Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

This is more of a question than a rant, though it's a rant as well. Can you report people that spam those macros that make up a picture if you squint at them? And I don't mean just once. I mean two people spamming them complete with sound effects. As they were from a different server I don't think I can just blacklist them. But is it something reportable?

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Originally Posted by Amariel34

This is more of a question than a rant, though it's a rant as well. Can you report people that spam those macros that make up a picture if you squint at them? And I don't mean just once. I mean two people spamming them complete with sound effects. As they were from a different server I don't think I can just blacklist them. But is it something reportable?

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If they were spamming them to the point where you can't read chat then I think it is reportable.

Doing the wall so much... I really wish there was a raid version of the fight. So fun. So sloppy.

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Originally Posted by Meillquei

Then the tank decides to act like a jerk and says things like "You know the nail? The thing I marked with a 1? You need to kill that" and then specifically starts yelling at the thaumaturge for not doing enough.

We kill it next attempt and tank says "Welp bye" and leaves.

Is it really necessary to yell at new players when they don't know all the fights? =/

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I want to point out it can be hard to decipher tone through text chat. So whether the mate was being a jerk, "yellin" at them or not, theres a strong possibility he wasnt. You were probably being somewhat cynical at the time. Maybe.

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Originally Posted by Amariel34

This is more of a question than a rant, though it's a rant as well. Can you report people that spam those macros that make up a picture if you squint at them? And I don't mean just once. I mean two people spamming them complete with sound effects. As they were from a different server I don't think I can just blacklist them. But is it something reportable?

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Also you can cross server blacklist now. for future reference and all.

Ever see someone in a roulette playing a job you know rather well and they keep screwing up on the most basic elements of a job and it just feels like nails on a chalkboard?

Happened to me with this one bard: dots kept falling off, never saw them use iron jaws once, whole time they looked like they were either failing at multitasking or they hadn't played their job anywhere outside of Palace of the Dead. Also didn't help either that I was on my baby bard and barely managing dps checks because I had to pull both our weights just to finish them. I mean having to use LB to kill adds and almost having to use it on the sword for the sloppy final boss because of how lacking our combined dps was.

When I died from the second lionshead attack and the dps check was failed, I felt like I had to speak my mind about them when I said it honestly looked like it was the first time on that bard. Of course their friends swore at me and then gave me a warning to boot me immediately before I was kicked from the dungeon.

Did another ex roulette, got Wall again, did fine. Lesson learned that best pugs are groups of complete strangers where no one knows anyone in that group.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

Lesson learned that best pugs are groups of complete strangers where no one knows anyone in that group.

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It's funny you should say that, because I was in Sohm Al normal as SCH. Things are going fine, we get to 2nd boss, and I'm just prepared for people to ignore the stacking/splitting mechanic as usual.

Cue everybody doing the stacks/splits perfectly, every single time. I just had to pause after the fight was over and ask myself "Did I really just see that happen?" It was almost like we were psychic back there, nobody ran away from a stack, nobody moved wrong, everything was done right. I never knew that was possible, and nobody even needed to say anything!

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Originally Posted by Dreggit

Doing the wall so much... I really wish there was a raid version of the fight. So fun. So sloppy.

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If they do they will combine it with the Vault and maybe call it Balessar's Vault and the final boss can shout "Sloppy must be purged!" every ten seconds. ^_^ Could also combine the mechanics of the two as well into something you really need to dance through...

Let's see, the other night I was running Dun Scaith as a monk. The ninja used the lb3 just as a majority of our team was down. One healer, the tank, me, ninja. The healer said that they shouldn't waste the lb3 and save it for the healers.

The ninja proceeded to get defensive. Literally called the healer "a f****** c***". Said the lb3 wouldn't have mattered as it wouldn't bring back the entire raid. Then stated that every time we would get one bar they would just use it. I've never seen a vote kick get passed so quickly, ahaha.

The other day my SO and I were playing as our alt twin brother characters and two friends were telling us how adorable our characters were. It's makes me all giggly thinking about it.

