If Spearfising Gone.... Spearfishing Achievements Gone?

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings!

Apologies that information on spearfishing achievements was not included previously, as many of you are curious as to what will happen. Since spearfishing is being removed from the game when A Realm Reborn rolls around, it will also no longer be possible to complete spearfishing achievements. We will add this to the list when we release the topics announcement we are currently working on, outlining various aspects of change.

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Alas, it's a shame to see anything from my favourite class go. At least I got the prettiest title in game before it disappears. Thanks for the heads up ^^.

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

Alas, it's a shame to see anything from my favourite class go. At least I got the prettiest title in game before it disappears. Thanks for the heads up ^^.

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I don't think FSH is going away, just spear fishing.

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Originally Posted by Empyrean

I don't think FSH is going away, just spear fishing.

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He knows. He said 'its a shame to see anything from my favorite class go,' not 'it's a shame to see my favorite class go.'

anyway, some other secondary tool function is most likely going to take its place eventually (since secondary tools aren't going away), we shall see what it is in time.

I'm concerned that the list of removed achievements in ARR has been published twice and this hasn't been mentioned at all until it pops up on the Japanese forums. Takes a playerbase-created thread and discussion for a dev to stop by and confirm it, offhandedly. Wondering what the next surprise is...

Square-Enix, you need to give people adequate notice if you are removing these things, since some of them take a considerable amount of time to do and not everyone has all day to dedicate to this. We appreciate you're busy working on ARR, but please give us a heads-up. That's all we ask.

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Originally Posted by Applesnap

I'm concerned that the list of removed achievements in ARR has been published twice and this hasn't been mentioned at all until it pops up on the Japanese forums. Takes a playerbase-created thread and discussion for a dev to stop by and confirm it, offhandedly. Wondering what the next surprise is...

Square-Enix, you need to give people adequate notice if you are removing these things, since some of them take a considerable amount of time to do and not everyone has all day to dedicate to this. We appreciate you're busy working on ARR, but please give us a heads-up. That's all we ask.

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You've gotten a heads up. The list has been posted, it has been updated once, and Camate just let you know it will be updated again. What more do you want?

Unfortunately, plans change sometimes and thus there's no way to know about these things until they happen. Maybe next week they'll decide to remove behest from the game, and people are going to complain that they don't have enough notice to complete those achievements even though it's already basically impossible to do so in the amount of time we have left. Honestly, there's no skin off your back if an unachievable achievement gets removed....

Even if you're really hardcore about achievements, I don't understand how this can upset people this much. Just accept that they're being removed and use the time to work towards another achievement you haven't done yet. You are NOT going to be able to achieve every achievement before 1.0 shuts down- That's just impossible. (100 million gil from enemies? 10k behests? If you have achieved these, I'll give you a medal myself.)

A Challenger Approaches...

Some RMT might have those behest achievements =p

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You are NOT going to be able to achieve every achievement before 1.0 shuts down- That's just impossible. (100 million gil from enemies? 10k behests? If you have achieved these, I'll give you a medal myself.)

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The concern they have isn't about completing every achievement before 1.xx ends. Some of the levequest achievements actually take years of constant levequesting to complete. However, there is time to finish the ones that are going away, provided you are informed about them more than a few days before they shut the servers down.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You've gotten a heads up. The list has been posted, it has been updated once, and Camate just let you know it will be updated again. What more do you want?

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I thought I stated what I wanted, which is more of a heads-up for what we are getting removed. Plans change, but at this late stage, they shouldn't change that much.

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Originally Posted by PalidorCarbuncle

*Wah wah wahhhhhhh* Alhanelem. I called this. Thank you for the update Camate! It's a good thing I spent all weekend spearfishing and dodging GF aggro ;-)

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Holy shit Palidor~ Haha Small world.....

So not cool..

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings!

Apologies that information on spearfishing achievements was not included previously, as many of you are curious as to what will happen. Since spearfishing is being removed from the game when A Realm Reborn rolls around, it will also no longer be possible to complete spearfishing achievements. We will add this to the list when we release the topics announcement we are currently working on, outlining various aspects of change.

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Nowhere NEAR good enough I'm sorry!

I'm struggling to understand why there are a lot of things in this game that are so secretive? Like this?

