New Relic weapon quest - are we down to 1 hour content already?

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Originally Posted by Granyala

I am not so addicted that I want to gobble down everything they throw at me, thanks.
I take short content that is FUN over grinds that I loathe ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!

Tons of other games out there to spend ones free time with, I don't need to be "forced / coerced" to log in every day to think I get my 12€'s worth of entertainment.

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I don't see the point of paying a sub fee if I'm not playing the game I'm subbed to.

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Originally Posted by Sesera

I don't see the point of paying a sub fee if I'm not playing the game I'm subbed to.

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He said he was capping tomes per week and doing the usual lockouts. So he is actively playing the game already.

He just wants sth. he HATES in order to have "more to do"... which is completely nonsensical in my book.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

I am not so addicted that I want to gobble down everything they throw at me, thanks.
I take short content that is FUN over grinds that I loathe ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!

Tons of other games out there to spend ones free time with, I don't need to be "forced / coerced" to log in every day to think I get my 12€'s worth of entertainment.

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I prefer hateful but active engagement over apathy and a lack of busywork in a subscription based MMO. Of course I would prefer neither if possible.

Short bursts of fun I can have in other games. Long term rewarding grinds, combined with a social platform not so much.

(also just to clarify, I specifically mentioned Anemos and Pagos, because I almost kinda liked Pyros and Hydatos)

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Originally Posted by Granyala

He said he was capping tomes per week and doing the usual lockouts. So he is actively playing the game already.

He just wants sth. he HATES in order to have "more to do"... which is completely nonsensical in my book.

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Please don't put words in my mouth. I would prefer something fun to do more of, BUT I would take something I hate over the current state of affairs if it engages me in some way.

As for the actively part? Its like one to two hours a day. Definitions may vary, but to me that's pretty undewhelming for an MMO.

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Originally Posted by Kanitezz

This actually makes me want to laugh out loud. I enjoyed the actual story aspect of this first step. Like REALLY enjoyed. Running through that instance, the battle, the cutscenes (Some more than others), and I am very satisfied. But I should've expected to see a lot of people on the forums not liking it, actually severely hating it. But its just proof that people on both ends of the spectrum do exist.

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Doesn't seem like anyone hates the Solo Duty, everyone dislikes fact it's so short & just hands you Relics for so little effort comparative to past relics initial steps we're so use to these being lengthy grinds that everyone is maybe a lil taking back by this one.

On the Solo Duty though it was great & seeing Bozja looking like a fairly modernish style massive city only further leads me to think Garlemald proper will look literally like another Midgar.

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Originally Posted by purgatori

Why is this game, unlike games such as ESO and BDO, so averse to a casual grind that subscribers can chip away at over the course of an expansion cycle?

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We did get shared fates. Many of the people who claim to prefer Eureka still haven't finished those even though they offer similar rewards and gameplay as Anemos.

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Originally Posted by Lersayil

I prefer hateful but active engagement over apathy and a lack of busywork in a subscription based MMO.
As for the actively part? Its like one to two hours a day. Definitions may vary, but to me that's pretty undewhelming for an MMO.

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Yeah. Hence why I used the term "addiction".

1.5hrs per day on average = 45hrs per month.
I'd say even w/o "hateful engagement", that's more than your money's worth considering the amount of content and the price of single player games.

This thread right here. Perfect example of why most forums suck. I just finished the relic quest and kept thinking how good it was and how the devs continue to deliver quality content.

It took me about five hours or so to finish everything because I never did the Ivalice raids. So I did the entire series in one sitting.

For me this was a great night. Went and knocked out Ivalice which I would normally not do. Then did a truly engaging solo duty to get the relic weapon. And since I literally went from Orbonne Monastery directly to the relic quest, it felt like one big story.

So for all my effort I got relic weapons for the three jobs I have at 80. It was awesome and felt very rewarding for the long night of gaming. And you know what? The queues for the raids were about five minutes, if that, for a DPS, so lots of people were doing them. This tells me that a lot of people were probably happy to get the clear and then be rewarded with a nice weapon at the end of the night.

This truly is a great game and I’m happy to be part of it.

But carry on with your griping.

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Originally Posted by Lium

It took me about five hours or so to finish everything because I never did the Ivalice raids

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Interesting, are these a pre requisite?

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Interesting, are these a pre requisite?

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Yes. You need to have completed Shadowbringers and the Return to Ivalice raids.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

He said he was capping tomes per week and doing the usual lockouts. So he is actively playing the game already.

He just wants sth. he HATES in order to have "more to do"... which is completely nonsensical in my book.

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Yes I agree having content for the sake of having content to feel like sub is worth it is kinda meh

But paying a sub to play other games and be like cool I can play other games is meh too.