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Originally Posted by KiriA500

I've made due this entire time with what's available to me, and I'll make due in A Realm Reborn. I'm well aware that nothing I actually want to be added will be, because frankly, it's unrealistic.

I'm mostly just ranting because the Roegadyn emotes all make the race look like they're clumsy idiots. It's the only race I want to play as, so I have to suck it up. My crap is just wishful thinking.

And for the record, I felt the same way with Galka in FFXI, yet I played it for 6+ years. I can get past this stuff, but I can still want them to be different.

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You're right, I'm just the man trying to keep the Roegadyn down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS1cLOIxsQ8

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

I've made due this entire time with what's available to me, and I'll make due in A Realm Reborn. I'm well aware that nothing I actually want to be added will be, because frankly, it's unrealistic.

I'm mostly just ranting because the Roegadyn emotes all make the race look like they're clumsy idiots. It's the only race I want to play as, so I have to suck it up. My crap is just wishful thinking.

And for the record, I felt the same way with Galka in FFXI, yet I played it for 6+ years. I can get past this stuff, but I can still want them to be different.

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Fair enough. If you don't like the emotes you get, not much to be said for that. Not like you can be forced to like something you don't heheh. I suppose the request could be made to make the existing emotes a bit more expressive, maybe a bit more comical or exaggerated in some cases. I love how Roegadynn fall asleep, for example. Just on the bed and... -plop- into the pillow.

There's a lot that can be done without having to resort to bringing in real world pop-culture references, which really aren't about the character at all.. it's about the meme. If a character is doing the macarena, it's not "entertaining" because of the character doing it.. it's funny because everyone recognizes it. So, personally, if I were looking to get more character/personality for my chosen race, I'd just be asking for SE to do more interesting things within the context of the game world itself.

That's just me, though. I prefer as much internal consistency in a game world as possible. The moment real world references start to become more "in my face" (fortunately, they haven't yet in XIV, though I've seen them), the game's world/setting loses some of its own identity and 'attachment' for me.

I will say - on a serious note - I was thinking about your Tax Accountant remark and, while I know you were being facetious when you said it, I think that would be hilarious. If I was in Gridania or where ever, standing around or what-not and some character comes up and starts going on this Tax routine or something, I'd think that was awesome, personally. I'd most definitely play along. But then, I'm a huge fan of people really getting into their characters and doing fun/random stuff with them.

I wouldn't discount something like that lol. Could even make a name for yourself!

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Originally Posted by Felis

A dance like this as /dance2 wouldn't be bad for Miqo'te
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO1rP...ilpage#t=2064s (look at the Miqo'te)

Or something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baJpk...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9spcns-A18U&hd=1

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That dance the miqo'te does in that cutscene would really be awesome as their dance emote :3
I never made it to Armorer lvl 30, think I was at 24 when the character save hit. I leveled all DoH in 5 lvl increments at a time :p

Hey! you guys stop being mean. :P What we need to talk about is MOAR DANCING!

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Originally Posted by Felis

A dance like this as /dance2 wouldn't be bad for Miqo'te
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO1rP...ilpage#t=2064s (look at the Miqo'te)

Or something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baJpk...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9spcns-A18U&hd=1

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Wow, that was great stuff. It would be interesting if they actually hired a dance choreographer or someone that could actually come up with new dances based on the world setting, type of music that probably exists , instruments used, etc.

I don't know anything about dance ...can't dance to save my life, but I'm sure someone does hehe

for real this dance that all the race have are so awful i mean seriously other game have much better dance then this, and if you making a good game now dont forget to add those things that people like to do when they achieve something nice so PLEASE give us better dance :) and more emotions :D

ugh my Elezen Male dance move looks like hes shaking ants off his feet, i would vote hell no to pop culture, but hell yes to anything unique and more alive

no WoW like dances please.

the current ones are fine.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

no WoW like dances please.

the current ones are fine.

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Really? The current ones are fine? They're so lifeless and downright awful it's almost painful to watch. I'm not asking for "WoW like" dances. I'm asking for dances with actual life and passion.

I like that they had dances in XI that were shared by all races and sexes, regardless. It would only make sense, considering how many generations the races of Eorzea have shared a culture by now.

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Originally Posted by Talshara_Blade

It would be interesting if they actually hired a dance choreographer or someone that could actually come up with new dances based on the world setting, type of music that probably exists, instruments used, etc.

