Ishgard coming after the battle changes

To speak to the original post: Abriael is pretty much right on the nose. It was stated that while there isn't a firm timeframe to share, the implementation of Ishgard, and related content, will debut after the battle fixes are introduced.

While we understand your enthusiasm to see Ishgard-related content and the upcoming battle fixes, and I know some of you want an exact year/month/day/hour/minute/second, we unfortunately don't have to share at this time.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

tell me the date, not 'as soon as possible' or 'coming up next' or 'near future'

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You've already been told that "tell me a date" doesn't work in game development. It's that simple. They will announce a date only when that date is finalyzed, not when you demand it.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

with that kind of answer, you can not stop me from asking

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Find one game developer on this planet that gives dates on releases. In fact, I'll make it easier. How about a name of any publisher that gives dates on update releases months in advance?

Honestly, you're being overly demanding and part of me wants to report your post for trolling because it's stupid to think that a game developer will come right out and give you a date. I am absolutely shocked at how much release information SE is already giving us, be happy with what we have. Tanaka could be running the show and we wouldn't even have forums if that was the case, be grateful.

Ishgard is coming after the combat update. Common sense should tell us if it was coming 3 years down the line then they wouldn't even mention it. Common sense should tell us that since they used the combat update as a measuring tool that they will be working on getting Ishgard to us one the combat system is out. Common sense should tell us that it'll probably be between 1 and 3 months after the combat update. It could possibly be a part of the full implementation of Grand Companies, who knows.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

To speak to the original post: Abriael is pretty much right on the nose. It was stated that while there isn't a firm timeframe to share, the implementation of Ishgard, and related content, will debut after the battle fixes are introduced.

While we understand your enthusiasm to see Ishgard-related content and the upcoming battle fixes, and I know some of you want an exact year/month/day/hour/minute/second, we unfortunately don't have to share at this time.

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Thank you Bayohne! The Community Reps need to ban a few people for a week or two so they can stay away from these boards and relax.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

They alway talk

this coming

that coming


CHANGE

When?

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You always talk and stay the same stuff over and over. When are you going to stop?

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Originally Posted by Ava

Find one game developer on this planet that gives dates on releases. In fact, I'll make it easier. How about a name of any publisher that gives dates on update releases months in advance?

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Actually, there are a few that do it (mostly out of panic and overreaction to community pressure, like Creative Assembly), and are hated/disrespected/flamed costantly by the community because in the majority of cases they won't be able to keep the promises they make.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

They alway talk

this coming

that coming


CHANGE

When?

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God damn I seriously start to get annoyed by your posts. What kind of life must you have that you do NOTHING but refresh the forums so you can post a /cry reply on every single topic with a positive sound.

I seriously hope Square Enix adds a button where we can remove certain users posts so we never see those ....

On topic: Nice! Looking forward to it.

Look forward to it, Evangela makes me laugh, are we there yet.... are we there yet.



... what about now ?

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Originally Posted by elkhorn

because its fucking career go flip ur fucking burgers you democrat >.>

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I don't know if you're joking but I'm a poli sci major and most people who are republican live in under populated areas with low education, so its actually not correct to assume that she flips burgers, that being said, she is a troll, I hate the way he/she talks, and I don't think that person has a college degree from the way they talk about it, its an average of 5 years for a bachelor's now a days. As a poli sci major just know I'm kinda neutral on politics with some social issue leaning democrat, but as far as the budget goes I tend to be a fiscal conservative aka republican. So Idk i'm a mixed ticket voter usually on the issues that matter since I live in a state with where the republican party went tea party [ugh] and is trying to psycho cut education lol.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

I seriously hope Square Enix adds a button where we can remove certain users posts so we never see those ....

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There's one. Click on someone's profile, and then on "add to ignore list".

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Originally Posted by Abriael

There's one. Click on someone's profile, and then on "add to ignore list".

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You are my hero Abriael! Thanks.

Funny by the way, almost all your posts could have been written by me. Our thoughts are pretty much the same on most things, its scary :P

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

To speak to the original post: Abriael is pretty much right on the nose. It was stated that while there isn't a firm timeframe to share, the implementation of Ishgard, and related content, will debut after the battle fixes are introduced.

While we understand your enthusiasm to see Ishgard-related content and the upcoming battle fixes, and I know some of you want an exact year/month/day/hour/minute/second, we unfortunately don't have to share at this time.

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This makes sense though and I figure since the battle stuff is the main priority, a lot more can begin to come after it. Even though Ishgard tempts us with her siren's song, it would be nice to get battle information soon hopefully :D

when you see my name you'll click on a button to show and read my post anyway :D

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Originally Posted by Evangela

They alway talk

this coming

that coming


CHANGE

When?

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Couldn't agree with you more

yeah, but sadly... a lot of people don't want to listen to the truth

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Originally Posted by Evangela

yeah, but sadly... a lot of people don't want to listen to the truth

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truth has nothing to do with it, it is already acknowledged that they dont give specific dates, you where just given reasons why. Why is this so hard to comprehend for you?

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

To speak to the original post: Abriael is pretty much right on the nose. It was stated that while there isn't a firm timeframe to share, the implementation of Ishgard, and related content, will debut after the battle fixes are introduced.

While we understand your enthusiasm to see Ishgard-related content and the upcoming battle fixes, and I know some of you want an exact year/month/day/hour/minute/second, we unfortunately don't have to share at this time.

