

Just saw it. :) Thank you! :) With everyone's collective efforts hopefully we've given them some good ideas on how to improve the maps.

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Originally Posted by Siobu

And we would gather our companions and start again, just like that morning in Sarutabaruta.

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This actually made me cry a bit. lol ;v;

You guys think if they did in fact do something to improve this, would it be pre or post PS3 launch? (we already know battle system and UI are current priorities) I'd say if it's not fixed by PS3 launch it may not change. just imo.

This thread has 13 less "Likes" than the last letter from the producer as of right now. If we surpass it and still receive the silent treatment, I will be baffled.

I also find it very entertaining that this thread is somewhat derailing others just by not getting a response.

Late +1. I really hope this thread helps make the game better. =) I read a lot of it and the milestones missing in this game is a hole in our hearts I think we all want filled.

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Originally Posted by AtryxEtair

This thread has 13 less "Likes" than the last letter from the producer as of right now. If we surpass it and still receive the silent treatment, I will be baffled.

I also find it very entertaining that this thread is somewhat derailing others just by not getting a response.

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13 we should be able to reach it probably over the weekend :) jumped like 100+ last few days i think

Can't see any reason I would dissagree with this. I would love to see it being brought up in every thread though, I'm sure SE and the community reps are well aware of this thread and want to adress it properly before stepping on the toes of everyone who supports the idea.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

13 we should be able to reach it probably over the weekend :) jumped like 100+ last few days i think

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Then we will be more popular than Naoki Yoshida himself!! And then Square-Enix will have to make us the Producer & Director of FFXIV!!!

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Originally Posted by Sorel

Then we will be more popular than Naoki Yoshida himself!! And then Square-Enix will have to make us the Producer & Director of FFXIV!!!

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Haha, maybe not as far as that goes, but we can at least say that to anyone who comes into this game in the future would have us to thank for influencing this idea to the devs and getting the job done.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Haha, maybe not as far as that goes, but we can at least say that to anyone who comes into this game in the future would have us to thank for influencing this idea to the devs and getting the job done.

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Yeah, but it would kind of suck for the people who already have most of their classes at R50. Still, it's definitely something the games NEEDS.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Yeah, but it would kind of suck for the people who already have most of their classes at R50. Still, it's definitely something the games NEEDS.

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Ah but thats not to say we will be getting entirely new classes to rank up. At one point we will be able to experience everything.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Ah but thats not to say we will be getting entirely new classes to rank up. At one point we will be able to experience everything.

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The thing i just read, at least with the advanced classes is that each one we have now will only get a singular advancement and that it will be the same rank as w/e the choose class is so ex: 50GLD= 50 PLD with no leveling required. It almost makes me feel like they will just be the same class with a few extra specific skills and title over one with different set of stats and skills (mixing new with GLD ones, but more restricted on the mixing of others)

If it ends up being GLD, with the same stats, same skills, but with a couple new ones and less mixing....il be severly disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

The thing i just read, at least with the advanced classes is that each one we have now will only get a singular advancement and that it will be the same rank as w/e the choose class is so ex: 50GLD= 50 PLD with no leveling required. It almost makes me feel like they will just be the same class with a few extra specific skills and title over one with different set of stats and skills (mixing new with GLD ones, but more restricted on the mixing of others)

If it ends up being GLD, with the same stats, same skills, but with a couple new ones and less mixing....il be severly disappointed.

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Yeah but with SEs track record on XIV, what more can you really expect?

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

If it ends up being GLD, with the same stats, same skills, but with a couple new ones and less mixing....il be severly disappointed.

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This is exactly what it will be. They never said it was going to be anything else. A real shame, in my opinion. So much more could have been done with jobs. But hey, it is what it is and we really won't know how it will turn out until we try it. It could be really great.

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Yeah, but it would kind of suck for the people who already have most of their classes at R50. Still, it's definitely something the games NEEDS.

