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Yo Cid, wtf is a "Starlord"...Quote:
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08-22-2012, 07:51 AMExn
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08-22-2012, 07:51 AMXxOstiaxXPeople always throw "Facts out of their ass" when they have no idea as to what the hell they are talking about... Because you know WOW uses inactive subs towards their total current subs.... OH WAIT!! They dont lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
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08-22-2012, 07:53 AMJeronlmo
The idea of an achievement for doing "extra", or something that doesnt need to be done bothers me, like your AV example, i never get food, not because of the achieve, but because its faster, w/e the hardest/most effective thing is, that should just be what you have to do, just not a fan that people do less and win.
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08-22-2012, 07:55 AMXxOstiaxXWhen you prove something and the person being called out or proven wrong usually uses one of the following excuses:Quote:
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"That is subjective"
"You are wrong because "Mysterious reasons"
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08-22-2012, 07:58 AMXxOstiaxX
Anyways, whats the drama with achievements ? If i recall correctly most are worthless anyways, the only really worthwhile ones where the hardmode ones and arenas anyways <.<
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08-22-2012, 08:05 AMJeronlmo
Basically they asked someone to post a link to their very old WoW chars, they did, and then bashed them for not having certain achievements.
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08-22-2012, 08:08 AMfusionalso you conveniently missed this part directly afterQuote:
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which is important for several reasons, but namely-Quote:
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so. what's happening here is i keep referencing these specific encounters, right? and i'm doing it for a reason. and because you're being a moron, i apparently need to explain this very carefully to you. i'll even type it in capitals.Quote:
Originally Posted by fusional
NOT ALL CONTENT IS CREATED EQUAL.
comprende?
so here you have me referencing specific bosses from specific raids, specific achievements tied to those bosses- and i ask someone if they've done these. i challenge them, if WoW is soooooo easy, to show me they've completed stuff that is actually considered hard in that game. because then if they've done it, and they had an easy time of it, calling all of WoW's endgame easy would carry a bit more weight, yeah?
and what happened was- they posted their character names, and upon searching them on the armory you can very quickly and easily see that they, in fact, *did not* clear this difficult content. they very clearly were a casual-to-midcore player who predominantly did some heroic grinding for wellfare epics then filled in the gaps in their gear with easy to get stuff from bosses people *pugged* in that game.
what does this mean?
they only served to prove me right.
why is this funny? because you know *so little* about the game in question that you think their proof is actually proof, without having any understanding of it and without actually looking it over and vetting it whatsoever.
and then when i reiterate my unchallenged position, you've the audacity to claim i dodged?
do you have any idea at all what's going on here, or anywhere for that matter? who are you and what have you done? surely you'll stop and ask me why that's important, and this is my answer:
because if you've done nothing, then there's a higher likelihood of you understanding nothing. if you understand nothing, you lack perspective and experience to give your arguments clout. if you make arguments lacking clout, i have absolutely no reason at all to take anything you say seriously.
now if you want me to take you seriously, how about doing that thing i keep asking about- providing proof. provide proof of your accomplishments in MMOs. show us what you've experienced, help us understand your perspective. give us an idea of how much weight your arguments carry.
because otherwise you're just spewing a bunch of baseless crap like the people you're blindly waving your flag for.
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08-22-2012, 08:08 AMPriyaThey were brought up because they can be used as time-stamped proof that you actually cleared content. Granted, it doesn't quite work if you go back to before they were implemented or if a character has been inactive for a very long time, but generally the latter is more of an issue than the former.Quote:
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08-22-2012, 08:29 AMfusional
anyway, this entire thread is an exercise in futility. the anti-WoW crowd here as a general rule has no interest in objectivity, facts, or rationale. they're just here to endlessly beat their chests about a game they either never experienced, or only experienced limited segments of. (which is, again, no different from the anti-FFXI or anti-XXXX crowds over on the WoW forums...)
and you know what? that's fine if you didn't clear everything in the game. totally fine.
but the point is- if you haven't, don't comment on it. you have no leg to stand on. you want to talk about what kind of content is difficult and what isn't? cool, but go clear garuda first. she's the *furthest* thing from difficult, but it's a start.
and then you can go work on Rivenroad (hard). which actually is fairly hard compared to other stuff in *this* game (and harder than most stuff in XI). but compared to the specific achievements/bosses i referenced when talking about difficult stuff in WoW- Rivenroad (hard) is a walk in the park.
and if you can't even beat Rivenroad (hard), how exactly am i supposed to take you seriously when you see me reference *actually* difficult things like Firefighter and Alone in the Darkness and tell me they must be super easy because you pugged flame leviathan?
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08-22-2012, 08:31 AMExnNo, it was actually "you that conveniently missed this part directly after"Quote:
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Ahhh yea, see what I did there^^Quote:
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Guys, I think this guy deserves a prize.. Congratulations on your revelation, really. I think the rest of us likely realized that when first demoing the new Pong on Atari, but nonetheless I'm glad you finally caught up..Quote:
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Ok, at the point you asked if I understand that fundamental concept, in Spanish... I stopped reading, gotta be honest. The rest of what you posted could be very inspirational and enlightening, or could be more of the same defensive pandering dodging the fact that someone showed you your 'proof', as you requested, with a valid opinion that counters your own.. you simply can't just leave it at that. I'mmmm betting more of the same so, I dunno, you win?