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Couldn't agree more, that would be pretty awesome.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Really? The current ones are fine? They're so lifeless and downright awful it's almost painful to watch. I'm not asking for "WoW like" dances. I'm asking for dances with actual life and passion.

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Yes. Really. The current ones are fine.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

Yes. Really. The current ones are fine.

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You mean to tell me that you think THIS is perfectly fine and acceptable? If you really do then I guess there's really no convincing someone with no dance taste.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

You mean to tell me that you think THIS is perfectly fine and acceptable? If you really do then I guess there's really no convincing someone with no dance taste.

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Well what would you expect a big bulky creature to do as dance? Do you want them to do the robot to cheapen the game?

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Originally Posted by Lapulapu

An Irish Jig wasn't really my idea of a fun up to date dance for my avatar to do but I would love something sexy? funny? at least up to date with world culture today... It might be cool to do a ball room dance with your friend if you request a dance? or have group dance like /join party or /join dance? Just an idea.

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Hey, I'm Irish and I LOVED the Irish Jig in the game. They just need to flesh it out more. And there should not be a River Dance version of it like they have it on WoW... And Irish dancing is one of the best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjyljC5fSeU At the middle of the video. I saw them in concert but the guy doing the Irish dancing was different. You could see the dust in the air when the dancer performed on the board. But yeah, don't knock off Irish dancing. They just need to improve it in ARR :)

Out of all the emotes only a few are actually good. /pose for most races and gender work rather well, but you get to dance and well, they are all kinda "robotic" lacking any energy to them. Roe Dance makes me giggle every time I see it cause it looks like they are trying to "dance" but are too focused on form rather then the energy of the dance. Why do people dance? Cause it's fun and exciting. Give us dances that show our fun and excitement when we are dancing; maybe even give us multiple dances. I might not dance myself but I can tell most people are having fun when they are dancing.

Just give us like 4 types of dances:

Dance 1 = Racial Dance
Dance 2 = Swing Dance
Dance 3 = Disco Dance
Dance 4 = Rock 'n Roll Head banging

SE could do some dances from around the world, like, India, Egypt, etc.

Yeah yeah, I know that /dance# was in FFXI, but it worked.

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Originally Posted by Lapulapu

An Irish Jig wasn't really my idea of a fun up to date dance for my avatar to do but I would love something sexy? funny? at least up to date with world culture today... It might be cool to do a ball room dance with your friend if you request a dance? or have group dance like /join party or /join dance? Just an idea.

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Sexism and gear too lewd threads would like a word with you

YATTA!


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Now i'll admit I don't mind the Miqo'te dance at all ...just wish it looped, with a little more flare/switch up to make it longer.

hahaha! i don't care for dances i just want some adjustments to the over exaggerated emotes that make my supposed beastly Paladin look like a little girl waving to the ice cream truck.

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045...4983924224.gif

So....quick question, what movie is this from? I obviously need to watch this as soon as possible, because honestly the greatest mystery in my life has now approached me....what in God's name is the buildup to that scene? What compels a man to wear such an outfit, put on an awesome headpiece, and then dance like that in front of a crowd? I must know!

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Originally Posted by Sleverin

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045...4983924224.gif

So....quick question, what movie is this from? I obviously need to watch this as soon as possible, because honestly the greatest mystery in my life has now approached me....what in God's name is the buildup to that scene? What compels a man to wear such an outfit, put on an awesome headpiece, and then dance like that in front of a crowd? I must know!

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That's from LMFAO's video for "Party Rock Anthem." It's in the scene where everyone is showing off their sweet dance moves, leading up to Shufflebot rocking all their faces!

Honestly having new dances that are lively would be great and if nothing else it would be nice to have the /dance1, /dance2, etc. again. Just having one dance is okay but it makes the game a bit more fun when you have more to work with in the actual actions not just text area of what your character can do/is doing. Maybe it's just silly but I had fun going around in XI with my dance routines as a Mithra. The fact that I could type in a new dance mid air and make it look like a completely different dance springing into new steps is one of the things I loved to do in the down time I had waiting for friends. Not to mention I got a few good cheers and some gil for it too which made it more fun that I had an audience who also seemed to find it entertaining. I realize that XIV is a completely different game and that ARR will be even more different than the previously mentioned so with all of the progress they have made in other areas I'm can only hope the dances (and dance selections) will be just as different.