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Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

Also you can cross server blacklist now. for future reference and all.

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How do you do this? I thought you could, but I can't figure out how. Also I don't think you can while a dungeon is in-progress, can you? Cause when I right-clicked on their name all that came up was Report > Report RMT.

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Originally Posted by Tchaktuli

If they do they will combine it with the Vault and maybe call it Balessar's Vault and the final boss can shout "Sloppy must be purged!" every ten seconds. ^_^ Could also combine the mechanics of the two as well into something you really need to dance through...

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Yeeessssss. What would the gear drops be?

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Originally Posted by Dreggit

Yeeessssss. What would the gear drops be?

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Hmm, probably some kind of religious Garlean armour sets with crazy helmets and capes. Something similar or based off of Livia, Gaius and Nero from Castrum and Praetorium and maybe from Regula in ARF. Or at least that is what I would go with. Oh and a rare drop Mgitek Tank mount like the second boss of the Wall.

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Originally Posted by Amariel34

How do you do this? I thought you could, but I can't figure out how. Also I don't think you can while a dungeon is in-progress, can you? Cause when I right-clicked on their name all that came up was Report > Report RMT.

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You have to do it from your Contacts list (under friend's list in the main menu).
Never tried it while in a Duty so I don't know if it works.

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Originally Posted by Dreggit

Doing the wall so much... I really wish there was a raid version of the fight. So fun. So sloppy.

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As a BLM, it annoys me when he decides to jump around. Nothing like getting casts interrupted (even when we follow him with our gaze) and then having to move as fast as possible :U

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Originally Posted by Moomba33

You have to do it from your Contacts list (under friend's list in the main menu).
Never tried it while in a Duty so I don't know if it works.

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You can't do it in duty, only afterward.

Sastasha normal of all things! Get a party of three sprouts, all classes no jobs. I say my greetings then everyone runs off and starts fighting. "So how new are you guys?" I ask just so I know what to expect and what I should help them out with.

No answers. And to my surprise since it was so unexpected, NO HEALS. Yes I know it's Sastasha normal, it's hard to die there. Well the sprout healer seemed determined to only cast Stone outside of Cleric's then spam Medica off in a corner. I gave some tips on not pulling before the tank and the proper use of single target vs. aoe heals. Aaaaaand... nothing. No responses, no changes.

Hoo boy it's gonna be that kinda run. Well again it's an easy newb dungeon so I'll make it fast. Healer proceeds to use knockback on any target in front of me, lancer madly running circuits around any mob I'm not currently targeting. The archer was acceptable once he stopped pulling. Several times healer runs out of mp due to Medica spam.. pulls more mobs before me.. etc etc.

I pretty much stopped talking at that point since I figured I was being royally trolled. Get to the final pulls and healer lets me drop so I take my time going back, they barely stayed up but that's mainly due to how weak the mobs are here. Hooray it's the boss. I pull then get a bit fed up when I see the healer continuing to spam Medica in dps stance. I did a bad.. I stopped trying to keep hate. Archer dies and lo and behold he at least can talk! "WTF! Good luck you better rez me now!"

Healer was out of mp for a while but I have plenty of potions from PotD so just finished things off. Gave the healer some more advice about bad habits. Looked them up on the Lodestone and yes they were a bunch of newbies in giant FCs that probably never got training or advice (or if they did shrugged it off). Somehow I got a commendation despite dropping my tanking oath at the last boss.. I have a lot of patience for new folks but to not even talk or try to improve but actively do WORSE in response?

Ran Dun Scaithe today and someone shouted "save LB" on the first boss. Apparently they wanted us to save LB3 for adds and have the casters burn them all down. Well, nobody did so they called us a bunch of n00bs, threatened to report the DRG in their party for using the LB, and then rage quit. Actually rage quit might be mild, dude had a complete and utter meltdown.

Late night, my brain tells me I'm too tired to tank another set of PotD floors.
Of course I don't listen and enter anyways :rolleyes:
The first few rooms go smoothly and we unlock the teleporter, but there is an extra room left.
I carefully glance in and see tons of chests!....and tons of monsters.

