High-level Elementals ENRAGED!

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Originally Posted by XenoSamurai

How am I supposed to get the Title "Sword of La Noscea" now? I still have 0/20 leves for Cedarwood and I was about to start working on them.

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Carefully?

I saw what you did there SE! RMT prevention? ah dam its not a aggro mob.

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Originally Posted by Mooga

I saw what you did there SE! RMT prevention? ah dam its not a aggro mob.

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there sound aggressive. so only the runner for the rmt group has to worry.

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Originally Posted by Evangelus

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love the fact how you only see 1 (or 2?) RMT sitting there now opposed to a few mins ago when there were probably about 15-20 of them there before.

SE is like: "U like gil selling hurr? You can have this!" * Level 78 Fire Elmentals spawn on RMT camp*

XD !@#$ing epic!!

Sucks for the people actually trying to level there though, but I just think of the possibility that SE cleverly, and coincidentally, decided to placed a bunch of high level mobs on top of a highly known RMT camp is just freakin hilarious as hell! LMAO I gotta go check that out and have a good laugh! XP

I still think it should be Bombs from the fire in the sky! ~sight aggro

This has got to be the best thing ever. Thank you, Yoshi-P and team. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Actually there are. Call it what you will but walking halves the actual aggro radius. Boars and Wolves fall into this category.

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The elementals themselves are not scent/sense/true sound aggro. I walked right up to one and got no aggro, well within the same radius as a boar or morbol would aggro. As long as people are careful, this isn't too bad.

People have been saying there are high-level elementals in other areas as well. Which areas? I want to see as many aspects of this apocalypse with my own eyes.

RMT: I can speak little english

Me: If you can understand us, GO AWAY.

RMT: Sorry we are just working here
RMT: we making maney
RMT: money
RMT: for you to play better

Another player: Not enough if you have to play 24-7
Another player: Or is it true that you get paid in bowls of rice

RMT: yea

I got that out of them at Cedarwood. Lmfao

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Originally Posted by Bluebun

This is awesome! Unfortunatly many months late : ( The gillies will just move camps. SE should just have an invisible "mark" on people who bot / rmt trains that spawns an elemental beside them outside of town.

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This is the kinda thinking i love :D

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

RMT: I can speak little english

Me: If you can understand us, GO AWAY.

RMT: Sorry we are just working here
RMT: we making maney
RMT: money
RMT: for you to play better

Another player: Not enough if you have to play 24-7
Another player: Or is it true that you get paid in bowls of rice

RMT: yea

I got that out of them at Cedarwood. Lmfao

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Oh god, this is really sad.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

Oh god, this is really sad.

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And it's ALL true!!
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for a bowl of rice? O.o

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

And it's ALL true!!
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That's some weird logic they have there... They're working around the clock to make "maney" for us to play better and they're only getting bowls of rice as payment and we don't even want their gil?

Shenanigans...

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Originally Posted by Tahldon

That's some weird logic they have there... They're working around the clock to make "maney" for us to play better and they're only getting bowls of rice as payment and we don't even want their gil?

Shenanigans...

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Exactly lol! This is too funny. Right now the Elementals aren't near the Node :'(

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Originally Posted by Tahldon

That's some weird logic they have there... They're working around the clock to make "maney" for us to play better and they're only getting bowls of rice as payment and we don't even want their gil?

Shenanigans...

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This is really bad. I hope that SE will be able to cut down on the amount of them, for their sake.

I went to check out the place and see the elementals my self, then I see there are still alot on my server. One RMT was pulling the near by Elementals far away from the others. I did see 2 or 3 die there. Looks like their adaptation to dangerous elements is strong.

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Originally Posted by KatoKinko

I went to check out the place and see the elementals my self, then I see there are still alot on my server. One RMT was pulling the near by Elementals far away from the others. I did see 2 or 3 die there. Looks like their adaptation to dangerous elements is strong.

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There are none at the Node of Cedarwood on my server. They only come back when the bot leader is there.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

There are none at the Node of Cedarwood on my server. They only come back when the bot leader is there.

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Do they run or walk? I see one walk then run when theres no elementals near them. Do these agro by sight or running?

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Originally Posted by Evangelus

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lol /rofl/lmao thats one way to solve the rmt camping there good job battle team

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Originally Posted by XenoSamurai

How am I supposed to get the Title "Sword of La Noscea" now? I still have 0/20 leves for Cedarwood and I was about to start working on them.

