Layman's terms

This is true.

However, Let's say ARR is a restaurant. And on release, this is what it looks like-

http://i.imgur.com/HGsfX.jpg

Then it will be popular! Notin wrong with that, 10 billion served!

Well that depends. If enough people live and work near by it'll do just fine. However if its out of the way, you don't already live in the area and none of your friends live in the area, why go here when you get the same experience without going out of your way? It'll happen, but I doubt it would support the restaurant financially.

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

Then it will be popular! Notin wrong with that, 10 billion served!

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Sense when has not mcdonalds served over 10 billion?
Every mimic fails to capture the popularity of the original...well...most of the time.
http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/ar...148238.jpg?v=1

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

http://www.classifiedkentucky.com/ad...2b796afc3b.jpg

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Made me LOL so freaking hard.

I like the analogy, but now I'm hungry. There had better be a sandwich at launch or I'm calling shenanigans.

SE GIVE US CHEESE SANDWICH IN ARR!!!

/ffxi

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Originally Posted by Lemmiwinks

When is the last time a sandwich maker handed you that pile of bread and meat and said "here please take a bite and give me feedback"... cause THAT is what alpha is. The devs ask for feedback and people should give it to them.

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There is a forum extra for alpha feedback. All what we can do is give video feedback in the video threads ^^

i know this was directed at the people who jumped the gun with alpha and whatnot... but now i am hungry.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...dwich_%2B1.JPG

But... But I'm vegetarian. D:

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

This sandwich is in alpha......

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Well done. Loved it.

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Originally Posted by Kirol

But... But I'm vegetarian. D:

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I saw veggies in the pic, just yank that meat out.

I'll take the meat <.< I'm pretty hungry

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Originally Posted by Kirol

But... But I'm vegetarian. D:

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Well if you don't really like a meaty MMO, go play Runescape.... ;)

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Originally Posted by Lemmiwinks

This is analogous of free trials. She is handing you a sample of a finished product. She is not the producer of said product asking for feedback on a product in development. Sorry the analogies are way off.

Edit: Companies do focus groups all the time to test peoples reaction to their unfinished products. This is the best analogy I can come up with. And I am sure there is some negative feedback from time to time in those too...

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I just thought about this, isn't bread and processed meat a finished product? It's just not a sandwich. I know we already settled it but this occurred to me last night and i wanted to put that out there.

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Originally Posted by Pseudopsia

You just need bacon to make everything perfect. So what's the bacon equivalent in MMORPGs?

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This. This is the answer. The only answer.

A+ thread, would re-read it.

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Originally Posted by Siegtaru

This. This is the answer. The only answer.

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http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...psec8d1bc8.jpg

Bacon is gross

Bacon strips, and bacon strips and Bacon strips smothered in a Jack Daniel's sauce!




http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw...b3npo1_500.jpg

http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-...con-strips.png

http://chzsomuchpun.files.wordpress....24bfb04deb.jpg

http://cdn2.mamapop.com/wp-content/u...me-600x450.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Bacon is gross

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:O BLASPHEMER!

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Bacon is gross

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http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/a...V-ONoSNQ_4.jpg

I think this says it all....

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

This sandwich is in alpha
http://static3.depositphotos.com/100...at--slices.jpg

"Boo! This sandwhich is so bland, who would want to pay for that! Its terrible! You gotta fix it!"

(the confused sandwich maker gives you an odd look and continues making you your sandwich)

This is release day sandwich

http://mountainexpressmagazine.com/w...andwhiches.jpg

"OMG this is the best sandwich ever! I'm so glad they listened to me or else this sandwich would have turned out like shit! It would be nice if they had some honey mustard, or maybe some roast beef but all in all good sandwich"

(the still confused sandwich maker continues to look puzzled "This is what i was going to make all along, I just showed you the bread and meat so you could tell me if it looked cooked enough. You would like some mustard and meat, well i can easily slip that in now that you have your sandwich")

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...azs1u8nshBqEqg

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I noticed the bread was different on the finished product. Bread is a fundamental ingredient of a sandwich . Was it changed due to user feedback?

Nope, the sammich maker looked at your apatite and decided the bread wouldnt be able to hold enough toppings to satiate the ravenous hunger of the masses. The sammich maker already planned on using bread that would be better suited to the sammich but the people were crying cause they were so hungry and wanted a sample so he gave them what he had ready at the time, but people still bitched....


This is entertaining, too bad I didn't have any popcorn. Just me and my bowl of chips!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...28975344_n.jpg

LMAO, those are my kind of chips!

ya, my boss is aspiring to be a professional photographer and I had the idea for that pic. I set up the bowl, the ram, and the dip and in three pics we had gold! Now you know what my ugly mug looks like. Incoming haters~!

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

ya, my boss is aspiring to be a professional photographer and I had the idea for that pic. I set up the bowl, the ram, and the dip and in three pics we had gold! Now you know what my ugly mug looks like. Incoming haters~!

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Doesn't count unless you eat them all.

Bacon!!! *crunch-crunch*

I'm allergic to pork so mines has to be turkey. :D

I think the "bacon" will be the story in ARR.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Well the analogy is bad, because this customer would be screaming that the bread shouldn't be bread, but rather some stale medieval-era porridge and the meat should basically be the chewy, stringy scraps of meat from the decades-old cow that just died from disease.

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This but unironically.

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

ya, my boss is aspiring to be a professional photographer and I had the idea for that pic. I set up the bowl, the ram, and the dip and in three pics we had gold! Now you know what my ugly mug looks like. Incoming haters~!

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You have a seriously awesome stache my friend!

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Originally Posted by Pseudopsia

You just need bacon to make everything perfect. So what's the bacon equivalent in MMORPGs?

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To me Bacon equivalent is a sandbox environment! Total Freedom.
But we kinda had that with 1.0 no? but ppl cried and said the classes were not individual enough!
You can't tell who the healer/tank/DD is?

You know the "Trinity" that so many MMO's have been trying to break to be innovative! Well you get it, and now you want structure! So the put in job classes which somehow made the game more Final Fantasy!

Oh the Irony!

TBH, I like the job classes, would be even more interesting if they include XI's sub jobs, or offer a bit more flexibility than only using 2 classes of skills.
Maybe they could add more skills.

Or they could make Paladin with Healing, Damage, and Tanking disciplines. So that job classes would be a bit more flexible. However they would need to do a search for that when you are searching for a party. Because it would be annoying to get a Paladin but he's not spec'd to be Tank. or healer as you were expecting :P

Point is, nobody is happy with what they have and want what the can't have!