Silver pieces vs Gold pieces earning

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

I mean the new strat doesn’t preclude any jobs which is a lot better than the WAR strat

Now anyone can join the party just needs a tank and a shield healer at least

I don’t think you can get more balanced than that

---

Oh no, I think you misread. I'm fine with the strats that you listed. I was saying the reason it felt like everyone was doing that other one was that way.

What it really is is that SE just didn't account for Cannoneer being as stupid broken as it is.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 0blivion

What it really is is that SE just didn't account for Cannoneer being as stupid broken as it is.

---

I think that's where the 5% was supposed to balance thing but failed since it's a AOE like 8 person with a 5% on every single mobs is rather alot and if you pull in pack of 4. well you have a rather high chance to wipe them all out. don't know if my over math would be correct but so far it's what I have seen like in massive pulls at least 4 dies can be more or less but 4 seem to be to over all in bad luck if lucky well only one will wipe 8+

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

I think that's where the 5% was supposed to balance thing but failed since it's a AOE like 8 person with a 5% on every single mobs is rather alot and if you pull in pack of 4. well you have a rather high chance to wipe them all out. don't know if my over math would be correct but so far it's what I have seen like in massive pulls at least 4 dies can be more or less but 4 seem to be to over all in bad luck if lucky well only one will wipe 8+

---

Yeah this is correct. Also, cannoneer scales really stupidly with classes that run on percentage dmg buffs, i.e. Black Mage. That means that even if you don't hit the 5%, a prepared team can absolutely obliterate even without ever hitting it.

the 5% dont matter at all for the farm. Its the 3 times 200+ potency that scales with your ilvl and ignores the enemies def. Same goes for any other phantom skill that scales with ilvl tho. Cannoneer just has 3 of these that make it so strong

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

the 5% dont matter at all for the farm. Its the 3 times 200+ potency that scales with your ilvl and ignores the enemies def. Same goes for any other phantom skill that scales with ilvl tho. Cannoneer just has 3 of these that make it so strong

---

This ^

And they get 3 available actions as early as lv3. On top of that, its low cooldown + ranged + AoE.

BLM's Enochian and other damage% multiplier may make them stronger, but given that any phantom potency ignores damage reduction caused by knowledge lv difference, 4-5 Cannoneer at lv3 or higher are typically enough to wipe a pull of lv28s no problem. What I'm seeing more now are people picking up multiple NINs to rotate their Dokumoris.

I wish I could trade Gold for Silver to make +1ing my gear less painful. Trying to get gear ready for Forked Tower and hope to clear to the best of my ability means suffering so... so many CEs and Fates. lol

I appreciate the pic used in the OP; it's very educational and helps me better visualize whatever it is people are talking about.

I highly encourage more people to post similar pics in their threads.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

the 5% dont matter at all for the farm. Its the 3 times 200+ potency that scales with your ilvl and ignores the enemies def. Same goes for any other phantom skill that scales with ilvl tho. Cannoneer just has 3 of these that make it so strong

---

How is the scaling with item level supposed to work when you are always set to item level 700 anyway?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ACE135

How is the scaling with item level supposed to work when you are always set to item level 700 anyway?

---

Item scales to the special stat that occult gear gives you

+0 gear gives you one point per piece, +1 is 2 points and +2 is 3 points

It’s about 1% extra damage per “point”

The extra main stat you get one occult gear (the +40/80/120 mind/intelligence/strength/dex) also applies on top of the scaling to 700

How do you make so much gold? Whether in a group or solo I get gold at the same rate and that's using mostly cannoneer in a full party. And by some implications here it's possible to kill multiple at a time? How sway?!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BunnyBrat

How do you make so much gold? Whether in a group or solo I get gold at the same rate and that's using mostly cannoneer in a full party. And by some implications here it's possible to kill multiple at a time? How sway?!

---

Have a tank on thief, the tank pulls 6 or 7 mobs while the healers keep them alive. Then the tank presses occult sprint and kites the mobs around while everyone destroys them with canons