4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

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Originally Posted by Lazaruz

I have enough faith to believe that they saw a demolition timer as the most sensible option to keep some fluidity going on the plots, not horrificly overload their servers, and to appease the people crying for a solution to the housing shortage atleast untill the devs maybe manages to figure out a way to transition the housing into instanced, without a massive ammount of bugs and/or glitches (or players loosing items)

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But they are not going forward with any plan to fix the system. 4.1 new ward same as old wards same system same issue. Just more time spent on it. Should just be a sticky on front page "We can't provide housing to all our player base, the end. Live with it." I would be strongly surprised and might even consider a resub if they actually provided an equal opportunity system to every player on every server. It would show that this team can admit they made a mistake and fix it and not blame 1.0 or accounting.

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Originally Posted by Elvin

2.1 probably included things that coudn't make in to the game in time.

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I vaguely recall that the first tier of the Crystal Tower raid was apparently supposed to be in ARR's release, but they had to delay it into 2.1 (which also got delayed because of it, I think).

And now I just remembered the incredibly pointless quests leading up to unlocking the raid itself... good lord, thank goodness SE has never done that again.

Are people really sore that we're only getting one new dungeon? I couldn't care less personally. Roulettes are definitely the least exciting part of the game for me. Hell gathering is more exciting.

Couldn't agree with your more Coatl.
To all who've skipped to the back page to hurl more inflammatory comments towards me, telling me to quit and such things, I'd like to you refer to my original post so that discourse might be renewed in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Coatl

Are people really sore that we're only getting one new dungeon? I couldn't care less personally. Roulettes are definitely the least exciting part of the game for me. Hell gathering is more exciting.

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I'm fine with it, so long as they introduce content to compensate as they said they would. It appears that the new PvP mode and Eureka (what I think a lot of people were looking forward to, and is the content that would have undoubtedly covered the loss of 2 dungeons) aren't quite ready yet. Which is fine, I hope they take the time to polish those so it isn't Diadem 3.0 paired with an unpopular PvP mode that is also dead on arrival. But I can see where people are coming from, it does kinda suck. Up side, there's a TON of QoL changes that the game needed. Squadrons aren't really gonna be my thing, but I'll definitely give those dungeons a go just to see how smart their AI is. I'm looking forward to the 24 man the most though. Here's hoping the gear is nice for glamour.

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Originally Posted by Alash

Couldn't agree with your more Coatl.
To all who've skipped to the back page to hurl more inflammatory comments towards me, telling me to quit and such things, I'd like to you refer to my original post so that discourse might be renewed in this thread.

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Maybe if you had actually posted a constructive thread (oh why the edit after all?) your thread would have been better received as opposed to the flame bait that it was.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Maybe if you had actually posted a constructive thread (oh why the edit after all?) your thread would have been better received as opposed to the flame bait that it was.

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Personally, I quite like to post threads that have little in the way of my own opinions outside of the topic of the thread so that I might see people's personal opinions first, untarnished by my own, before finally going back and posting my own feelings on the matter. I find that through doing this I am able to better get my points across on the subject. Often times people will post ideas that will resonate with me strongly, so that I might better articulate my own, or even ones in opposition that are worded so powerfully that I find myself agreeing with them.

Unfortunately all I walked away with this time is that World of Warcraft players are happy to get less than what we're getting, and that the community should be more like World of Warcraft players and just enjoy what they are given.

I just read the edit of the op's first post which runs down every piece of content in the game and says they all sucks / are irrelevant to people with a brain. So what do we want the game to be? Remove all casual content and put all resources into an increased amount of savage raid bosses?

A lot of people do actually like the casual and midcore content... hildibrand, alliance raid, primal ex, etc. I think you're setting an impossible standard by saying 99% of content is not good enough.

I don't know if anyone here has ever worked on a major entertainment product with millions of users but... can you imagine how hard it would be to create something that all kinds of people will love. It's a lot easier to tear down than it is to come up with a better idea.

Really, what we're actually dealing with is the two-fold issue of SE sticking to their guns on keeping with the fourteen week schedule, despite some of the planned content not yet being ready, and the heavy amount of dev time that has to go into further balancing jobs and completing a large backlog of QoL fixes.

Basically, a substancial chunk of 4.1 is intangible stuff that will help the game in the long run. It's needed, but for a player like you who *seems to me* to be focussed on raw combat progression and gear, I can absolutely see the dissapointment.

So, while there are mountains of side content and small things to work on, they don't build up your iLVL, so it's not priority. Am I on the nose?

Regarding the first half of your edited post, the purpose of odd-numbered patch content is to help people catch up so they can get ready for the current savage raid faster or the next even-numbered patch. It's also a good alternative to gear up alt jobs.

Don't expect odd-numbered patches to cater to midcore or hardcore players. It's made for casual players, who are the majority of the playerbase, so it's going to be relevant to a lot more people than non-casuals.