Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

A4 - Another AST was with me, decently geared and chose Nocturnal stance. Never used any of the aspected spells, only time they used a shield was when the legs broke and that was rare. Ended up doing 60% of all healing that fight then got upset when I asked him to use aspects abilities next time on upcoming raid-wide damage.

He was trying to play Noc AST like a WHM

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Originally Posted by Violin

He was trying to play Noc AST like a WHM

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I did a party finder for A4 this previous week and none of my preferred healing partners was on. So I went SCH since there was a WHM. Boy did I make a mistake, he didn't seem to know any sort of regen existed (I'm guessing he is one of those afraid of casting Medica II because of add aggro, yet those things hit like a wet noodle that it's easy to DPS them down anyway) At this point I'm glad I chose Eos as I couldn't trust them to even get any HoTs going, which they never did, let alone during orbs. Also not one single regen on either of us during judgement nisi. The discoid tank hits? Yeah that was me keeping the MT up. I still had to stay and help my BLM friend that came along get their loot for one more run. The next one went a little better, but that was because I knew how they would play, stingy single target healing. Which means barely any room for me to DPS aside from a shadow flare toss. Got it. I was just so fed up to say anything and while there was no wipes, it's one of those instances where you just smile and leave once everyone got their loot.

I had enjoyed Aurum Vale a lot so far, while levelling up all my jobs. And I finally unlocked it as an AST yesterday, so I gave it a try. The party was composed of a new DRK, a new DRG, a multiple-50 bard and myself.


First room went quite smooth, a bit slow, but might as well as that when trying a new job.
First boss : I explained the strat in details. Everbody understands english and thanks me for the strat. Great then, let's get going. 7 stacks later on the tank and dragoon, we wipe and start over. Second try made it.

We keep going a bit and the bard explains the dragoon he should have his dots up permanently (very nice of him to explain that, I thought)

Coincounter is next... After the explanation of the strat and all possible attacks again, we get going. Bard dies within a minute shot by a "stare" followed by the dragoon soon after by a swing. I swift-raise the bard. And have to wait another minute to raise the DRG. As soon as the DRG is back on his feet again, Bard dies again, too close from the swing (eh?), and again followed by the dragoon. At that point, the boss is at 20%, and I'm not willing to spend an extra raise. We finished the boss, just the tank and I.

The next pack of mobs is famous for hitting hard, and we have a full party of level 47 (except the bardie, 51 or so), so I'm warning the new tank not to aggro everything. Too late. I start spamming my heals and halfway through it, I find time to type "oom" in chat, hoping the bard will get the hint and cover me with manasong. He doesn't. We finally kill them all, with my hands bleeding and my mana below 150 mp.
And the bard says "eh tank, if you need TP, I can sing a song, just ask". I reply "No kidding ? what about my mana ?"

3rd boss, Bard says " I'll use manasong for you, mister DRK". Both tank and I reply that mp-regen doesn't work on drk's manacombo (so much for teaching others how to play their jobs, eh ?). Dps didn't kill adds fast enough, they jump at my throat, inflicting me multiple stacks at once. Somehow, at 6 stacks, I still managed to eat a fruit, raised the dragoon whom I had to let perish to save myself, and we finally made it, 60 minutes.

Leveling AST, get into Stone Vigil. Going through the first few trash packs, the tank's taking such a ridiculous amount of damage that I have to spam benefic II and it's still barely keeping him up. Inspect him between pulls, turns out all his accessories were gathering ones. And no, he didn't just forget to equip tank ones.

The dragoon had to pull him aside and teach him about tank stats.

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Originally Posted by Violin

A4 - Another AST was with me, decently geared and chose Nocturnal stance. Never used any of the aspected spells, only time they used a shield was when the legs broke and that was rare. Ended up doing 60% of all healing that fight then got upset when I asked him to use aspects abilities next time on upcoming raid-wide damage.

He was trying to play Noc AST like a WHM

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Noct Sect spells are highly inefficient if you do not need the eHP from shields to extend the target's "maxHP" over its original threshhold. SCHs actively use their shields because they do not have a Cure II or Medica equivalent like AST does. Generally, if the raid-wide damage is not going to kill the raid or a specific target in one blow, you're better off using Helios or Benefic II.

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Originally Posted by technole

I did a party finder for A4 this previous week and none of my preferred healing partners was on. So I went SCH since there was a WHM. Boy did I make a mistake, he didn't seem to know any sort of regen existed (I'm guessing he is one of those afraid of casting Medica II because of add aggro, yet those things hit like a wet noodle that it's easy to DPS them down anyway)

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A WHM has the easiest time bursting down those adds of the Healers. Most groups the DPS will just peel anyway if a Healer pulls them. I normally help kill the add closest to the MT since they usually grab it I use assize swiftcast holy fluid aura and aero and it's pretty much dead from the Tank also hitting it. alone it maybe takes aero III and a couple of extra holys. I rarely need to kill any add I pull aggro on anyway. I never understand a WHM who never uses regen or medica II even seen some who never use divine seal. It's like never using anything that is good about your class.

Not really a horror story, but I got my last piece of Alexander normal loot for my WHM. Sitting at i191 I knew my MND stat was in the high 900's so I opened up my Attributes window, wondering if I had managed to pass 1,000 MND.

999.

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[EDIT] Just got an i200 upgrade today. 1,002 MND now. :D

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Originally Posted by MidnightTundra

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Had a friend look at the numbers. He was healing -only- his tank friend and no one else.

As far as the shields go: Im very aware that the shields for AST are ass, but having at least some of it mitigated would help tremendously during aoe phases. Like after attacking the Manipulator and taking that large raid-wide damage. At least popping a shield on the group and using Collective Unconscious I could have easily conserved mana for other healing later in the fight. Instead I was healing all of it. Same goes for the bits and healing him through the Nisi since he was so concerned for his tank friend. The fact that he left out a huge chunk of his kit to only heal one person during the whole fight is the point of this 'healer nightmare'.

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Originally Posted by Violin

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A. Helios actually is pretty bad at conserving mana in all points in the fight. Its about 300 more MP for 10 less potency than Helios. If it's not going to kill the group, you're better off using Helios in Noct Sect to top the group off after MR and CZ. I normally have enough time to do so. CU is essentially "free" so there's no reason not to use it for Mortal Revolution.

If he's letting himself die to Nisi well... no comment on that.

Good job on the carry. The fight is pretty hard when you have a clueless healing partner.

Had several annoying ex roulettes lately. Tank pulls everything at the start of Neverreap, mobs take forever to kill and bounce around hitting everyone (including fairy).. and then tank does not learn and does the same for all of the other pulls. Seriously, some people need to realize that with some parties, one group at a time is better. .___.