Thancred's new face

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Originally Posted by Parisanparisan

サンクレッドが好きすぎてサンクレッドを日々研究している者です。
今回のグラフィックスアップデートにより、サンクレッドが別人のように顔が変わってしまったことが個人的に非常に気になり、そのことでなかなかメインストーリーを進められずにいたので今回こちらに初投稿いたしました。
以下に、比較しやすいよう漆黒・暁月の同じムービーシーンを旧・新と並べて添付いたします。
左が旧グラのサンクレッドで、右が宿屋で見た7.0でアップデートされたサンクレッドになります。


https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...b06d2907a4.jpg

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Thank you for introducing the above post I wrote on the Japanese forum (dedicated thread for requests only) regarding feedback on Thancred's facial changes!
Since there was no announcement from the management about graphics updates, I posted in another thread (one where you can also discuss graphics updates) a month later. I quote it below.
Here, solutions for the entire graphics update, including not only NPCs but also PCs, are being discussed, so I also wrote a request for a solution for fixing NPCs.

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Originally Posted by Parisanparisan

上記のキャラクター描写グラフィックの修正要望を投稿する専用のスレッドのほうに要望を投稿しておりましたが
アーリー実装直後の6月末でだいぶ流れてしまい見て頂けてるのか不安でもあるので、念の為こちらのスレッドにも引用で失礼いたします。

PCではなく特定のNPC (サンクレッド) についての要望になります。

こちらの議論スレッドで解決案としてよく出ていました
「プレイする環境として新or旧グラフィックを各自で選択できるようにする」
「キャラクリの選択に旧パーツを追加する」
に関しましては、
NPCの場合は後者は不可能なので個人的には前者の新旧の選択式だとありがたいです。
システム上、難しいのかもしれませんが…

(((または、もしNPCの新グラフィックに修正等を入れるご予定が全く無いということでしたら……
せめて新生〜暁月までは従来の姿のままというのは難しいのでしょうか。宿屋のムービーは旧グラフィック版でも見られるようにするetc..
強ニューやフェイスで今までの冒険の思い出を振り返ったり、宿屋で暁月までのムービーを見返した際も
人相が変わってしまった新グラフィックの姿に変更されていて、今まで長く一緒に旅をしていたサンクレッドの存在が
最初から無かったかのように消えており二度と会えないんだなと思うととても悲しいです。)))

どうぞ宜しくお願いいたします。

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I'm sorry that the two posts are all in Japanese, but I would be happy if you could read them with automatic translation. (This sentence is an automatic translation, so I'm sorry if it looks strange.)

I added a quote to my first post saying that the changes in Thancred's face are being discussed in the English forum, so I would like people from overseas to refer to it as well!

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海外のフレンド・プレイヤーさんたちと接する機会がよくあるのですが、サンクレッドに関して海外から同じ意見や要望を多く頂いております。
以下の引用は、英語フォーラムに立っているサンクレッドの顔の変化についての専用スレッドです。
こちらのスレッドから海外の声もご参考にしていただければと思います。

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Originally Posted by ShiiroHana

I was worried about how he would turn out from the trailer before release, but I'm insanely disappointed with the way his face has changed.
He used to use a completely unique sculpt, but his current face is much more similar to Midlander 1, sharing identical lip and nose shapes. I much preferred his unique face, and I'd like if it was brought back.

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英語圏のフレンドさんがGIF比較を作成してくれました。

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Originally Posted by Turethir

I'm sorry, but he really doesn't look the same! Here's a GIF; you can clearly see the differences in lip shape, nose shape, and even changes to the eyes. The lips are the biggest thing, I think.
https://i.imgur.com/ktrA5le.gif

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他の比較画像など・・

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Originally Posted by mouse_marple

I'm glad you made this thread. I've been thinking about how best to bring this up. I'm a major Thancred enjoyer so I am probably too sensitive to the changes, but I think they are noticeable. I do like the idea of making 5.0--Thancred look a little older. I think that is a good idea that matches the story. However, I think the change from ARR--SHB+ is too drastic now. In some lighting and at some angles, 7.0 Thancred looks alright, but at times he looks really different. Here is a comparison taken from a cutscene in an SHB questline ("Dirty Jobs" I think was the title or close to it).

https://i.imgur.com/RcDRDnC.jpg

Click for full version of pic

This side-by side makes the differences very obvious. His mouth just does not express in the same way any more.