Regardless of if they are going to make new dances or not this is just my opinion and I hope sincerely that this thread is reviewed and at least a few of the ideas are considered if nothing else just to have there be different dances for all of the races.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

You mean to tell me that you think THIS is perfectly fine and acceptable? If you really do then I guess there's really no convincing someone with no dance taste.

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Considering it's a big, bulky race that doesn't exactly give the impression of being "light on their feet", I think it works well enough. Looking at a number of their emotes, they seem to carry that same sense of "weight". They're not exactly lithe or limber like a Miqo'te or even an Elezen. Could SE put a little more "oomph" into it? Sure. But they could do that with what's there now.. they don't need to start bringing in real world meme dances like some are suggesting.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

Considering it's a big, bulky race that doesn't exactly give the impression of being "light on their feet", I think it works well enough. Looking at a number of their emotes, they seem to carry that same sense of "weight". They're not exactly lithe or limber like a Miqo'te or even an Elezen. Could SE put a little more "oomph" into it? Sure. But they could do that with what's there now.. they don't need to start bringing in real world meme dances like some are suggesting.

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Roegadyn are limber enough to do a flip while using Gorging Blade, jump into the a good 6 feet for Aura Pulse, jump into the air and shoot arrows downward with Wide Volley, twirl around several times with an axe with Steel Cyclone, perform a backflip to reduce enmity with Elusive Jump, punch an enemy several times including a flip attack with Simian Thrash, etc., yet they're not capable of perform any kind of dance aside from clomping their GIGANTIC MEATY LIMBS ON THE GROUND HULK SMASH?

Our /happy emote has us bouncing all over the place (it's one of the very few emotes I actually enjoy), why can't more do this?

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Originally Posted by Kaizuko_Hakupac

ugh my Elezen Male dance move looks like hes shaking ants off his feet, i would vote hell no to pop culture, but hell yes to anything unique and more alive

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Yes, the male elezen dance need an upgrade.
Maybe somehow like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...9JLzWog#t=101s (the left dancer)

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Roegadyn are limber enough to do a flip while using Gorging Blade, jump into the a good 6 feet for Aura Pulse, jump into the air and shoot arrows downward with Wide Volley, twirl around several times with an axe with Steel Cyclone, perform a backflip to reduce enmity with Elusive Jump, punch an enemy several times including a flip attack with Simian Thrash, etc., yet they're not capable of perform any kind of dance aside from clomping their GIGANTIC MEATY LIMBS ON THE GROUND HULK SMASH?

Our /happy emote has us bouncing all over the place (it's one of the very few emotes I actually enjoy), why can't more do this?

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lol I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Calm down.

First of all, the attacks you're describing are the same for all races (with some variation). Those are weapon skills or special combat maneuvers tied to Classes/Jobs, not race. Several of them only occur when a high amount of "energy" (TP) is built up. Otherwise they have a cool-down. They're not emotes done when casually standing around and relaxed. I'd hardly put emotes and WS's/Combat Moves in the same category.

I get it. The Roegadynn emotes are too stiff and lifeless for you. That's why I said put a bit more "oomph" into them, but keep them looking appropriate for the race (maintain that sense of weight and size).

Seeing a huge brick wall of a character bouncing around with the same lithe grace of a Miqo'te who's a fraction of their size and weight would look ridiculous.

More poignantly and on-topic, please no real world meme-style dances. Keep it unique to the world/cultures of FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

Well what would you expect a big bulky creature to do as dance? Do you want them to do the robot to cheapen the game?

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Did I say that? No. I said that the current dances are unacceptable. Big and bulky as they are, as KiriA has mentioned, they're capable of doing some pretty incredible acrobatics in other parts of the game. They could have a dance that suits them but it should be better than that. I would hardly even qualify that as a dance. It's just an awkward shuffling of the feet.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Did I say that? No. I said that the current dances are unacceptable. Big and bulky as they are, as KiriA has mentioned, they're capable of doing some pretty incredible acrobatics in other parts of the game. They could have a dance that suits them but it should be better than that. I would hardly even qualify that as a dance. It's just an awkward shuffling of the feet.

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Again, those are combat maneuvers tied to jobs/classes and shared across all races, requiring a build-up of "energy" (TP) to perform. Or, they have cool-downs, which (in a lore perspective, not gameplay mechanics/balance) would indicate they require more energy at once than any character, regardless of race, is capable of mustering in quick succession.

