Target System Adjustments 1.17a -- Not Good

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nabiri

Today mine got stuck also. Though partially my fault.
I don't have a button set for emote list - so I need to add that to be able to set it back to "all." That's my fault.. but...
Here's the issue: While "friendly" (main menu button), and "enemy" (select/confirm button) work just fine, auto-run + cancel for "party" mode doesn't seem to do anything. I can't switch to party mode.
Anyone else having this issue?

Actually.. just considered the thought that I may have to be in a party to switch to party mode... Does anyone know? Can you switch to "party" target mode while not in one?

---

You have to be in a party in order to switch to party mode.

.... i love type A more then B alot after got adjust more with autorun lol.... i feel mode b become to uesless.... but ppl can choose what is best for him

I use a PS3 controler.

The problem is: I like to keep my target system on "all". I dont ever want it to change from "all". But with the 1.17a patch when I am in "tmode a" and I press "autorun" + "certain controler button" the target mode changes to "tmode b".

With this target system update there has become no purpose to have "tmode a" and "t mode b" because if you, for whatever reason, press autorun and a certain controler button you get shifted to "tmode b".

The changes are fine for people using "tmode b". I would like SE to adjust this feature to be off when in "tmode a". Again, I dont ever want my target mode to be anything other than "all" unless I type "/tmode b".

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lock_Hyur

I use a PS3 controler.

The problem is: I like to keep my target system on "all". I dont ever want it to change from "all". But with the 1.17a patch when I am in "tmode a" and I press "autorun" + "certain controler button" the target mode changes to "tmode b".

With this target system update there has become no purpose to have "tmode a" and "t mode b" because if you, for whatever reason, press autorun and a certain controler button you get shifted to "tmode b".

The changes are fine for people using "tmode b". I would like SE to adjust this feature to be off when in "tmode a". Again, I dont ever want my target mode to be anything other than "all" unless I type "/tmode b".

---

Why are you doing hitting other buttons while you're holding down the autorun button?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Why are you doing hitting other buttons while you're holding down the autorun button?

---

Excellent question.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

You have to be in a party in order to switch to party mode.

---

K, thanks. ^-^b Guess it all works fine then. I just have to make sure not to tap random buttons on accident. XD

Good job SE!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lock_Hyur

I use a PS3 controler.

The problem is: I like to keep my target system on "all". I dont ever want it to change from "all". But with the 1.17a patch when I am in "tmode a" and I press "autorun" + "certain controler button" the target mode changes to "tmode b".

With this target system update there has become no purpose to have "tmode a" and "t mode b" because if you, for whatever reason, press autorun and a certain controler button you get shifted to "tmode b".

The changes are fine for people using "tmode b". I would like SE to adjust this feature to be off when in "tmode a". Again, I dont ever want my target mode to be anything other than "all" unless I type "/tmode b".

---

Auto run is a tap key, you only need to tap it, please do not hold the auto run key while operating the rest of your controller or keyboard.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Why are you doing hitting other buttons while you're holding down the autorun button?

---

Does it matter. The fact is that I am and so are other people.

Argue all you want that I "shouldn't" be pressing autorun with other buttons it wont change the fact that I do it. And so do other people. And if it doesnt change new players that do the same thing will get frustrated and not play the game.

Its a simple fix. Id like SE to disable, or give the player the ability to disable, this so that when in "tmode a" the target will never change from "all".

Do whatever you want dude. All I'm saying is it doesn't make sense. You don't need to hold down the button, just tap it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Amsai

Yes, this was definately a great update for gamepad users. Now all we need is /assist and /targetpc and targetnpc.

---

I've been wanting <stpc> and <stnpc> for macros for a while now. I'm just not used to having an easy access switch keybind rows to reach next macro set, growing up on FFXI made me appreciate using ctrl and alt sub commands.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lock_Hyur

Does it matter. The fact is that I am and so are other people.

Argue all you want that I "shouldn't" be pressing autorun with other buttons it wont change the fact that I do it. And so do other people. And if it doesnt change new players that do the same thing will get frustrated and not play the game.

Its a simple fix. Id like SE to disable, or give the player the ability to disable, this so that when in "tmode a" the target will never change from "all".

---

I don't account for the others. My auto run is bound to the start button, meaning my right hand isn't touching anything else when I click it on.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Misha

My thoughts exactly... and why people need to HOLD DOWN auto run button to auto run when it requires just a tap is beyond me... *facepalm* They damn well near perfect the controller targeting and people bytching like mad... Tmode B was untouched and all Tmode A added was ability to access other targeting types with the added ability to select pt members and close npcs while on enemy mode lmao...

