Highly Notorious Monsters

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Originally Posted by Clydey

As I said earlier, I would like the luck element to be removed from the claim system. I expected some sort of critique of my proposal, but I haven't had much feedback so far. I suggested it hastily, but it seems solid even after taking the time to consider it. Skill and organization would be the keys to claiming the HNM, rather than a bot.

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I believe you may be hard pressed to find many who would disagree with you on the wish to take luck out of the equation. My argument though I am quoting you is not truly aimed just in response of you but several other people who have posted similar ideas that claim is a sort of competition. I agree they should put HNMs in the game if people want them as I have stated before, but I should not be required to go buy some Depends and shoot myself in the head from the boredom of camping in order to get comparable gear. For example give me a BCNM where I can trade a lower drop rate for similar item or go camp it for a higher chance. At least I can choose to be fighting the entire time which is more my style of play while still giving you what you are requesting. They do not need to be identical just comparable.

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Originally Posted by Antipika

I'll give you a protip; there are more casual players out there than hardcore players.

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and i'll give you one. there's a much higher likelihood that a hardcore player will stay subscribed 12 months a year and play almost every day for several years. hardcores aren't the ones subbing for a couple months then unsubbing for several more then coming back again for a couple. they're also not the ones subbing throughout the year but only playing once or twice a week.

casuals form a larger percentage and contribute more cash to the developers' pockets overall, but they're not what holds a game together for years. and that is why you need content which appeals to everyone- and especially your hardcore base.

you think EQ existed for so many years thanks to casuals? ffxi? no. that's entirely unrealistic.

so, yeah, even if they have greater numbers and even though you definitely need to have content for them, does that mean that all content or even most content should be targeted toward them? considering they experience less of the game than a hardcore player (on average) to begin with, that's just completely illogical.

we have casual content. devs ought to add more casual content over time. but we don't have any real hardcore content.

so you do the math.

@ fusional: SE is a business, if the casuals are contributing more money that the hardcores.... while I don't want it to happen, i can VERY EASILY guess which direction content will continue heading. $ = $ = $ = $ and all that $ > desire for hardcore content.

My guess is they'll add some hardcore stuff after they're back in the black.

that's fine. and all the hardcores will leave the game for tera or gw2 or back to WoW or whatever and the game will die. again.

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Originally Posted by fusional

that's fine. and all the hardcores will leave the game for tera or gw2 or back to WoW or whatever and the game will die. again.

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So the hardcore players will leave for a fully instanced game or WoW which is turning into Pokemon meets Farmville? Ok.

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Originally Posted by Clydey

Are athletes elitist jerks because they enjoy competing? Obviously not.

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Obviously not?
HNMs.. no HNMs... at this point I don't even care....
I just want to know how professional athletes are OBVIOUSLY not jerks and assholes...
really?
I actually have a few friends in the NFL... and I'll be honest with you... their douchebags....
And you know what? the more competitive they are... the bigger douches they are....
Michael Jordan is maybe the worlds biggest douche... Im not even kidding...
Lebron James? Michael Vick?
really though?
Athlete =/= douche?

Edit: I'm going to give you a moment to retract that statement... Im barely even following this thread and I don't really know what your position is on this... but that has to hurt your argument... I can't even believe someone said that... I'm calling my buddy Bernard Pollard (Ravens DB) right now... I'm dead serious.... I'm calling him to tell him you said that

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Keep telling yourself that because we all know thats not the truth.

I won't bother explaining what was the case of its failure because I'm pretty sure you know as well as the rest of us that the game was a stinking turd when first released.



How have all the hardcore players quit, you would have to be pretty hardcore to stick around on this game if you ask me, there seem to be plenty of "I wish this was FF11" threads also, which suggests to me there are still plenty of hardcore playing this game.



What the what !!

We weren't even asked what market system we wanted, so lets not fool ourself like any of us made or had the choice.

The idiot who wanted the barter system was Tanaka for what its worth.



Yea because the millions of people who buy offline Final Fantasy games are all hardcore.

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The barter system was a fan idea, I recall it being a thread on one of their sites asking for feedback while XIV was still in development, it got a lot of support and then there it is.

@Antipika
It's sad to see, but XI had a huge hardcore base that shouldn't be ignored. My question is who are the subscribers for those top games? WoW is like 90% american, I've said many times they aren't going to go for a jrpg even if it's a better game. It's like expecting a 360 game to sell big in japan. And even if it did have appeal, you can't out do a game that earns 1 billion+ a year, that's like trying to take over microsoft.

If they have 1,000,000mil+ casual japense gamers they can lure in that's one thing but I don't see it. Just because they sell 6 million copies for XIII doesn't mean they'll get close to that for an online title that requires a subscription.

For a 'highly notorious monster' to spawn, there needs to be fire weather in valkurm. And, if you don't kill it by the time the fire weather leaves, it despawns... even if it's engaged. Good luck.

But seriously, I would like 'special pop conditions' and NM's with incredibly difficult requirements... perhaps HNM's that require MORE than just eight people... HNM's that require the assistance of multiple linkshells to kill... and the reward is not a highly sought after piece of gear, but instead an aesthetic one. Maybe a mount. Just so people won't cry foul if the 'best' gear drops off of these HNM's.

So, people with the desire to camp these HNM's will get the 'satisfaction' they desire by having something to show for it (a title, aesthetic gear, an achievement, etc), but other players won't suffer because these HNM's exist. I've seen screenshots of when multiple linkshells went and killed a guardian of the forest 'just because', and I thought it was hilarious because they actually pulled it off. We need more severely improbable things.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Obviously not?
HNMs.. no HNMs... at this point I don't even care....
I just want to know how professional athletes are OBVIOUSLY not jerks and assholes...
really?
I actually have a few friends in the NFL... and I'll be honest with you... their douchebags....
And you know what? the more competitive they are... the bigger douches they are....
Michael Jordan is maybe the worlds biggest douche... Im not even kidding...
Lebron James? Michael Vick?
really though?
Athlete =/= douche?

Edit: I'm going to give you a moment to retract that statement... Im barely even following this thread and I don't really know what your position is on this... but that has to hurt your argument... I can't even believe someone said that... I'm calling my buddy Bernard Pollard (Ravens DB) right now... I'm dead serious.... I'm calling him to tell him you said that

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You can give me as long as you like, but there's no retraction forthcoming.

You seem to think my post implies that there are no athletes who are jerks or elitists. I suggested nothing of the sort. Indeed, even if all athletes were elitist jerks, my point would still stand. The fact that an athlete is a dickhead has nothing to do with their desire to compete.

Thanks for interjecting with a total non sequitur.

The open world NM's would be nice. I never really cared if a repop time was 3 days, the game should include all types of content, whether it be casual or hardcore. Eventually Eorzea will be immense and we will be engulfed with many things like expansion packs and pet type jobs. Yes the game is broken and the bugs are getting fixed. So even though we do not have any NM's to over camp/ wait for a 18hr. repop timer it will happen... well at least something similar. For the people who do not want ffxi rehashed what do you want them to do instead?