Alpha First Look: Video 3 - The Black Shroud

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Originally Posted by Aerenvel

I know this is going to sound sad and if the shoe fits wear it as they say. "I know this probably isnt you"

They say the average gamers has the attention spam of like 15-20 sec b4 they get bored.
As dumb as jumping sounds..... Its a variable far overlooked but so obvious when you think of it.
Im sure you can see where that is going.
I think they are implementing level sync so they should do away with PL and exp issues let you pt with friends
And think 2 its HOT atm but only atm games not out yet, just think of it as another emote and use it as a tool to stay away, or ask the person if they are ok maybe something is bothering them.
Ultimately itz up 2 you I personally just want to play it lol.

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I do see it exactly as an emote. That is one reason one of my suggestions would be the ability to turn it off like a chat channel. I especially think so because I see it as a potential way to harass people, like tea-bagging in Halo.

I actually have a really good attention span, and studies have shown that gaming improves attention. Being a white mage in an experience party for several hours certainly requires you to go into some sort of a trance. However I'm also easily distracted at times by certain things and characters jumping constantly is one of those things unfortunately, lol.

I'm just going to wait until I actually see how it is before bringing it up again.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

its hopeless dude, they don't like it because they just don't like to see it. I mean they might say they don't like to see hundreds of people do it but this video showed just one guy jumping and look what happened. I watched the demonstration video and it did not bother me, but it bothered them so much as if someone was scratching nails on a chalk board. simple as that. its always the same people too.

*tap dances out to stage left*

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Nails on chalkboard is a good analogy, so I guess you have some empathy for us even if you disagree. I would not really be bothered by this video except that there are a couple of segments were I wonder if the jump button is stuck ;P

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Originally Posted by casker

Look again bro. The entire movement system is totally different, that's why they made new animations that don't even work the same way as the old ones. And the new ones suck. For example, instead of turning and running 180 in 1.0, you now just backtrack. All of those turning animations are gone because the movement paradigm is totally different. The only thing that might look similar is the running forward, and it's stiff as hell now. And yes, all of the transitions are choppy as all hell including rebounding after a jump.

The quality level it's at now is not exceptable or anywhere near what it was in 1.0, new movement paradigm or not.

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I have to agree with this, while the landscape and lighting looks fantastic, the character animations look, now , dull and lifeless, I hope it's still in the works to bring that lifelikeness back.

I can't wait to play this game!

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Originally Posted by Tupster

Jump jump jump jump jump jump.

Jumping seems to serve almost no purpose except to make me wonder why somebody is jumping. I was going to wait to complain until I saw how nervous players would be, but after seeing the Live Letter and now even this video where the PR rep can't keep from jumping, I must say that I really hate the jumping. It is really distracting. It looks bad (one should jump differently if one is running vs. standing still). It also seems like it will actually be unneeded to actually get anywhere.

The jumping needs to be fixed.

[Edit: I address a lot of criticism later in this thread and a lot of good points were made. I encourage anybody interested in this to read the thread.]

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Not this shit again... if you want to be in an mmo without jumping, go to FFXI.

EDIT: You know what? After reading how full of yourself in other posts and how much you act like you own the FFXIV IP I'm going to create a dummy character, find you, and *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* until you ragequit in absolute terror- LALAFELL STYLE!

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Originally Posted by Warlock

Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...iZCHXg#t=1826s
The archers on his right where he gets to that spot and they arrive they turn around on the spot stepping style

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Hey! Warlord! It's me, Tomato! <3 You survived Dalamud!

It's pretty disgusting to see how people are complaining about jumping. Is it perfect ? No, it can use some polish, but keeping up with thread has really made me scratch my head in wonder with some of the complaints. There's nothing wrong with adding a jump feature to this game. Just because people have an itchy jump button finger, you guys are getting bent out of shape and complaining because of jumping. You guys need to get over it.

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Sama

It's pretty disgusting to see how people are complaining about jumping. Is it perfect ? No, it can use some polish, but keeping up with thread has really made me scratch my head in wonder with some of the complaints. There's nothing wrong with adding a jump feature to this game. Just because people have an itchy jump button finger, you guys are getting bent out of shape and complaining because of jumping. You guys need to get over it.

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Makes outsiders look poorly on FFXIV's community, really... I guess since we all survived 1.0-1.23 some of us grew a self-entitlement badge.

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Originally Posted by Tupster

I do see it exactly as an emote..

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The problem is it is not an emote... if it was you could not use it to go over objects. As someone has already said before if you turned off the ability to see others jumping then when they jump over an object it would just show them slide through it... I think that would look much worse then seeing people jumping around actually...

Also I have played... I actually don't know how many MMOs... really so many I have lost count... Pretty much all of them have jumping in them and never do I see people just jumping around for the hell of it all the time. Yes now and then you get some people that like to hop around but it is not something that goes on constantly...

You humans sure like to make mountains out of mole hills don't you? And no you don't have to answer that looking at the forums I see that it is already true... such a sad sad race you have become...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

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Originally Posted by PotatoSalad

Not this shit again... if you want to be in an mmo without jumping, go to FFXI.

EDIT: You know what? After reading how full of yourself in other posts and how much you act like you own the FFXIV IP I'm going to create a dummy character, find you, and *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* until you ragequit in absolute terror- LALAFELL STYLE!

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Why so much anger? I thought there was a good discussion where good points were made on both sides. Do you have anything specific to say about those points or are you just going to attack my motives? If all you had to say after reading the thread is "I would harass you until you quit the game" then I don't think you actually understood mine or anybody else's point of view.

Edit: Your weird assumption about me acting like I own FFXIV reminds me of the people in Idiocracy who thought the main character was a douche bag because he could speak intelligently. Just because I speak analytically about FFXIV doesn't mean that I think I own it.