FFXIV 6.0 comes out December 7th. Pre-release is December 3rd

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

And you can vent without making it personal and going after the devs.
It's called being an adult and having empathy.

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So SE use the devs to create a PR machine. They place them all front and centre and use that good will to buy them some wiggle room for problems. What do you think would happen? Most people are using generic dev or team. If anyone uses someones name or personal information that is over the line and I am sure both sides would not stand for that.

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Originally Posted by thegreatonemal

You don't have to vent on a public forum, out loud to yourself while watching the live letter would suffice. If you have a problem with people telling you to stop, then oh well so sad too bad. We can do that to you if you take issue with that then, again don't post on an open forum.

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Its a public forum open for discussion. You don't have to read the posts either. If you have a problem with what you are reading, then oh well so sad too bad.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

The only kind of “blame” or “fault” I’ve really seen in this thread is mostly what you voiced: people just wish the development team had given a better heads up about this. But I don’t recall seeing anyone attacking the development team personally in here. I’ve read the entire thread thus far, but maybe I missed some posts in the midst of replying.

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Honestly. I wouldn't be surprised if people are already emailing them. Outside of the forums. They do exist. They do post on twitter. It's alright to be upset your plans get ruined. But SE knew about it a week ago. Thats 3 weeks at best. IDK if people would've been able to get their PTO changed.. its unfortunate but its life. Plus they were probably also trying to see if they needed to delay it before announcing.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Again, I'm not a game developing company nor do I work on one, in this case I am a consumer, those were just examples I tossed up.

But any international company, no matter the business sector, should know how to manage their resources and manpower to meet a deadline, or at least know with ample anticipation if they will not be making it to give a heads up to their customers.



Haven't seen this. Granted the thread is now at 20 pages so I might have missed it, but if anyone is blaming the devs then it's the minority and should not be taken into account as the voice of the complaints.

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Lots of people make the mistake of making an assumption about a company of industry as a whole based on only the things they've seen, and the same is true when you compare companies within the same industry, or try to apply the perspective of one industry to another one that's pretty similar

Delays happen, you don't know why they're happening, they can give you a reason that it's happening that's dumbed down in a way that you can understand, but it doesn't mean that you'll understand all the nuances unless you're either in said company dealing with the issue or in the same industry dealing with a very similar issue.

They have to delay it a couple weeks, that's fine, give them the time they need to fix their issues because they sure as heck don't enjoy telling you that the release date that's been anticipated for months is actually not a viable day for them and now everyone has to change their plans on short notice

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

And you can vent without making it personal and going after the devs.
It's called being an adult and having empathy.

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A serious question, who do I go "Blame" when you know there is a delay in the release date of a game and you don't let your players know until a week after it was made official, and that is if we are to take everything said as the truth. Yet still market to them, that same week, in the Mogstation that time is short and the release isn't delayed and we are offering 50% off of Adventure Jump Sale to get you game ready for Endwalker? I'm like 90% sure I wouldn't have purchased the two job jump, if I had know I had two extra weeks before the new expansion. How do you become empathic to something so insidious. Makes me feel like I'm playing WOW or better yet MTGO.

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Originally Posted by Anonicat

Stop taking PTO for Video Games. It really sickens me to hear or see Yoshi-P and the dev crew cry. People in this game, are imo toxic for them as developers.. Idolize developers as some sort of God. Stop it. They are human beings. Software Development especially for MMO's is more than likely 10x harder than any job that anyone here in this thread is working.

They are human beings. Stop being upset that they didn't release on the 19th/23rd. It sucks that it might screw up your plans. BUTS THATS ON YOU. Not them. Take a step back and put yourself in their shoes for once. Guaranteed you would see things very differently.

People should know by now. Especially during/after Covid. With layoffs, Delays should be expected.

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Oh piss off. I work in Healthcare on this planet in this time period. I'm not going to feel sorry for game developers not delivering on their promises. Is it the end of the world my vacation is ruined? No. But I needed to get away. Now instead of feeling like I'm getting away when the game launches, it'll feel more like I'm working there. I know, boohoo. Don't tell me I don't get to be pissed about it though.

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Originally Posted by Anonicat

Honestly. I wouldn't be surprised if people are already emailing them. Outside of the forums. They do exist. They do post on twitter. It's alright to be upset your plans get ruined. But SE knew about it a week ago. Thats 3 weeks at best. IDK if people would've been able to get their PTO changed.. its unfortunate but its life. Plus they were probably also trying to see if they needed to delay it before announcing.

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My post was talking about on the forums. Not the other platforms.

And maybe they would have been. Maybe they wouldn’t have been. Three weeks is a lot easier for departments to work with than two. At least in all the jobs I’ve had in the past, it usually is. Personally, the server instability issues have been present for weeks now—so on that point, I fail to see how they could have only decided this would be a problem last Friday. I know that’s not all of why they chose to delay—but lore touch-ups and nitpicks are also time management issues. Hopefully, going forward, they can figure out more efficient ways to manage that time and when to schedule QA testing. And this isn’t a dig at them—it’s meant to be constructive. Not an attack, before anyone starts coming at me with that.

Although i do think it is good to learn from previous failures and delay if you need to delay, can’t lie… I’m big irritated by it. I’m a nurse, and we are always short staffed, so it’s not like i can just switch the days. Need at least two months in advance to get any time off. I took off because working 12 hour overnight shifts doesn’t really allow you to play on days you have to work. And to add salt to the wound, i return to work dec2, and work the next six days. I want the launch to be a success, but man I’m irked :(

Well, it's probably too close to change my week vacation now, hopefully I'll be able to take the 2nd (I work overnights) off so I can have December 3-5th and just play hard during the weekend.

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Originally Posted by Anonicat

Honestly. I wouldn't be surprised if people are already emailing them. Outside of the forums. They do exist. They do post on twitter. It's alright to be upset your plans get ruined. But SE knew about it a week ago. Thats 3 weeks at best. IDK if people would've been able to get their PTO changed.. its unfortunate but its life. Plus they were probably also trying to see if they needed to delay it before announcing.

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They could of taken every team member and work on it instead of developing the dumb seasonal events that are a repeat every year. At least it could be done. Makes you wonder what was being done