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I've long been in favor of a total server reset once the PS3 version is out and payment starts up.

Face it, the game is totally broken right now with the RMT and bots running rampant and exploiting the crap out of it. The class/job changes will anger some who expected to be leveling one job but instead get stuck with one they didn't want, the upcoming class restrictions on gear will load down some players with useless items, and the elimination of physical levels will likely result in further tweaks to gear already in possession of players.

Some people are going to be outraged no matter what, so why not give them the medicine all at once? A reset needs to be done just to free this game from the baggage of its former design.

However, to compensate, all the current players should be given a prestige item that would give the equivalent of ~50 lvls (or more) of exp to divide between classes however they choose and some elite gear/weapons or Gil rewards to choose from (think FFXI mog lotto)

As we have all been playing the game for free, I feel it is a fair trade-off that would give players and especially the economy a fresh start in the new world.

But sadly, most people will be highly opposed it this and considering Yoshi's comments, there is a slim-to-none chance that this will ever happen..:(

Still...

I believe Nuru was referring to Classes (basic weapons) in particular, not the advanced jobs. :) Though I really do understand everyone's worries and agree. Still, at least with that, there'd be opportunity to properly explore the new lands for those who have all current Classes capped.

With this in mind as well, we definitely shouldn't try to refuse new players or lower ranked players the opportunity to experience a true adventure from 1 to 50. I feel that no matter how SE decides to handle the battle classes, I hope it would not influence a decision to leave the map the way it is simply because a lot of players are capped. There still needs to be a future for Eorzea. And there still needs to be a proper, working formula for map design beyond 50. :)

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

I've long been in favor of a total server reset once the PS3 version is out and payment starts up.

Face it, the game is totally broken right now with the RMT and bots running rampant and exploiting the crap out of it. The class/job changes will anger some who expected to be leveling one job but instead get stuck with one they didn't want, the upcoming class restrictions on gear will load down some players with useless items, and the elimination of physical levels will likely result in further tweaks to gear already in possession of players.

Some people are going to be outraged no matter what, so why give them the medicine all at once? A reset needs to be done just to free this game from the baggage of its former design.

However, to compensate, all the current players should be given a prestige item that would give the equivalent of ~50 lvls (or more) of exp to divide between classes however they choose and some elite gear/weapons or Gil rewards to choose from (think FFXI mog lotto)

As we have all been playing the game for free, I feel it is a fair trade-off that would give players and especially the economy a fresh start in the new world.

But sadly, most people will be highly opposed it this and considering Yoshi's comments, there is a slim-to-none chance that this will ever happen..:(

Still...

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You know, I'm actually fairly opposed to a data wipe but if it's something like this I probably wouldn't really mind as much...

This is really not a bad idea.

(Note : IF se implemented it in that way, which knowing them they would royally eff up)

FUN FACT: Letter from the Producer XI = 432 Likes. Thread: One to Fifty, One Zone - Long OP = 435.

BOOYA!!!

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

You know, I'm actually fairly opposed to a data wipe but if it's something like this I probably wouldn't really mind as much...

This is really not a bad idea.

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I am in favor of radical change. Whatever it takes to get this game right. I don't care if that means scrapping the whole world, completely reworking the armory system, even if it meant a data wipe and rebuilding the game on a new engine. I'm afraid that SE is doing too many bandaid fixes when the dead tissue needs to be cut away.

I don't care what it takes, SE. Get it done, and do it right.

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Originally Posted by AtryxEtair

FUN FACT: Letter from the Producer XI = 432 Likes. Thread: One to Fifty, One Zone - Long OP = 435. BOOYA!!!

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I'll find us a sponsor for a parade.

Tomorrow's Friday; hoping for us to be crowned here before the weekend. :)

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

I don't care what it takes, SE. Get it done, and do it right.

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Anything you say... Square! Pizza Hut Collaboration TIME!!..

