Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

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Originally Posted by ilmynasa

Garland DB has the skill data mines out..... with the trans it didn't say it'll consume stacks, and since the CD is every 30s (instead of 60s with aetherflow), with 15s duration, I believe you CAN use aetherflow, aetherflow skills during trans, and on top of that, the 3 bahamut stacks will stay so you'd be aiming to trans every 30s for 15s (50% of the fight).

And ruin3's potency is 120 according to the DB.

Oh god I forsee smn nerf coming 3.05.....

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Garland DB is now down, due to a request from Yoshi-P.

http://puu.sh/itIgd/956b79e27c.png

Is that seriously right? 26K mp for a 200 potency? How bout we just make that into a fricking mana burn and have a 1-1 mana/dmg ratio <_<

It uses an Aetherflow stack, does not actually cost any mana. Take a look at this image, you can notice Energy Drain has the same cost and Fester.
http://i.imgur.com/2wrnr0m.png

For Garuda, wouldn't it be better to save contagion+raging strikes+pot for when you go into DWS so that the DoTs will be buffed by the 10%+RS+Pot ?

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Originally Posted by ilmynasa

Garland DB has the skill data mines out..... with the trans it didn't say it'll consume stacks, and since the CD is every 30s (instead of 60s with aetherflow), with 15s duration, I believe you CAN use aetherflow, aetherflow skills during trans, and on top of that, the 3 bahamut stacks will stay so you'd be aiming to trans every 30s for 15s (50% of the fight).

And ruin3's potency is 120 according to the DB.

Oh god I forsee smn nerf coming 3.05.....

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Doing so would require holding onto the last aetherdam stack to refresh the duration of the bahamut stacks while you're in dread trance. SMN opener just got super loaded, and added real play to the class in between aetherflow cds

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Originally Posted by sasdas

It uses an Aetherflow stack, does not actually cost any mana.

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imma hold my doubts on that, be kinda funny if it says that much in game, go in, try to hit something and says no mp even without stacks. Or could be bad mining. All I know is, it shows something completely different outside the usual 0 mp and aetherflow stack req for bane and fester. Sooo, meh

E to sas's image: Sorry, but you are right, i kneejerked only because I don't watch ability datamined sites like others, and went on what is shown from the library app.

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Originally Posted by ilmynasa

Garland DB has the skill data mines out..... with the trans it didn't say it'll consume stacks, and since the CD is every 30s (instead of 60s with aetherflow), with 15s duration, I believe you CAN use aetherflow, aetherflow skills during trans, and on top of that, the 3 bahamut stacks will stay so you'd be aiming to trans every 30s for 15s (50% of the fight).

And ruin3's potency is 120 according to the DB.

Oh god I forsee smn nerf coming 3.05.....

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Yeah, but since Attunement is still tied to Aetherflow (3 Stacks @ 60s to reach Trance) you are limited outside of the opener to 1 Dreadwyrm Trance per Aetherflow.

So it looks like Death Flare will be a part of the normal rotation (used just before the Trance falls off)

There is a very small window for Ruin III usage

3D could be timed with the use of Trance to ensure the most Ruin III uptime

AOE - Trance -> SC SF -> Pain Flare -> 3D -> Bane -> M2 -> Death Flare -> Pain Flare (Happy Days)

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Opener?

RS -> POT -> B2 -> M -> B -> Fester -> (Trance probably wont effect Pets so you're probably safe to Rouse/Spur Enkindle) R2 -> Pain Flare -> R2 etc to Fester -> R2 -> Trance -> 3D -> R3 spam -> Death Flare (weaving Festers etc)

Dat Enkindle cast time reduction though...

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Yeah, but since Attunement is still tied to Aetherflow (3 Stacks @ 60s to reach Trance) you are limited outside of the opener to 1 Dreadwyrm Trance per Aetherflow.

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Yes, that's assuming when you exit trance, your attunement is reset to 0, by means of either deathflare consuming 3 or the trance itself consume 3.

IF, the attunement stacks will not be consumed but rather just refreshed (like grease lighting), you can maintain a constant 3 stacks of attunement by spreading out your fester/painflares within the 60s of aetherflow CD (aka, make sure you will have another aetherflow ready within the next 30s if you use one aetherflow).
But like I said, this is assuming you can keep the attunement stacks. Which I think kind of make sense looking at the CD for dreadwyre trance.