English VA Work - Please keep it AAA

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Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto

I enjoyed the voice work from certain characters.

Suck it, haters.

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"I enjoy subpar garbage, suck it people with valid criticism" *
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All this hatred is rare in FF14. But looking at the "Join date" it is mostly "new players". Makes sense. As a Latin American, the VA was great, as it was meant to have an "spanish" accent. You may have failed to notice this, but every location in 14, characters have accents. Tural continues this tradition.

Did we all collectively forget about the English voice acting in ARR? Some of the actors were industry veterans like Sam Regal, Gideon Emery, Mela Lee, and Kyle Herbert, but some felt miscast or felt like they had little to no direction for how they were supposed to sound in a scene. Meanwhile Minfillia sounded extremely flat and wooden, and wouldn't you know it, her VA has that as her single credit on IMDB, her first and last acting job.

Dawntrail feels like ARR voice acting again: A mix of veterans who we know can do good work but sound off this time around, and some new VAs that maybe weren't the best casting choices. Granted, given some of these boring to trash lines they had to read, I'm not sure ANY actor or director could have given us a good performance. The material they're working with isn't exactly stellar this time around.

A lot of people blame individual actors for a bad performance, but honestly, I usually see it as a casting, directing, and production team mistake rather than just any individual actor being "bad."

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Originally Posted by vafurous

now This is a post

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NGL, I hated the twins at first. (I was hoping for more of a Polom/Porom vibe.) However, they were written well and had great character development. Their VAs are great, too.

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Originally Posted by JimCasey_RF6

It's safe to say that there is a lot of collective frustration regarding the English VA work in Dawntrail. Many players have had their main scenario quest experience negatively impacted by poor quality English voice acting from certain characters.

Please do not allow this to happen again in the future. It is crucial that all VA work put into the game is of quality. We have come to expect a higher standard than what was delivered in Dawntrail.

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It's not really safe to say at all.

I don't even know why you're commenting, none of your characters are above level 90. You clearly haven't experienced it yourself.

Also, your demand that only "Triple A" VA's should be in the game is pure drivel, and would piss off even the supposed "Triple A" VA's that are in the industry, especially since many of them are unionized.

Everything about what you said is a utterly awful.

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Originally Posted by CerusSerenade

none of your characters are above level 90. You clearly haven't experienced it yourself.

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Just chiming in to say this isn't really a point given people watch their spouses/partner/friends play and also can watch cutscenes on youtube. One of my friends has a partner that didn't re-up their sub but still watched my friend go through the MSQ before deciding if they wanted to get membership.

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Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus

Just chiming in to say this isn't really a point given people watch their spouses/partner/friends play and also can watch cutscenes on youtube. One of my friends has a partner that didn't re-up their sub but still watched my friend go through the MSQ before deciding if they wanted to get membership.

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True.

Counterpoint, it still damages your credibility to try and criticize something you didn't actually experience. It's not a deal breaker, but it makes what you say inherently hold less weight.

Especially pertinent when he makes claims like "only allow Triple A VA's in the game" when not only is that just a GARBAGE decision, it shows clear misunderstanding of the VA industry and undercuts the intention of the devs.

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Originally Posted by CerusSerenade

True.

Counterpoint, it still damages your credibility to try and criticize something you didn't actually experience. It's not a deal breaker, but it makes what you say inherently hold less weight.

Especially pertinent when he makes claims like "only allow Triple A VA's in the game" when not only is that just a GARBAGE decision, it shows clear misunderstanding of the VA industry and undercuts the intention of the devs.

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It could be possible that they might have alt characters (or not). I play the MSQ on another character that's not the one I show on the forums.
I don't see how watching the cutscenes with someone or on youtube is...somehow 'not experiencing' it. I feel like this is just an excuse to try and discredit people who don't share your opinion and aren't playing the game the way you want them to play.

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Originally Posted by Rueby

It could be possible that they might have alt characters (or not). I play the MSQ on another character that's not the one I show on the forums.
I don't see how watching the cutscenes with someone or on youtube is...somehow 'not experiencing' it. I feel like this is just an excuse to try and discredit people who don't share your opinion and aren't playing the game the way you want them to play.

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You're hyperfocusing on something and trying to defend it despite knowing your arguments to defend it are highly improbable. It's not "not playing the game the way I want them to" it's "they didn't play the game at all." In this case it's the expansion specifically, but I was following your lead.

I already said it's not important, it's more that he made a garbage demand for only "Triple A" VA's.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Do you feel the other VA's had sub par performances also or just the one?
Because let me tell you, Thancred, Y'shtola, Krile, and G'raha all sounded far worse than they did in endwalker. This wasn't the VAs, this was the recording or direction at fault.

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Yes.

1. EN VA in general is worse than previous expansion. The casting director is not doing good this time.

2. That particular character's VA just doesn't have enough range to properly voice their character. It's bad enough that a parody video using AI voice sounds quite the same as how the character speaks in game.

Both statement can exist at the same time.

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Originally Posted by CerusSerenade

Counterpoint, it still damages your credibility to try and criticize something you didn't actually experience.

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No it's not. If we're talking about the gameplay, then yes. But hearing a character talks? You don't really have to play it yourself to judge whether it's good or not.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

What job did you finish DT as OP?

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Viper (and Gunbreaker).

And no, I don't skip any cutscene.
Next question?

First, of course, is the Warrior of Light, who will be played by Chris Pratt. He's so cool.

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Originally Posted by Kozh

Viper (and Gunbreaker).

And no, I don't skip any cutscene.
Next question?

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Who are you?

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Who are you?

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Who do you think you are to ask other posters this?

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Who do you think you are to ask other posters this?

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I liked you better when you weren't so snarky.

Kozh answered a question I posted to the OP as if I had personally asked them, and then added the passive aggressive "next question", so I asked the next question "who are you".

What happened to you?

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

I liked you better when you weren't so snarky.

Kozh answered a question I posted to the OP as if I had personally asked them, and then added the passive aggressive "next question", so I asked the next question "who are you".

What happened to you?

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Seems to me you thought you had a gotcha moment that didn’t pan out. That is how I viewed your original question. That’s snarky to me.

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Originally Posted by Benjo

You're welcome.
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Honestly, not just JP dub, but French And German were really lovely this time. I always do JP dub on my first play through. Then English on my NG+ run. But this time I skipped the EN dub (and well... doing NG+ at all)... I saw some snippets of French and German through watching streamers/ YouTube. The VA work for high emotional areas were much better than EN this time. Even though I don't understand those two languages overly well, I could close my eyes and just listen. Their acting was enough to tell me what was happening in these scenes and how I should feel about it.

I also feel as though the acting in EN was inconsistent compared to the other languages. It wasn't just high emotional areas affected, but even casual speaking. While one actor seemed to know what tone to use, another didn't. And they were in the same scene! It's as if they don't communicate with one another, and it's really off-putting. I understand due to various circumstance they can't always be in the studio together, but they should at least have referencing / videos of the other actors to look back on and a director... well directing. The other language VAs aren't perfect. They get these wrong too sometimes, including directors. But EN typically has the most inconsistencies.

your highest level class is a 91 alchemist, stop lying lmfaoooooo