Emotes are race-specific and are more in line with the culture/personality/physicality of the race itself. Roegadynn are a huge, hulking mass. They're a walking brick-house. They are not going to have the flexibility or "light toes" of a smaller, lighter race. Watching their emotes, they seem to be just about what I would expect from a race of their composition, though I will agree some can use some livening up.

Can SE push the Roeg emotes a bit more? Absolutely, I'm sure they could. I would expect that, whatever SE does, it would still be less "animated" than what you'd see from a Miqo'te or Lalafell, or even a highlander.

For miqo'te should be sexy dance ..why not http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=susgh...eature=related

Lollllllllllll

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Originally Posted by Felis

Yes, the male elezen dance need an upgrade.
Maybe somehow like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...9JLzWog#t=101s (the left dancer)

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With that dance he wouldn't be shaking off ants he would be stomping them XD!!!

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Originally Posted by YeaniNah

For miqo'te should be sexy dance ..why not http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=susgh...eature=related

Lollllllllllll

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Asians trying to be Beyonce? lol

While I agree that the animations could be cleaned up, I DONT want some WoW dances or anything.. I'd like them to remain friendly to the mood of the game.

Edit: A few Elezen animations come to mind that could use a dash of enthusiasm.

ffs people... just ffs.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

lol I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. Calm down.

First of all, the attacks you're describing are the same for all races (with some variation). Those are weapon skills or special combat maneuvers tied to Classes/Jobs, not race. Several of them only occur when a high amount of "energy" (TP) is built up. Otherwise they have a cool-down. They're not emotes done when casually standing around and relaxed. I'd hardly put emotes and WS's/Combat Moves in the same category.

I get it. The Roegadynn emotes are too stiff and lifeless for you. That's why I said put a bit more "oomph" into them, but keep them looking appropriate for the race (maintain that sense of weight and size).

Seeing a huge brick wall of a character bouncing around with the same lithe grace of a Miqo'te who's a fraction of their size and weight would look ridiculous.

More poignantly and on-topic, please no real world meme-style dances. Keep it unique to the world/cultures of FFXIV.

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So, simply because we're a bigger than Miqo'te, we have to be slow. I'm not asking to have Roegadyn bounce around like 14 year old Japanese girls, that's already taken. We can still have a little energy.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qT7I30qesJ...FXIV+races.JPG

We're barely taller than Elezen, we just have more muscle mass. we don't have to be the hulking brute race simply because we have big muscles.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

So, simply because we're a bigger than Miqo'te, we have to be slow. I'm not asking to have Roegadyn bounce around like 14 year old Japanese girls, that's already taken. We can still have a little energy.

We're barely taller than Elezen, we just have more muscle mass. we don't have to be the hulking brute race simply because we have big muscles.

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omg.. seriously?

I have already agreed that some of the Roegadyn emotes could use a bit more "oomph", as in, energy, animation, etc. I am mostly agreeing with you, for crying out loud. It's only the specific implementation that I disagree on. What are you still carrying on about it for?

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now? Looking for any little detail you can find to argue over, just to keep it going? Seriously. I feel like I'm just being trolled at this point.

That said, Yes... because you are a huge, hulking mass of muscle that is easily several times heavier and more massive than a Miqo'te, I don't expect you'd be able to move with the same kind of grace or fluidity or speed as one. It would look ridiculously out of place. I'm pretty sure I already said that... and, unless you've been living under a rock for your entire life, I shouldn't have to explain why.

What exactly are you even trying to prove at this point? You've stated your case, several times now. I agree with you on some parts of it, but not on others. We'll agree to disagree on those. Capisce? Or are you going to find some other detail to nit-pick into another argument now?

Good freaking grief.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Yes, the male elezen dance need an upgrade.
Maybe somehow like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...9JLzWog#t=101s (the left dancer)

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One of the Hyurs already does that. And its appropriate feeling. No so much for a lumbering Elezen.

I rly wouldnt call FFXIV 1.0 /dance dancing they are more like steps, even FFXI had more of a dance with the dancers moves, i liked some of the dance that aion had,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DygWszCXLw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UJKwgAlKpE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FtaxnpdB9s

Lazy Casuals!....in FF MMO you make your own /dance move...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtgwWlROVEFFXI Nofrog Linkshell Caitsith (Nom Nom Nom Nom Dance)



or maybe you prefer this?

[MMD] Groovy Dancin' Firi - FFXI Style