My brain tells me once again that this is a bad idea, so of course I pull a bit from the edge anyway.
I accidently pull two instead of one, and because I'm on WAR and do not understand how WAR aoe works, cleave like three more with my aoe :o

...now is probably a good time to mention that all the monsters in that room were bombs :D
So I try to get the five I have under control by cleaving more of the room, pulling another.
To establish aggro on the six I now have, throw in another cleave for good measure and pull another one in the process.
I think you see now where this is going..

I glance over to the healer as my HP get dangerously low and see that he/she is getting attacked by a monster too,
but she doesn't seem to mind, actually, the entire party seems really content with keeping a FAIR distance from me.
But because I'm such a helpful and friendly tank, I instantly rush over to grab that monster off of her, dragging my group of 7 or 8 half-finished bombs with me.

The bards still sing tales about that day, and how the incredible amount of explosions shook the ground all the way to Gridania..:cool:


No seriously though: sorry to my party for wiping us in such a stupid way. PotD queue times aren't long, but you still probably waited a few min and now have to wait again :(

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

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Sounds like they were brought up in PotD.

I feel bad.

I've been having internet issues again, and there were at least 2 DF dungeons in the past few days that I was the Healer in that I got DCed on in the middle of the dungeon, and by the time I got back, it was too late.

I queue for Dun Scaith, I hit progression and yeah, slow dps, many wipes but we push through. The veterans explain the don't move on red floor, someone shouts - It's just a dot, healers can heal through it. And then they proceed to say "git gud" when people argued about it. The cringe was real. =_=

Was doing some more leveling in the Aery on WAR, got in a party with a superb MNK that was constantly fighting me for hate, a BRD who was... well, alright I guess, and a newbie SCH. However, I share boss strategies, and for the most part we get through the dungeon unscathed. Until we reach Nidhogg.

I explain what I feel to be the important bits of strategy: How to dodge Scarlet Price, that Sable Price needs to die ASAP, even that Liegetails take precedence over Liegedrakes since I can't pull them off Estinien. Fight appears to be going ok until we hit the add phase aaaaand it turns out that the SCH never actually bothered to heal Estinien. We panic, we wipe, we remind the healer, and then we go again.

Second attempt, SCH is doing a good job of keeping both myself and Estinien topped off. We do have a minor hiccup with the BRD tunnel-visioning while the MNK eats a Sable Weave, but the SCH gets them up in time for the adds. We take them out, we get in the bubble... and see our little SCH off to the side. We yell for them to get inside the bubble, but it's too late. They bite it.

At this point, I'm determined to win. I start using Storm's Path, pop all my defensive cooldowns, no way in hell am I going down without a fight. We have two bars so I command the MNK to use them. They do, but die to a scarlet price during the animation lock. Just me and the BRD left.... for about 3 GCDs, when the BRD gets targeted with Sable Price. Crap. I pop Holmgang as I'm a few hits from death, and start trying to kill him as fast as possible. 10%. 8%. 7%. Holmgang is running out and I'm at 1 HP. Time to take my trump card out of the box. I pop Fracture.

Holmgang drops. So do I. Nidhogg starts racing over to the BRD. I'm not sure if he can be hit while fettered, but Sable Weave is almost done casting so he's screwed either way. And then... the screen goes black. The victory fanfare plays. Fracture had nudged him over to 5%, the point where this particular battle ends.

You might think this story is a self-congratulating jerkfest but no, I do not deserve the credit for this win. All thanks should go to the much maligned Fracture. May you ever go on breaking bones swiftly.