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It's still possible.
My BF was doing leves there and we both had a good giggle when we saw the RMT group get wiped. Then I watched (from distance) him rage for 5 minutes because he was dying all the time to the elementals but he managed to avoid them and got all his leves done.
It usually meant waiting for the elemental to aggro someone else (usually rmt), quickly getting the leve and then chocoing away like there was fire under your ass XD

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

And it's ALL true!!
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I don't think I can take someone called "Deathwalker Darkillusion" seriously.

I just can't.

its the end of the world so death is everywhere :(

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Originally Posted by Bowen

This is really bad. I hope that SE will be able to cut down on the amount of them, for their sake.

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I second this.

Whilst RMT do ruin our economy I'm sure each and everyone of them would rather do something else for a living.

This a serious breach of human rights! Not just something made up in a game or plastered across works of fiction this is a real problem happening to real people in a real country.

Don't make fun of RMT, they didn't choose to do this. The enemy isn't RMT themselves but a poor quality of life in eastern countries which just so happens to contribute to RMT.

It isn't Enix's responsibility to clean up all humanity-based issues but it is clear that this issue is constantly swept under the rug and ignored as if it is okay.

It isn't!

Please report RMTs but for heaven's sake don't harrass them, they're just trying to survive.

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Originally Posted by Fadigre

Please report RMTs but for heaven's sake don't harrass them, they're just trying to survive.

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I agree......if I was living in the conditions the same as some people in the world.....and got told to play a game to make money to sell....I would jump at the chance if it fed my family.

I find the comment about paying them in bowls of rice quite shocking.

I think SE wants to piss off new players, so only the vets are left, and this game dies a quick death, so they can move on to developing games for the Xbox and nintendo players.

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Originally Posted by Fadigre

I second this.

Whilst RMT do ruin our economy I'm sure each and everyone of them would rather do something else for a living.

This a serious breach of human rights! Not just something made up in a game or plastered across works of fiction this is a real problem happening to real people in a real country.

Don't make fun of RMT, they didn't choose to do this. The enemy isn't RMT themselves but a poor quality of life in eastern countries which just so happens to contribute to RMT.

It isn't Enix's responsibility to clean up all humanity-based issues but it is clear that this issue is constantly swept under the rug and ignored as if it is okay.

It isn't!

Please report RMTs but for heaven's sake don't harrass them, they're just trying to survive.

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GTFO you bleeding heart liberal

These fckn botters are exploiting a system, I suppose you think it's ok for poor people to be drug mules and sell drugs to kids, in orde to feed their families.

I'm so sick and tired of bad people blaming society for making them do bad things in order to survive. And here's something else to think about. For decades now, we have been pouring billions and billions of dollars into countries like Africa. Have the conditions over there improved much ?

I hope your job gets outsourced, so them people in poor countries will be able to feed their kids. While the greedy corporation you work for makes even more profits.

I wonder how much the guy who manages all those botters makes?

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Originally Posted by Jaimie

I think SE wants to piss off new players, so only the vets are left, and this game dies a quick death, so they can move on to developing games for the Xbox and nintendo players.

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LoL Jamie, I am sure your point came across already in the previous thread, lets move on. I am sure lvl 79 monster will kill a lvl 50 player as quick as lvl 1 player ;)

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Originally Posted by Jaimie

I think SE wants to piss off new players, so only the vets are left, and this game dies a quick death, so they can move on to developing games for the Xbox and nintendo players.

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I think I remember you from FFXIAH.

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Originally Posted by Jaimie

GTFO you bleeding heart liberal

These fckn botters are exploiting a system, I suppose you think it's ok for poor people to be drug mules and sell drugs to kids, in orde to feed their families.

I'm so sick and tired of bad people blaming society for making them do bad things in order to survive. And here's something else to think about. For decades now, we have been pouring billions and billions of dollars into countries like Africa. Have the conditions over there improved much ?

I hope your job gets outsourced, so them people in poor countries will be able to feed their kids. While the greedy corporation you work for makes even more profits.

I wonder how much the guy who manages all those botters makes?

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It sounds like you have a problem with my post, Jaimie. I'm sorry if I upset you ~

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Originally Posted by Fadigre

It sounds like you have a problem with my post, Jaimie. I'm sorry if I upset you ~

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What I have, is a problem with your attitude.

You do realize that these BOTs are probably filling up the market wards, making it near impossible for players such as myself to place a retainer in Uldah.

You do realize that you are basically condoning "bad behavior".