Pizza Hut Supports the Rebellion!

It surpassed it and still going, nice

The Japanese thread is also becoming very popular.

Cheers to Reinheart for the excellent translation work! :)

Great to hear!

So far the stats per thread are :

English : 452 likes
German : 73 likes
French : 101 likes
Japanese : 170 likes

Meaning that in 9 days, 796 people agreed that this is a problem.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

So far the stats per thread are :

English : 452 likes
German : 73 likes
French : 101 likes
Japanese : 170 likes

Meaning that in 9 days, 796 people agreed that this is a problem.

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This is awesome progress.......I hope we can get an answer tomorrow as I've been following this thread for the last week.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

So far the stats per thread are :

English : 452 likes
German : 73 likes
French : 101 likes
Japanese : 170 likes

Meaning that in 9 days, 796 people agreed that this is a problem.

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not to nitpick I assume a large majority of the English forum votes could be from people on those threads linking back to the original and pressing "Like" on both. The numbers would make a bit more sense that way at ~120ish likes per forum group. Not saying that getting over 100 likes isn't amazing because few threads get even near that.

I leave for a few days, kill Uber Diablo, and come back to a whopping 15 extra pages? and no crown! I understand this is a tough thing to address, and I'm sure they're discussing how to actually respond to this.


Thanks again everyone and Siobu, and be sure to read the first 30 or so pages, a lot of good ideas and information we dont want to be lost under the mountains of support we are getting :)

Response by dev in jp forum.. but need translation soon :D
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...144#post186144

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Originally Posted by Munba

Response by dev in jp forum.. but need translation soon :D
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...144#post186144

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Oh my! Nice find, Munba! ...Google translate does Japanese no justice.

I think we'll have official translation later today :)

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Originally Posted by Munba

I think we'll have official translation later today :)

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working on this now. gimme some time.

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Originally Posted by Richard

working on this now. gimme some time.

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thanks a lot =)

Nice one. Translation looks to me like they have plans to change it all drastically, but it's going to take a LONG time. There are many factors involved, mob placement etc.

My Japanese is crap though so can't wait to see the official post from western com reps

oh wow they replied. i just woke up getting ready for work i can help once i get to office.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

oh wow they replied. i just woke up getting ready for work i can help once i get to office.

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much appriciated Reinheart all my usual fluents are asleep and I've been txting/calling around all morning XD

Google translation is laughable:

Everyone, good evening.

Previously, producers in a different thread than Yoshida, has submitted the following comments.

Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida
Yoshida is a producer / director.

Everyone, Thank you for your complaint MAP.
Yoshida is also similar to the MAP specification, everyone has a strong sense of crisis,
There are a huge amount of work, we are firm plans for the redesign.
However, as pointed out You're already, in order to fix the root,
They would have gotten your time.

Therefore, the current MAP collision mitigation (mitigation of catching / step) is followed by steady,
Parallel measures that are promoted by long-term plan to repair the root.
This is the answer to the fundamental design and specification of the entire map, you believe in it, please also contained a single-level design in the area.


(Sorry a little longer the introduction.)
You will be sharing on this premise, we will tell you that you have to talk to producers about the map again today Yoshida.

First, about the overall direction is the improvement of working diligently and have no change.

Subsequently, this thread is also a spirit of "monsters that inhabit the area of ​​a single broad level" is about the situation.
Also need to review are as before, and I feel stronger than ever, or, when the renovation "a theme that Motaseru properly for each area" has a strong policy of the.

As some of the comments earlier, but it would take for a considerable time even by issuing the information since it is an enormous amount of work, I would like somehow understand.When something new has been seen, we will announce the information properly.Was said.

(And Sorry Yoshi for posting a bad translation - I know you asked us not to! I just thought I'd show everyone how horrible bad translations can be - google trans is shocking for Japanese ((good for french though))

Looks like -> "Thanks for your ideas. We're looking into it." - Yoshi