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Thanks for your continued support Bayohne. I think when the new Dev team first got started it was probably impractical to create a timeline of expected content/fix releases. However, now the new Dev team has had almost 5 months, shouldn't they have a better idea about the capabilities of their teams and when to expect new content and fixes? Obviously its impractical to pinpoint which days/weeks to expect content, but it should be possible to say what month or quarter. I think many of us would be put at ease if a schedule (similar to the one released for FFXI) was created for FF14. Yoshi-P created a letter just to clarify that the devs are working on other things besides events, but for most players its really hard to see that when all we are given are ambiguous statements.

I really think a rough timeline on when to expect new battle system, armor system, end game dungeon, Ishgard, improved crafting system, etc. would help tremendously.

Just my two cents!

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

Thanks for your continued support Bayohne. I think when the new Dev team first got started it was probably impractical to create a timeline of expected content/fix releases. However, now the new Dev team has had almost 5 months, shouldn't they have a better idea about the capabilities of their teams and when to expect new content and fixes? Obviously its impractical to pinpoint which days/weeks to expect content, but it should be possible to say what month or quarter. I think many of us would be put at ease if a schedule (similar to the one released for FFXI) was created for FF14. Yoshi-P created a letter just to clarify that the devs are working on other things besides events, but for most players its really hard to see that when all we are given are ambiguous statements.

I really think a rough timeline on when to expect new battle system, armor system, end game dungeon, Ishgard, improved crafting system, etc. would help tremendously.

Just my two cents!

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seems like the current theme is season which could equate to quarters I guess.

Hello Bayohne, hello Rukkirii.

What I think everyone would like to know is if there are any other areas and/or regions currently developed, but not yet implemented? Ishgard is the most obvious one as we can see it in the Coerthas already, and you have mentioned that areas designed for raid content has been planned, but there are currently many regions in the world map that could be opened in the future, such as O'ghomoro, Dravania(?) as well as other regions surrounding the city-states. Are these simply waiting for content to be added to them, or should we expect to see them in the coming months at all?

If you can inform us about this in some form, it would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

truth has nothing to do with it, it is already acknowledged that they dont give specific dates, you where just given reasons why. Why is this so hard to comprehend for you?

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then why not?

timeline can give people hope

didn't they have producer letters to keep people continue playing with hope?

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Originally Posted by Evangela

then why not?

timeline can give people hope

didn't they have producer letters to keep people continue playing with hope?

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really? how about you go back through this thread and read why not.

edit: you where asking for specific dates, they already give timelines which is not specific dates. they say things like this summer, winter, fall, etc.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

yeah, but sadly... a lot of people don't want to listen to the truth

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Follow your own advice.

The truth is: Things take time. Period.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Hello Bayohne, hello Rukkirii.

What I think everyone would like to know is if there are any other areas and/or regions currently developed, but not yet implemented? Ishgard is the most obvious one as we can see it in the Coerthas already, and you have mentioned that areas designed for raid content has been planned, but there are currently many regions in the world map that could be opened in the future, such as O'ghomoro, Dravania(?) as well as other regions surrounding the city-states. Are these simply waiting for content to be added to them, or should we expect to see them in the coming months at all?

If you can inform us about this in some form, it would be appreciated.

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Like this one you mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Ww9...ailpage#t=157s

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

Thanks for your continued support Bayohne. I think when the new Dev team first got started it was probably impractical to create a timeline of expected content/fix releases. However, now the new Dev team has had almost 5 months, shouldn't they have a better idea about the capabilities of their teams and when to expect new content and fixes? Obviously its impractical to pinpoint which days/weeks to expect content, but it should be possible to say what month or quarter. I think many of us would be put at ease if a schedule (similar to the one released for FFXI) was created for FF14. Yoshi-P created a letter just to clarify that the devs are working on other things besides events, but for most players its really hard to see that when all we are given are ambiguous statements.

I really think a rough timeline on when to expect new battle system, armor system, end game dungeon, Ishgard, improved crafting system, etc. would help tremendously.

Just my two cents!

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When you implement content that needs to be tested extensively in-house, not only you don't know *for sure* when that content will be finished until you're quite near to finishing it (since the synergie between different teams are complex, and often if something goes wrong within a team, it delays the work of other teams as well, in a cascade reaction), but you also have to take in account the very concrete possibility that the finished content will go to the QA team for internal testing, some critical bug, problem or incompatibility is found, and the whole piece of content/system needs to go back to development in order to be fixed. Then it needs to go back to QA in order to be tested again (and they cannot *just* test the fix, but they need to test much more extensively to make sure that the fix itself didn't cause other bugs or incompatibilities) and so forth.

The problem with announcing timeframes early in this conditions is that most gamers do NOT know or aknowledge the above problems, and take a missed timeframe as a broken promise, resorting to venting their frustration by flaming the developer or even quitting.
That's why not announcing timeframe until such timeframes are set in stone is a golden rule, and you won't see SE breaking it. Yoshida himself said, in one of his first interviews, that he's simply not going to make promises until he is sure that he can keep them.

Hello Everyone,

As two of our Community Reps have already provided answers to the questions and due to the off topic posts, we are going to go ahead and close this thread.

Thank you for your understanding.

-Senior Game Master Jhanaka