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Originally Posted by MuseTraveller

I queue for Dun Scaith, I hit progression and yeah, slow dps, many wipes but we push through. The veterans explain the don't move on red floor, someone shouts - It's just a dot, healers can heal through it. And then they proceed to say "git gud" when people argued about it. The cringe was real. =_=

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Ugh, this is why I hate most DPS in this game. They always feel like the healer's job is to carry them through everything. Nevermind that MP is not infinite, and the damage from that particular DoT is large enough that I can't keep up a whole party of afflicted DPS unless they deign to stack for Cure III.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

Ugh, this is why I hate most DPS in this game. They always feel like the healer's job is to carry them through everything. Nevermind that MP is not infinite, and the damage from that particular DoT is large enough that I can't keep up a whole party of afflicted DPS unless they deign to stack for Cure III.

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I agree here. As main DPS I feel so bad when I mess up somewhere and give extra strain to the healers and then there are these kinda DPS >_>; On the bright side, I saw them tank the floor for good portion of the fight afterwards. I guess the healers in his alliance weren't too thrilled on their comments. :D

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

Ugh, this is why I hate most DPS in this game. They always feel like the healer's job is to carry them through everything. Nevermind that MP is not infinite, and the damage from that particular DoT is large enough that I can't keep up a whole party of afflicted DPS unless they deign to stack for Cure III.

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Even worse, it gives you a heavy so bad you can't hit your positionals!

Getting hit by stuff for the sake of dps is fine, but that shit's a dps loss any way you look at it. God forbid you end up pulling a healer out of cleric stance for it.

Two stories from today, trying to keep it short as I am not in the mood to write something long at the moment.

1. Dun Scaith

We kill Deathgaze Hollow, open the chests aaaaand BAM! Monk is gone. Say hello to my blacklist!
Didn't like the drops so they just left the duty. Sigh.
We get a Ninja replacement.
After killing the second boss, we open the chests and BAM! Ninja disconnects.

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I've been witnessing this a lot in 24 man raids, so I told my alliance not to kick him.
After we killed the Headmaiden, he returned. He seemed a bit annoyed ( :D ), but ultimately decided to stay.

2. 60 Roulette (for glamour)

Sadly, RNG picks ARF for us.
I went as Ninja, the second DPS was a Bard.
Manqo'te [✓]
Final Fantasy name [✓]
iLevel 200 bow [✓]
Didn't know how to play Bard effectively [✓]
His search info said French only so wouldn't even be able to understand our advice [✓]
But at least he didn't have spiky hair!

Well, I bet you already guessed it, but he sucked. Luckily, our WAR tank was phenomenal and compensated for the BRD's lack of DPS.
Sigh².

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Originally Posted by MuseTraveller

I queue for Dun Scaith, I hit progression and yeah, slow dps, many wipes but we push through. The veterans explain the don't move on red floor, someone shouts - It's just a dot, healers can heal through it. And then they proceed to say "git gud" when people argued about it. The cringe was real. =_=

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As a healer main, I usually sigh and chase all the DPS around the room to try and keep them up mostly because I'm stupid enough to have hope that they just accidentally moved or stood in that giant red AOE circle that I had time to clear out of and not wanting to wipe because 2 hours in Dun Scaith is a looong time... If only people would stay grouped for my own healing aoes like they do the red ones on the floor. /cry Hey! There's a thought, can we add an AOE circle for healers? DPS seem to like standing in them so they might just do it and get healed instead...

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Originally Posted by Tchaktuli

As a healer main, I usually sigh and chase all the DPS around the room to try and keep them up mostly because I'm stupid enough to have hope that they just accidentally moved or stood in that giant red AOE circle that I had time to clear out of and not wanting to wipe because 2 hours in Dun Scaith is a looong time... If only people would stay grouped for my own healing aoes like they do the red ones on the floor. /cry Hey! There's a thought, can we add an AOE circle for healers? DPS seem to like standing in them so they might just do it and get healed instead...

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When I'm learning a new raid I set up a macro to Aetherial Manipulation to one of the healers, mainly because they don't tend to stand in stupid and they have all the heals:p

Leveling an alt and got into Copperbell Mines. Had a mentor scholar who /followed the tank and did nothing the entire time letting fairie heal. Not an uncommon situation but the first time it has actually ever happened to me. Very irritating.

