Endwalker is the most controversial expansion

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Endwalker has all but exhausted my patience for "grey areas" when it comes to antagonists to the point where I long for the return of a straight up bad guy instead of the game trying to coax me into sympathizing with or understanding people like Hermes.

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Well I expect our next villain will be a grey area too...

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

I... Well he didn't mean to... I got nothing. We need more villains like him. He got a whole dungeon for crying out loud. We need more Zenos and less ilberd. I'm a believer now, lol.

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He got 2 dungeons infact. He really did stir some shit up.

IMO It was Shadowbringers for job design, Stormblood for MSQ, Heavensward for content drama.

Each expansion usually winds up having a strong point and they wind up shoring up the weaker points by the end of an expansion, like how Stormblood DLC is some of the best plotting in the game (then hit reset, and here we are in the x.0 - x.1 void)

Endwalker has four patches to go and I'm not casual enough to rate an entire expansion off of x.0 MSQ. The next patch looks like two patches by Shadowbringers standards. Dear god, please let it be great.

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Originally Posted by Necrotica

STORY-Take a great story. Now remove all reason and accountability.

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LOLOLOLOL, nice reference!

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Originally Posted by Burmecia

I would have preferred Power of Love myself.

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Hmmm, that's a curious thing. I hear it makes one end weep and another end sing...

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Originally Posted by OhNooo

To be fair you have to have very high IQ to understand Endwalker...

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Mine had to be 80. Please look at my character's initials and thank you for giving me the opportunity to use them for a bad play on words after all this time. <3

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Originally Posted by Elesh

The disagreements about whether x part was good or y part was logical of a group of people deserved b or c group of people did d right.... those are the sign of a well handled story with characters people care about.

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Well handled story is when the protagonists are complete hypocrites.

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Originally Posted by Mapleine

Endwalker has four patches to go and I'm not casual enough to rate an entire expansion off of x.0 MSQ. The next patch looks like two patches by Shadowbringers standards. Dear god, please let it be great.

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If you're talking about MSQ specifically, then it is over and done. EW 6.0 was the end of the arc as has been stated by Yoshida and won't continue the story in the follow-up patches as it has been done previously.

6.1 and onward is meant to be the start of an absolutely new narrative so judging the entire EP as a completely finished story is totally valid.

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Originally Posted by anhaato

Well handled story is when the protagonists are complete hypocrites.

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Well handled story is also when players ask the devs for clarification of parts of the story on a live stream.

Like every other game, the forums are the extent of the gripes.

And the minority.

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Originally Posted by DBriggs304

Like every other game, the forums are the extent of the gripes.

And the minority.

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Yknow I still haven't received an answer as to why it's so important to people like you that our complaints are invalidated or stifled. Instead I just see more MINORITY UGUGHUHGGU UR THE MINORITY screeching in here.

It is only natural that it would be the most controversial. You're dealing with a much larger player-base with more eyes on the game, so it is normal that it would be subject to more scrutiny, or just be a general point of contention.

There's just as many people that would call proposed, or even player-curated directions for the game nonsense as to what there are players that find the current game direction as nonsense.