What's to say this won't happen again much more in the future? What a severe lack of communication.....I can't believe something like this was NOT mentioned in an official post (without having to trawl, mine, dig and spearfish!) my way to an official response that most likely 90% of players won't have any clue about....but once it gets taken out, watch the backlash. lol

Even if you play casually, you can get all the spearfishing achievements in about a week.
There really is no reason to panic.

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Originally Posted by NationOfZealots

Nowhere NEAR good enough I'm sorry!

I'm struggling to understand why there are a lot of things in this game that are so secretive? Like this?

What's to say this won't happen again much more in the future? What a severe lack of communication.....I can't believe something like this was NOT mentioned in an official post (without having to trawl, mine, dig and spearfish!) my way to an official response that most likely 90% of players won't have any clue about....but once it gets taken out, watch the backlash. lol

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gimme a break. What's not good enough about it? What more do you want? They aren't being secretive at all. They've flat out said: Spearfishing will be removed and therefore so will the achievements. What more information do you need? Once the list is updated you'll have the specific achievements, but any logical deduction and common sense will tell you exactly which achievements will disappear without them even needing to tell you.

There has been no lack of communication here. If something like this happens again, you will be told, with the usual delay for translation that always exists whenever new news hits- such delays are unavoidable. They aren't withholding information, they don't have any desire to ruin your quest for achievements, there's no conspiracy, etc.

You realize that the community reps in most cases are likely sleeping / not at work when news hits sometimes? Therefore, there isn't going to be an immediate translation of JP news.

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Originally Posted by XavierBlade

Holy shit Palidor~ Haha Small world.....

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Heck yeah man, I am eternal. Well, at least until I die. And as you can see, I still troll the trolls! Defender of the weak! How you been man?

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Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss

Even if you play casually, you can get all the spearfishing achievements in about a week.
There really is no reason to panic.

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1180 more pokes until :D Though I empathise with those:

a) not at FSH50 (its my only non DoWM @ 50 TFG)
b) if you play eg 2hrs a day, only to realise due to the lacklustre delivery in this specific update it may not give enough time to get them all/all the biggies/most/some of those achievements
c) who have not started spearfishing at all

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WHAT, I can no longer spearfish the dirt!? My fisher was born to catch colored pots and scorpions!!

. . . Seriously, I never got spearfishing.. At least move it to the water near school of fish.

I'm curious whats going to happen to the fishing class though. Got my fisher to 50 recently, thank god for leves. Please dont screw my class over :P lol

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings!

Apologies that information on spearfishing achievements was not included previously, as many of you are curious as to what will happen. Since spearfishing is being removed from the game when A Realm Reborn rolls around, it will also no longer be possible to complete spearfishing achievements. We will add this to the list when we release the topics announcement we are currently working on, outlining various aspects of change.

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On that note, are the quarrying/harvesting achievements going to be removed as well, or just spearfishing?

And what am I going to do with my Militia Gig?

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Originally Posted by Rosalie

On that note, are the quarrying/harvesting achievements going to be removed as well, or just spearfishing?

And what am I going to do with my Militia Gig?

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They're only removing spearfishing. they're not removing quarrying or harvesting.

Secondary tools are not being removed, so my only guess is whatever the new activity is, you'll use the same tool, just in a different way (again, just a guess)

My main question is
"Do the point we got from those achievement will be carried on or not?"

is it's not that's cool
but if its yes like the ones in the list they showed us then that's the problem
i know many who focused on behest and leves after the list released
aiming for both the titles and "points"

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Originally Posted by Hamada

My main question is
"Do the point we got from those achievement will be carried on or not?"

is it's not that's cool
but if its yes like the ones in the list they showed us then that's the problem
i know many who focused on behest and leves after the list released
aiming for both the titles and "points"

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All achievs will be carried across, however the 1.0 only achievs will not be a part of the maximum point total for the list as well as they will not show up on your list if you didnt complete them in 1.0 (1.0 only achievs)

So as a fresh 2.0 player you dont have a bunch of impossible to do stuff looking at you in the face lol

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Originally Posted by Applesnap

I'm concerned that the list of removed achievements in ARR has been published twice and this hasn't been mentioned at all until it pops up on the Japanese forums. Takes a playerbase-created thread and discussion for a dev to stop by and confirm it, offhandedly. Wondering what the next surprise is...