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

Leveling an alt and got into Copperbell Mines. Had a mentor scholar who /followed the tank and did nothing the entire time letting fairie heal. Not an uncommon situation but the first time it has actually ever happened to me. Very irritating.

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That actually happens? Jesus I thought that was just a stereotype.

The other day I had a Halatali NM run with a healer who was DPSing, two black mages who were Physicking, and they wanted me to let the healer keep aggro and tank (I was the actual tank). That was interesting.

I got Bismark from trials. Should be easy, right? Nope.

We wiped due to not killing the green and blue adds on time. Both tanks started sound uppity. I got a little snooty at them.

Anyways when we get the DKs at Bismark, everyone ran to get on Bismark's back. I stayed on the island since I was asked to heal from there while everyone else got on the back. Anyways, one BLM (we have 2) stayed with me on the island.

So let's call the BLMs Orange and Yellow.

Yellow was the one who stayed with me. Tank yelled at him "YELLOW YOU GET ON BISMARK'S BACK TO DO DPS" but he didn't get on anyways. Anyways, when we get DKs on Bismark again, Yellow stayed in the islnd again. Same tank says "AGAIN, YELLOW! ON BACK!" But nope.

We wiped again anyways. Next thing I know, someone booted out Orange. I clicked no. But I guess half the party besides me, Orange, and my fiance came together and one person who came with him were in que together. Orange asked if he did something wrong right before the kick passed.

I assume the tanks initiated it. Once it passed. they both left.

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

Leveling an alt and got into Copperbell Mines. Had a mentor scholar who /followed the tank and did nothing the entire time letting fairie heal. Not an uncommon situation but the first time it has actually ever happened to me. Very irritating.

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they auto follow me i walk them back to the entrance and wait there till they decided to play

I had a brain fart the other day. I came back after some time off and I'm going through my classes and I'm like why don't I have regen or none of my job abilities for my white mage. I have not been playing that long only about 2 and a half months total. Yes I forgot about the class stone you need to equip. I'm at the 3rd primal in the story and enter it. We make it through on like the 3rd try but I'm still confused where all my spells went. Than I get the dungeon with the dragons and make it through that no problem. I finally go to do my 45 job quest and that's when I remember the stone I need to equip cause it won't let me grab the quest. Lmao no one told me I was a conjuror in any of the dungeon runs whitch I thought was weird especially after the 2nd wipe on the primal. Every thing is good to go now though. I made healing those a lot harder than they had to be though lol. Go ahead and laugh but I thought it was pretty funny.

Did sastasha hard the other day with a free company friend both queued blm. he was lazy and I hate not having armor crush on ninja...

anyway got paired up wit ha drk and a whm. run was going ok at first the dark was pulling mobs all the place almost trying to kite them in circles to take less damage... my friend not saying anything just did the /question emote at the tank.... tank runs to the door for before the second boss clicks open and then bails the duty... wut tha f000000q...

just ploughed on through the rest of the dungeon as 2 blms and a whm. creative use of quelling strikes and e4e / wall / ward to bounce the hate a bit....

quite impressed with the whm really... tossing out dps healing up and still not really struggling with mp even though we were pretty squishy...

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Originally Posted by Cylestea

they auto follow me i walk them back to the entrance and wait there till they decided to play

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I'll take em to the end, then kick em out and bring in a friend :3

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Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

That actually happens? Jesus I thought that was just a stereotype.

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I'm more surprised that people don't kick these players when it does happen.

This might be a minor story but I just got kicked simply for going to the wrong party, on WoD. Even apologized too, people are way too sensitive, didn't even get a chance to explain, and the fight didn't start at all and they did it.

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Originally Posted by Pells

I'm more surprised that people don't kick these players when it does happen.

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Replacing a DPS is easy and immediate. Tanks and healers don't come quickly, or sometimes at all. :/

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

Replacing a DPS is easy and immediate. Tanks and healers don't come quickly, or sometimes at all. :/

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Healers/tanks aren't required for Copperbell Mines.