You do realize that thanks to outsourcing, and other economic factors many people in NA and europe are suffering a poor quality of life.

I could go on. But I'll let you THINK about what I have posted first. Maybe, you'll THINK before you make your next comment.

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Originally Posted by Jaimie

What I have, is a problem with your attitude.

You do realize that these BOTs are probably filling up the market wards, making it near impossible for players such as myself to place a retainer in Uldah.

You do realize that you are basically condoning "bad behavior".

You do realize that thanks to outsourcing, and other economic factors many people in NA and europe are suffering a poor quality of life.

I could go on. But I'll let you THINK about what I have posted first. Maybe, you'll THINK before you make your next comment.

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I have in no way stated that this behavious is acceptable just that if this behvaiour is to be combated it needs to be hit at the source otherwise the Hydra will just sprout more heads.

I also didn't say anything about the rest of the world because they are not RMTing our game. I am aware it is happening but your point doesn't really hold any weight here.

It seems you're more interested in getting into a fight about who is right or wrong and expressing yourself rather than anything else.
I recommend sitting down with a close friend or family member and talking about how you feel.

I also don't wish to discuss this any further and will only contribute with image macros.
I'll let readers decide for themselves what they think.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attac...u-mad-brah.jpg

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Originally Posted by Delsus

You think the end of the world is supposed to be easy? Skipping around La Noscea singing happy songs as a giant ball of death is going to crash into the world and cause untold destruction.

The fact the mobs are becoming like this just shows that its really happening. It's not like it stops you doing anything, leves, go to another camp that's safe, going to a dungeon near (Is it cassie hollow near cedarwood?) go to the next nearest camp and Chocobo. Unless you are really an RMT and are sick of watching your armies of Lalafell teleport in and get raped...

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How do I do cederwood Achievements at another camp?

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Originally Posted by Fadigre

I have in no way stated that this behavious is acceptable just that if this behvaiour is to be combated it needs to be hit at the source otherwise the Hydra will just sprout more heads.

I also didn't say anything about the rest of the world because they are not RMTing our game. I am aware it is happening but your point doesn't really hold any weight here.

It seems you're more interested in getting into a fight about who is right or wrong and expressing yourself rather than anything else.
I recommend sitting down with a close friend or family member and talking about how you feel.

I also don't wish to discuss this any further and will only contribute with image macros.
I'll let readers decide for themselves what they think.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attac...u-mad-brah.jpg

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He is so mad.

Haha! I noticed these yesterday, I was doing some botany leves there and just assumed they were a gift for the gillies :) They're pretty easy to avoid, I didn't have any problems doing my leves though one snuck up on my while I stopped to harvest :P It did look like it was hindering their progress whether or not the group at the gate was getting hit, but I still got to see a couple of them get one shotted so that was fun :P

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Originally Posted by Jaimie

What I have, is a problem with your attitude.

You do realize that these BOTs are probably filling up the market wards, making it near impossible for players such as myself to place a retainer in Uldah.

You do realize that you are basically condoning "bad behavior".

You do realize that thanks to outsourcing, and other economic factors many people in NA and europe are suffering a poor quality of life.

I could go on. But I'll let you THINK about what I have posted first. Maybe, you'll THINK before you make your next comment.

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I counter with this:

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

While it might seem to many of you that we are not combating RMT related activity at camps like Cedarwood and other places, please rest assured that the operations and STF teams are proactively looking into this and performing thorough investigations. And to give you more insight of their investigations, we banned 700 accounts last week, but as you know they keep coming back.

In addition to ongoing STF efforts, we will be setting up countermeasures system wise as we head towards version 2.0. If you happen to notice any suspicious activity in your adventuring, please take a moment and help us out by making an STF report by goVing here: http://support.na.square-enix.com/co...hp?id=902&la=1

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While this discussion already exist: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...me...?p=739547...

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

While it might seem to many of you that we are not combating RMT related activity at camps like Cedarwood and other places, please rest assured that the operations and STF teams are proactively looking into this and performing thorough investigations. And to give you more insight of their investigations, we banned 700 accounts last week, but as you know they keep coming back.

In addition to ongoing STF efforts, we will be setting up countermeasures system wise as we head towards version 2.0. If you happen to notice any suspicious activity in your adventuring, please take a moment and help us out by making an STF report by going here: http://support.na.square-enix.com/co...hp?id=902&la=1

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I don't think worrying about RMT and complaining about it will do much difference as you see above, as Rukkirii already replied with what you can call "internal awareness".

