So, how is Pagos?

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

I suppose the slow level grind doesn't seem as bad if you think of it as the replacement for the most severe parts of the zodiac/anima steps. Some of those grinds pre-nerf were extremely slow. The alternative to raid weapons has always been tedious stuff we grind begrudgingly since ARR. I think adding more interesting things to do within Eureka would probably mean sacrificing something from other parts of the game so they have more time to work on it, or longer waits between patches.

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But didn't they already sacrifice things? Wasn't that the reason given for less dungeons? Not that I would ever miss a dungeon in their current form, mind you, but that's beside the point. The point is they said they were sacrificing things so they could give us more varied and interesting content. Where is it?

Eureka Pathos would be more accurate
synonyms:tragedy, sadness, pitifulness, piteousness, pitiableness, plaintiveness, sorrowfulness

Is this what the game has come to?
Developers spending time on this type of mindless junk, instead of dealing with the slowdown in msq content.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

But didn't they already sacrifice things? Wasn't that the reason given for less dungeons? Not that I would ever miss a dungeon in their current form, mind you, but that's beside the point. The point is they said they were sacrificing things so they could give us more varied and interesting content. Where is it?

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Eureka series being multiple new instances to explore is a lot more dev resource heavy than the Anima series which added no new instances/battles, so that's the biggest something versus nothing comparison. Yoshida claimed that they increased resources put into the MSQ (that 4.1 Lakshmi battle at Ala Mhigo for example). I don't miss dungeons either.

Maybe the relics shouldn't be in battle content? Since I've been playing this game everyone complained about each step so far. If the combat is boring then maybe they should put it behind something else. Cause changing the combat is never going to happen. Eureka for example is something I think works better in an action combat game like Tera or monster hunter, where the combat is why you play it. Sadly xiv's combat isnt as deep as those too and making a zone nothing but a fight log isnt helping this game.

That's my thing I guess after thinking it over. I think if it wasnt battle content it'll been recieved better.

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Originally Posted by CoolCat

I find it really hard to get into the mood for it. Got to lvl 21 and I don't feel like going back. Which is terrible, because I want to go through the story for it.

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Predicting "the story" - you will get short cut scenes of odd aether/corrupted aether or something like that until the final installment. Probably flashback of Gulf and co being heroically killed off by Ascian ™ as final scene in Pagos. Tsunjika will eventually get into trouble near the end and Krile will save him with the two getting in better terms before they part ways. The sealed thing will be probably the Ascian we saw in first cutscenes or something Allagan ™ that the Ascians wanted. At the end it will be destroyed or left sealed by Krile and Tsunjika holding hands forward with magical beam of aether coming out. We get a thank you and we'll go our merry way.
The End

I really hope I'm wrong and there will be something more engaging and interesting in the story but if the effort they put into designing the battle content mirrors the story content, I'm not going to hold my breath for finding out whatever happened to the isle of Val.

It's a grindy grind. Smart people will wait until it is nerfed and has an actual fate train. Smarter people aren't even subbed to this game.

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Originally Posted by DuskTS

It's a grindy grind. Smart people will wait until it is nerfed and has an actual fate train. Smarter people aren't even subbed to this game.

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Or playing WoW or Warframe or getting ready for Monster hunter: World

Quick question (none of my characters actually can get into Pagos so I don't know the answer myself), I assume were upgrading our existing weapons in pagos and are we upgrading are armor again too? (if so is it a different style) Or are we just getting accessories and weapons?

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

I suppose the slow level grind doesn't seem as bad if you think of it as the replacement for the most severe parts of the zodiac/anima steps. Some of those grinds pre-nerf were extremely slow. The alternative to raid weapons has always been tedious stuff we grind begrudgingly since ARR. I think adding more interesting things to do within Eureka would probably mean sacrificing something from other parts of the game so they have more time to work on it, or longer waits between patches.

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Considering Eureka is supposed to be a highlight of Stormblood, it'd be a smarter investment to shelve something else and make it better than the disaster we currently have.

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Originally Posted by Rhus

Spent one run in there today and was surprised at the fate not giving xp right on the front door of the starting area...I know why but as a newvie you don't and think "great a fate near start" only to be disappointed.

Death penalty...why. It start it at level 22 or 23..? From the go seems harsh

Dunno how others do be it but I struggled to find groups, eventually starting one myself. When not in a group getting a res was very difficult. 3 times I died solo and 3 times I almost ran out of time before some kind soul heard my cry for help. Third was just lucky as it was at lvl 21 location so someone doing quest came and raised me as a side content lol compared to anemos which was super friendly and fun to an extent...this seems very unaccommodating and people less willing to help. Might be different after patch day but I'll leave it a few days as risk of being killed and losing xp is too high atm

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Same thought about "less-friensly". I went there and saw someone LFM, I sent him/her a tell. It was a LV 25 group, so I was about to type "sorry, I am too low, I will leave now" and got kicked without a word before I can press enter. :( At least say something like in Anemos.