I don't even know why I'm responding to this nonsense of a thread still, guess it just gives me a good laugh at how people can never read the patch notes properly and get messed up on the stupidest things xD

---

who said anything about i was holding down autorun to lock it? i was mining then got attacked while mining. my autorun was not being used when it locked. what is so hard to understand it is glitchy and does it on its own? anything that locks your bar for no reason is a waste hence why a bug report was sent on it.

Wasn't talking specifically to any one person LoL... as for bugs they WILL happen, but the bug forum is over that way!!! No need to get all insecure, yeesh people xD lmao

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Shikaree

I've been wanting <stpc> and <stnpc> for macros for a while now. I'm just not used to having an easy access switch keybind rows to reach next macro set, growing up on FFXI made me appreciate using ctrl and alt sub commands.


I don't account for the others. My auto run is bound to the start button, meaning my right hand isn't touching anything else when I click it on.

---

and my autorun is my l3 key on my controller. ya know the thumb button which is also my direction controller. i click it once to autorun while controlling my player. when i pass by a friend i use my emote key to bow/wave or whatever and it locks. my menu is set for my start button so that is not going to be changed.

I noticed that the party member selected doesn't highlight in the party list when you cycle through them using up/down during sub targeting.

If you can fix that so it highlights I'll be a happy bunny.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sev

I noticed that the party member selected doesn't highlight in the party list when you cycle through them using up/down during sub targeting.

If you can fix that so it highlights I'll be a happy bunny.

---

Ya this is why I said it's NEAR perfect before in this thread ... this small ui issue is quite annoying and was actually what is missing for it to be perfect to me xD Not sure why this hasn't been fixed yet *^.^*

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Stuck on either what? Is that a complete sentence? Also before this update your mode didn't change when you placed your weapon away, so I don't know what you're talking about.

---

.... i thought it was obvious,... Yarget mode A & B, hence the word either.
Let me rephrase that... i want free targetting, and dont want any of the 2 optional targeting
modes getting stuck on w/e last i used after the battle has ended, in wich it does now.

If it's still unclear... after the battle has ended it stays stuck in "Enemy Mode", at this point i have to
press /tmode a & after that /tmode b yet again to go back to "Target All".
I couldnt care less as mage for enemy / friendly targeting system.

Mage / Conjurer / Thaummy.... you do 2 things, Heal & nuke.
ANd speaking from experience on my server, tanks here dont seem to know what Provoke mean.
Then again, enemity is still an issue, melee just have to focus on one thing.

I play diffrently, i like to solo & also like to do many things at once, heal when i need & nuke when i must.
Also the main reason this new "Perfect" targeting system suck dodo B*lls, especially if it gets stuck in
some damn mode i dont even have chosen.

If i want target all, then thats what i want, not enemy / nor friendly.
Now...where's that option?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lock_Hyur

I use a PS3 controler.

The problem is: I like to keep my target system on "all". I dont ever want it to change from "all". But with the 1.17a patch when I am in "tmode a" and I press "autorun" + "certain controler button" the target mode changes to "tmode b"

---

Thank god im not the only one thinking this, i sooooo agree with you.

Target All is the shitz!...and now...it's all screwed up!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by AshelyRiot

It's horrible now, why am I targeting party members when I am clearly on "enemy" ><

---

This is my problem too, why am I targeting party membors in enemy filter mode. Why even have an Enemy filter? the targeting that is most important is when you have 3 mobs all on top of each other and your trying to select the one everyeone else is attacking. I dont want to have to cycle through all party membors and enemys in sight : : not good.

Yes it was strange at first, but this change is just awesome.
I can finally press down to target myself like the old times. Left/Right for enemies and Up/Down for party members (and they are highlighted in the party menu).

SO it's perfect.

And also for ppl saying they press auto-run and other buttons and you will continue to do that because you want. It's not SE fault that you don't know how to play the game.

It's like saying you dont want to access the menu but you want to keep pressing the menu button <.<

Left/right = enemies (only), up/down = party members (only).

How is it possible to accidentally target party members when the set-up is so simple?

Unless you are talking about the system being glitchy and targetting enemies and party members at the same time in the Enemy filter mode while pressing left/right.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lock_Hyur

Does it matter. The fact is that I am and so are other people.

Argue all you want that I "shouldn't" be pressing autorun with other buttons it wont change the fact that I do it. And so do other people. And if it doesnt change new players that do the same thing will get frustrated and not play the game.

Its a simple fix. Id like SE to disable, or give the player the ability to disable, this so that when in "tmode a" the target will never change from "all".

---

Wha? The whole point of auto-run is that you can tap it and then have your hands free to do other stuff, like accessing the menu, etc. If you're going to hold down auto-run you may as well just hold down the movement keys?

Anyway, I love the new targeting update! My only gripe with it is that pressing confirm targets whatever's in-front of you regardless of which targeting filter is active; no idea whether that's a bug or not though. :s

In conclusion: Viva la /targetmode a (/'-')/

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Left/right = enemies (only), up/down = party members (only).