Another comparison (Endwalker opening cutscene) where he is facing the camera more directly:

https://i.imgur.com/LUWmMqe.png

Click for full version of pic

If I had to list the most serious issues:

1) mouth
2) skin texture
3) eyes
4) cheeks

I think the skin texture issue is a problem for most male midlander right now. It creates this blotchy/acne like appearance that wasn't there before.

Do we have to report these things as bugs to hope for change?

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上記の比較画像や新旧パーツの違い等もご参考に、サンクレッドらしさ・個性が非常に良く出ていた元の顔立ちを忠実に再現した修正をご検討頂けますと幸いです。
お忙しい中、申し訳ございません。

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Seeing how his lips changed so much reminds me how even for the majority of player characters they really noticeably changed almost all the lips that weren't already thin, non-curvy ones. Any lips that had any unique or full volume to them were really flattened out, and they ALL look worse. I feel bad for hyurs that a lot of their lip changes also were accompanied by that more defined philtrum, like with Thancred's.

Bless, I've been bothered about this since day 1. I've come to the conclusion that they made his face more like the generic type 1 hyur, than they did the more custom version he had before. This is my face 1 Thancred alt standing alongside NG+ Thancred.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSP6EeOW...png&name=small

Things I've noticed:

- His nose profile is different (it's longer now and has less of an upturn than it used to have).
- The cupid's bow is much more pronounced now, as he scarcely had one before.
- The mouth is wider over all, and lacks the 'pout' that it used to have.
- Upper lip is thinner now, in particular.
- The eyebrow doesn't have the sharp darker color on the underside, and that makes a shocking difference, as now it nearly blends into his skin.
- There were bags under his eyes before, which seem to be gone now. I can't figure out if it's an overall change with the cheeks or not.

But yes, THANK YOU for making this thread - it's been infuriating me since the day the game went live. He *doesn't feel like Thancred* anymore. I came to the conclusion that while the character looks good, it isn't *him*.

Yep, his face looks ..well, not Thancred. It's not good.

I thought I was crazy thinking Thancred looks different. Appreciate this thread for confirming it.

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Originally Posted by Parisanparisan

I added a quote to my first post saying that the changes in Thancred's face are being discussed in the English forum, so I would like people from overseas to refer to it as well!

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Thank you so much for doing this. It is greatly appreciated!! I hope the developers see all of our concerns and acknowledge it.

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Originally Posted by ArtemisXIV

Bless, I've been bothered about this since day 1. I've come to the conclusion that they made his face more like the generic type 1 hyur, than they did the more custom version he had before. This is my face 1 Thancred alt standing alongside NG+ Thancred.

Things I've noticed:

- His nose profile is different (it's longer now and has less of an upturn than it used to have).
- The cupid's bow is much more pronounced now, as he scarcely had one before.
- The mouth is wider over all, and lacks the 'pout' that it used to have.
- Upper lip is thinner now, in particular.
- The eyebrow doesn't have the sharp darker color on the underside, and that makes a shocking difference, as now it nearly blends into his skin.
- There were bags under his eyes before, which seem to be gone now. I can't figure out if it's an overall change with the cheeks or not.

But yes, THANK YOU for making this thread - it's been infuriating me since the day the game went live. He *doesn't feel like Thancred* anymore. I came to the conclusion that while the character looks good, it isn't *him*.

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Great list, I also can't tell exactly what is happening with the cheeks but it's having an effect. Your point about the eyebrows is a really good one.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I didn't notice a difference.

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I see a slight difference but he's always looked like a very basic Midlander to me? I wish he actually had the face they keep giving him in trailers. Trailer Thancred and in-game Thancred are two different people.

I never really noticed either so it’s interesting to see there is a change.

At a glance it just looks like he got smoother and also got more depth because of the new shadows/lighting. And he looks a bit older too?

It’s not not Thancred, and I kinda prefer the update tbh.

I really dislike the overall blurrier look that the faces have now. The old art style is clearer and sharper.

It's hard to tell with the lighting but I think the lip shape might be suffering from the same issue I've noticed on my female Midlander and some types of characters (particularly Erenville so far), where the surface of the cheeks curves inwards around the nose to the centre point of the lips rather than outwards to the corners of the mouth, so it looks pinched in the middle.

Oh. Huh. I haven't replayed anything since DT dropped so I hadn't noticed. But yeah wow that looks like how I'd expect Thancred's brother to look or something.

Poor Thancred used Matt Gaetz's face guy

I thought he looked a little off but not so much I couldn't tell it was him.

