The Monk Temple

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Originally Posted by enil

A "guide" that has incorrect spelling and 0 explanation or maths is just an opinion. The accuracy requirement is incorrect and it weights Determination as the same as Crit. Pretty all the information is incorrect.

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I'm not seeing a single bit of misspelling, and gives explanation as to how things are weighted, as well as why they have that priority. The accuracy requirement is spot on, and mentioned that Det and Crit are around the same priority, not the same weight.

Side note, Arkista, where did you get your signature?

Is there an accuracy requirement for Leviathan X? And if so, what is it?

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Originally Posted by Grimm08

I open with perfect balance, and i can only fit 4 GCD skills into it if my skill speed is anything less than 430. It usually goes Demolish, Blood for Blood, Twin Snakes, Internal Release, Snap Punch, Steel Peak, Demolish, Howling fist (PB ends here) Touch of Death, Rotation. I can fit in a Dragon Kick between the Snap Punch and Demolish ONLY, as I said, if my speed is over 430-ish.

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Well there's your problem, your opener is horrible. There is no reason to prioritize Twin Snakes over getting to GL3. If you don't hit GL3 in 3 GCDs then you won't fit 5 skills.

Demo BfB Snap IR Snap Steel DK Howl Snap

I do this every day. Always get all 5. Only +15 skill speed on my gear set.

Note: You can find the extended opener (how to follow up when PB ends) in an earlier post of mine and the whole reasoning behind why this opener is optimal as well.

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Originally Posted by kaox_reaper

Is there an accuracy requirement for Leviathan X? And if so, what is it?

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Pretty much around the same as Twintania afaik.

458 and you'll do fine flank and rear.

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Originally Posted by Grimm08

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Accuracy is incorrect.
Accuracy requirements for T5 is 458 for Flank/Back and 482 from front. This has been tested thoroughly in this thread.

Spelling doesn't really matter but "treshold" is a mispelling

Priority's is the same thing as weightings - if you check the calculations by EasyModeX in this thread and other dps simulators Det is significantly higher weighted then Crit. Det should always be priority over other secondary stats (apart from accuracy). As you see all the people who have responded you do not need 400SS+ to add an extra hit for PB unless you are not using your first 3 abilities to put up GLx3.
The "explanation" on which secondary stats to pick is because Determination is a flat linear increase in damage, this doesn't explain anything, crit also increase your damage linearly and so does STR.

I don't think you'll find a single person here who will tell you Myth Body is superior to Allagan body in any way.

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Originally Posted by Grimm08

Side note, Arkista, where did you get your signature?

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Did you try to use B4B/IR before popping PB?

XIVpads.com for the sig.

Enil, do you live in your own world? The accuracy cap for t5 is a resounding 472 around the community. It is lower on twin and wyverns, but the snakes have very high requirements. I've done extensive research in the monk job. When I put something here, it is not just personal opinion, but fact backed observations from multiple sources. I will admit that i may have been a bit off by the skill speed cap, but that was, again, based on many different sources stating the same number. I get now that it is not necessary, but i enjoy my skill speed being well over 400, there is a noticeable increase in the reduction of global cooldowns and i fly through dps like it's nothing. Det. may be better to invest in, but when I'm back-to-back criting 700s, it doesn't seem to matter near as much.

Arkista: No, I weave them in between GCD abilities during PB. My problem was that i was alternating GL producing moves with buffing/debuffing moves, instead of just building all 3 at the beginning.

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Originally Posted by Grimm08

Enil, do you live in your own world? The accuracy cap for t5 is a resounding 472 around the community. It is lower on twin and wyverns, but the snakes have very high requirements. I've done extensive research in the monk job. When I put something here, it is not just personal opinion, but fact backed observations from multiple sources. I will admit that i may have been a bit off by the skill speed cap, but that was, again, based on many different sources stating the same number. I get now that it is not necessary, but i enjoy my skill speed being well over 400, there is a noticeable increase in the reduction of global cooldowns and i fly through dps like it's nothing. Det. may be better to invest in, but when I'm back-to-back criting 700s, it doesn't seem to matter near as much.

Arkista: No, I weave them in between GCD abilities during PB. My problem was that i was alternating GL producing moves with buffing/debuffing moves, instead of just building all 3 at the beginning.

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During your extensive research you must have missed the part where the community discovered that accuracy requirements are lower when attacking targets from their flanks, and even lower from their rears. Since melee DPS stick to flank and rear in a vast majority of their time, the flank cap is wholly sufficient.

Furthermore, you are incorrect with the 472 for T5 even then. The 472 cap was discovered for Caduceus, and allowed for capped accuracy throughout coil for tanks (who typically attack from the front) until Turn 5, at which point the Scourges and the Asclepius + Hygaia packs capped at 482 (not sure if the Scourges go as high as 482). These values were widely accepted until it was discovered that position actually matters.

The moment the discovery was made and confirmed, I ran Turns 1-5 with 458 accuracy exactly for weeks and never missed (except on snakes when stacked for divebombs and BRD did not use Rain of Death).

That number IS FOR MELEE DPS. I don't understand how the other millions of people know this information, yet a select few on this board argue is so vehemently.