Square-Enix, you need to give people adequate notice if you are removing these things, since some of them take a considerable amount of time to do and not everyone has all day to dedicate to this. We appreciate you're busy working on ARR, but please give us a heads-up. That's all we ask.

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Totally agree. Few weeks ago I posted a topic saying that S-E is not caring enough of people playing the current version of the game and I got many "move out, ppl, troll thread here" replies.

But it is totally true. They are just not giving a f*** about us. Just give us free anima and free GC seals to keep us all happy and busy before they close down.

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Originally Posted by Camate

We’ll also be making gather points in the same area much closer together.

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Hmmm...not sure about this.

Coming from someone who gathers a lot, it only takes around 30 seconds or less in "most" cases to run to the next point. Surely that isn't too much to ask of people? I personally do not think the spacing is bad at all. Are SE just going to line up all the points in a row for us now? O.o

I actually enjoy tracking down the next mining/logging point. I can't be the only one.

Just in case anyone missed it, the list of achievements to be removed has been officially updated.

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Originally Posted by Husband

Hmmm...not sure about this.

Coming from someone who gathers a lot, it only takes around 30 seconds or less in "most" cases to run to the next point. Surely that isn't too much to ask of people? I personally do not think the spacing is bad at all.

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With the exception of Halatali, Horizon and Bloodshore I agree.

I just completed all the spearfishing, it was fairly easy and not too lengthy. I have a friend working on ALC luminary who was very happy to get all kinds of arachnids and amphibians I roused with my fork.

Also, for those stuck on Iron Lake spearfishing (as it only has 2 nodes) I learnt a trick from a kind JP player. Pick up one of the Iron Lake fishing leves and start it up. Go to the spearfishing node at (23,6) and spear it. Then move to the water to the side, cast your rod in, then cancel straight away. THen run to the west side of the lake where the leve school is and do the same, cast in and cancel. Then run back to the other side, cast and cancel. You should now be able to spearfish that same node. No need to run to the 2nd node at all. Every 30 mins you will have to refresh your leve. This should work for other camps where there is a leve school near a spearfish node and a space for a non leve fishing.

So in summary: Spearfish -> Fake fish non-school -> Fake fish leve school -> Fake fish non-school -> Spearfish

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

I just completed all the spearfishing, it was fairly easy and not too lengthy. I have a friend working on ALC luminary who was very happy to get all kinds of arachnids and amphibians I roused with my fork.

Also, for those stuck on Iron Lake spearfishing (as it only has 2 nodes) I learnt a trick from a kind JP player. Pick up one of the Iron Lake fishing leves and start it up. Go to the spearfishing node at (23,6) and spear it. Then move to the water to the side, cast your rod in, then cancel straight away. THen run to the west side of the lake where the leve school is and do the same, cast in and cancel. Then run back to the other side, cast and cancel. You should now be able to spearfish that same node. No need to run to the 2nd node at all. Every 30 mins you will have to refresh your leve. This should work for other camps where there is a leve school near a spearfish node and a space for a non leve fishing.

So in summary: Spearfish -> Fake fish non-school -> Fake fish leve school -> Fake fish non-school -> Spearfish

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Iron lake has two spearfishing nodes, so it's easier to just use them both. The method I used was:

Spearfish -> cast and cancel in water nearby -> run to other spearfishing node -> spearfish -> cast and cancel in water nearby.

Once you do that the first spearfishing node resets. It's basically the same as yours, but lets you use both spearfishing nodes.

Well the point is it cuts down on a lot of running time as the distance from one spearfish node to the other is a fair way, so it is faster.

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

Well the point is it cuts down on a lot of running time as the distance from one spearfish node to the other is a fair way, so it is faster.

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I prefer not chewing up my leve allowances, so I went with just running between the two schools with a cast in the lake between.

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Originally Posted by Rosalie

I prefer not chewing up my leve allowances, so I went with just running between the two schools with a cast in the lake between.

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This doesnt work all the time anymore. I know people have said thats how they've done it, but I can personally attest it not working, and so can a few others. I did a leve mothod, though different from Magnesium's.