RMT can be compared to/and be equivalent to exploiting a market and piracy. Piracy in regards to "virtual property" and profiting from it as if was your own. This is against the ToS and a corporate offense giving SE the rights to lay the Ban-Hammer.

RMT is a verb of all means to trade real currency for virtual services and in-game items. As in FFxi I see SE will have to take action against these RMT business people who willfully exploit these opportunities for profit and soon FFxiv will be free of these "Gillsellers".

The most effective way to take action against these "gillsellers" is to also report website across the web. That's the main reason why SE is considering taking away free trials. or reducing the time length. (correct me if I'm wrong but I hope it reduced to seven days)

Disclosure: This isn't influencing people to link themselves with RMT and paying for their services. It's to bring awareness that they exist and it's as easy as googleing "buy ffxiv gold".
Example: Report- "This URL= <insert RMT website> which I like to report, sell in-game property for real life money. They make it a business off of a product that doesn't belong to them."

@SE community Reps: Which are other more effective ways to report RMT in-game and on the Web? (if any)

"Gill-farmers" as you can call them work for the RMT "Gill-sellers" and are employed as "Cheap-Laborers" which is a real shame really and I feel real bad for them to be working for only a bowl of rice. :(
That's not even enough for workers to progress in the working force and seems to be out of desperation and a terrible economy, oppression and bed government. Westerners have much of the blame for this as well, due to the fact that corporates here find it economic to employ cheap labor for everything else and most of it is from China. So I wouldn't be all that pissed at farmer or SE.

There has to be initiative somewhere else to hit the root of the problem if we want to reduce RMT in Final Fantasy XIV (or XI).

As be aware that most farmers belong to actual players with 3rd party tools. If you see 'them', they probably have signature names. I don't bot myself, and I don't condone BOTing because it's compromising. I'm not really clear on what SE thinks of 3rd party tools like this. Can someone bring this to light and clear it up? Thanks

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Originally Posted by Fadigre

I second this.

Whilst RMT do ruin our economy I'm sure each and everyone of them would rather do something else for a living.

This a serious breach of human rights! Not just something made up in a game or plastered across works of fiction this is a real problem happening to real people in a real country.

Don't make fun of RMT, they didn't choose to do this. The enemy isn't RMT themselves but a poor quality of life in eastern countries which just so happens to contribute to RMT.

It isn't Enix's responsibility to clean up all humanity-based issues but it is clear that this issue is constantly swept under the rug and ignored as if it is okay.

It isn't!

Please report RMTs but for heaven's sake don't harrass them, they're just trying to survive.

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Okay, I'll agree you shouldn't harrass them. Not for their sake, but because it would be pointless to harrass them as they're going to do what they're doing anyway. But feel pity for them? No, I do not. Sorry, but these people ruin in-game economies with their gold selling and they illegally make money off of someone else's IP. Oh, and let's not forget they've been known to hack and steal accounts to take all their valuable items and sell them off, and then use the account to advertise for more gold selling. Pity for them? Pfft, I don't feel an ounce. Call me cruel or heartless if you must, but I must say kudos to Squeenix for biting them in the butt here, even if they did it inadvertently. As far as I'm concerned, gold sellers can go straight to H-E-double hockey sticks. With gasoline underwear on. :p

Right now there are no elementals near Cedarwood. It's as if they are avoiding the RMT now at the Node. The elementals are on the outside of the surrounding area, though. It's strange. I think the RMTs are luring them away from the Node...

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Originally Posted by Jaimie

For decades now, we have been pouring billions and billions of dollars into countries like Africa.

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Sorry for being that guy, but Africa isn't a country.

That being said, are we really sure that that "yeah" in the RMT's reply is regarding the bowl of rice? He could be agreeing with the "Not enough if you have to play the game 24-7.". Screenshot doesn't have time stamp, so it's hard to say in how the conversation actually went.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

Right now there are no elementals near Cedarwood. It's as if they are avoiding the RMT now at the Node. The elementals are on the outside of the surrounding area, though. It's strange. I think the RMTs are luring them away from the Node...

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I think they are, I even tried to help, but they kept ending up where the leve mobs spawn, so annoying i kept getting killed just their.. oh well..

Some were really chatty tonight though, talking about some island and dogs almost all the time over and over..

Oh well i love the new mobs SE has given us, I've been having loads of fun with them.
Even more then Atamos! :D