How is it possible to accidentally target party members when the set-up is so simple?

Unless you are talking about the system being glitchy and targetting enemies and party members at the same time in the Enemy filter mode while pressing left/right.

---

It was weird getting used to it after being used to target mode b. But nothing like a behest to make us accostumed to the new setup.

This was the best thing to happen to the controller players targeting :D

EDIT:

Quote:

---

My only gripe with it is that pressing confirm targets whatever's in-front of you regardless of which targeting filter is active; no idea whether that's a bug or not though. :s

---

Yeah I was used to it from target mode b. lol

So there you go SE, you must make /targetmodes A-Q so that each individual person can set their targetting their own special way, because how dare you make people get used to new controls!

I really love the new targeting mode. Once I get home later today I'm gonna reconfigure my controller, join a behest, and test it out some. \^-^/ Can't wait.

When you cue up a Cure spell and use UP/DOWN to select party memebers, does it now
highlight the players on the party list?

It used to highlight players' names when a spell was not cued, but not during sub-targeting.

Can anyone confirm this is fixed?

As a controller user, I can say that the new set up is simply fantastic, even with my wacky controller setup (I press down on my left control stick to autorun).

I'm torn on how they should approach the keyboard issue, however. On one hand, you want your control system to be consistent, but on the other hand, keyboard/mouse users operate far differently than those who use a controller. I'm not certain a good compromise can be found, to be honest.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SirEdeonX

Yes it was strange at first, but this change is just awesome.
I can finally press down to target myself like the old times. Left/Right for enemies and Up/Down for party members (and they are highlighted in the party menu).

SO it's perfect.

And also for ppl saying they press auto-run and other buttons and you will continue to do that because you want. It's not SE fault that you don't know how to play the game.

It's like saying you dont want to access the menu but you want to keep pressing the menu button <.<

---

yeah, i guess my multiple 50's show how little i know about the game. the point is some of us are not holding auto-run, but this glitched piece of junk release does not work properly. i have already stated my l3 button is my auto-run button i click it once to engage it......i do not hold it. i said hitting the button and using auto-run if i pass someone and wave in passing it locks it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Smashington

When you cue up a Cure spell and use UP/DOWN to select party memebers, does it now
highlight the players on the party list?

It used to highlight players' names when a spell was not cued, but not during sub-targeting.

Can anyone confirm this is fixed?

---

No highlighting for subtargetting still :(

Edit: and for all those still bytching about bugs with the new setup up... head to the **** bug forum!!! Bugs are part of video games, get over it! They WILL happen, whether you like it or not >.< It adds nothing to a discussion about the changes *facepalm* ... again *sigh*

Am I the only one who uses the mouse to target things? Want to target something? Click on it. BAM, easy as pie.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

yeah, i guess my multiple 50's show how little i know about the game. the point is some of us are not holding auto-run, but this glitched piece of junk release does not work properly. i have already stated my l3 button is my auto-run button i click it once to engage it......i do not hold it. i said hitting the button and using auto-run if i pass someone and wave in passing it locks it.

---

I'm trully sorry, Darkstar Poet. That remark was not for you. I apologize for it, cuz it seems your case is a bug.

That statement was for other ppl who clearly said they are holding down the auto-run and pushing other buttons because they want, but they dont want it to change lol

Again, I'm sorry and I do acknowledge and take the opportunity to congratulate you for your 50s :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Misha

No highlighting for subtargetting still :(

Edit: and for all those still bytching about bugs with the new setup up... head to the **** bug forum!!! Bugs are part of video games, get over it! They WILL happen, whether you like it or not >.< It adds nothing to a discussion about the changes *facepalm* ... again *sigh*

---

Thanks for the reply.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lock_Hyur

My target is constantly locking to "party" or "enemy" or "friendly" because I use auto-run a lot while pressing other buttons. Then I have to type /tmode b →　/tmode a just to get it back to "all".

I dont see what was wrong with the target system before 1.17a that they needed to change it... Do/Can we have the option to turn the new adjustments off?

---

Patch 1.17b has adjusted this issue. With "/tmode c" The targeting system now remains on "all" and doesnt change when pressing auto-run and some other buttons.

Wanted to say a "Thanks!" to SE Devs for making this adjustment.

I need to log on and try this , hopefully the changes are for better , was online before patch update and was in a party had real problems targeting with a pad before update , i hope its as good a change as some have said for pads.

On another note ,this probley going be it for target modes or will it change again when auto attack comes in ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lock_Hyur

Patch 1.17b has adjusted this issue. With "/tmode c" The targeting system now remains on "all" and doesnt change when pressing auto-run and some other buttons.

Wanted to say a "Thanks!" to SE Devs for making this adjustment.

---

At least the patch made someone happy.

I use my mouse to target :( Am I doing something wrong?