Not really a Thancred fan though so didn't bother me.

+1 give us a better, handsome thancred

His lip is really much different to old model for me. Personally i didn't expect they'll change him back anytime soon. but i hope they'll see this feedback and consider about it too.

I agree that Thancred looked very off after the update, the screenshots posted in this thread exemplifies this. Many of his features have been flattened. Lips, nose and under the eyes.

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Originally Posted by ShiiroHana

I was worried about how he would turn out from the trailer before release, but I'm insanely disappointed with the way his face has changed.
He used to use a completely unique sculpt, but his current face is much more similar to Midlander 1, sharing identical lip and nose shapes. I much preferred his unique face, and I'd like if it was brought back.

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Agreed. I have Midlander face 1, he looks way too much like my character. His face needs to be redesigned for the graphical update so that he looks like himself again.

Adding my support! He just looks so different and missing some of his charm points... ;w;

I thought it was just the lighting when I tried to do MSQ again starting in Ul'dah.. our handsome stranger is.. not so handsome anymore lol

Damn, RIP yet another upgrade victim. The abomination continues and the bodies are piling up. ☠

Realistically, is there any better way of getting the devs' attention on this issue? I am happy to submit a bug report if that's the only way to do it - hundreds of upvotes across the various threads on this show that this is an issue for a lot of people.

What are you guys talking about?

He looks fine to me:

https://i.imgur.com/lBQ8XkO.png

Not sure why they changed his model from the HW one to begin with. That one was perfection.

This person did a fantastic write up about the changes on the JP side, recommend going and up-voting it in the JP thread.

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Originally Posted by Parisanparisan

黄金のレガシー開始おめでとうございます！そしていつもありがとうございます！

サンクレッドが好きすぎてサンクレッドを日々研究している者です。
今回のグラフィックスアップデートにより、サンクレッドが別人のように顔が変わってしまったことが個人的に非常に気になり、そのことでなかなかメインストーリーを進められずにいたので今回こちらに初投稿いたしました。サンクレッドはミッドランダー男性ですので、ここで他の方々がミドラン男性について要望されていることと共通する部分もあります。
以下に、比較しやすいよう漆黒・暁月の同じムービーシーンを旧・新と並べて添付いたします。
左が旧グラのサンクレッドで、右が宿屋で見た7.0でアップデートされたサンクレッドになります。


https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...e5540fcc4a.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...b06d2907a4.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...cbe0042ed9.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...0f93e5fa2c.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...af288a8ee8.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...f6cd56df31.jpg

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...22889937b1.jpg


違いをまとめますと・・
（※ 髪型がかなり特徴的なので頭部・髪を隠しつつ比較すると更に分かりやすいかと思います）

▪️ 上唇の形と、下唇は今までアヒル口のような厚めのぽてっとした唇でしたが、薄くなり平べったくなってしまっている。
▪️ 唇の血色が悪くなった。
▪️ 人中が目立つ。
▪️ 鼻の形
▪️ 眉毛が薄く細くなり力強さが無くなった。離れて見ると眉毛が無いように見える。
▪️ 角度やシーンによって二重から一重のようになってしまっている。
▪️ 目元がマイルドになっている。
▪️ 瞳の瞳孔が薄い。
▪️ 目が生き生きしていない。（ハイライトが薄くてクッキリしてない？瞳が全体的にぼやけてる？）
▪️ 全体的に顔立ちが薄い・色素が薄い？
▪️ 今までのクッキリした目鼻立ちではなくなり、顔の印象がぼやけたように感じる。
▪️ 童顔でかわいらしい顔立ちでもありましたが、童顔っぽさがなくなっている。
▪️ 表情が暗めになり、顔全体から出ていたオーラ・キラキラ感のようなものがなくなった。（＝生気のない表情）
▪️ そもそも顔のタイプが違うようにも見える。（フェイスタイプ１でしたが、タイプ５寄りになっている・・？）
▪️ 小顔になった。
▪️ 髪色。ホワイト感アップ。
▪️ 遠くから見ると、眉下・目の周りが謎の影で黒くなる。（＝顔色が悪く暗い印象。近づいて見るとその目の周りの黒い影みたいなものは薄くなり消えていく。）
▪️ 他のキャラもですがライティングによるものなのか、顔がパンパンに腫れ上がったようになっているシーンが今までよりもかなり多くなっている。
▪️ 以前まではサンクレッドだけのオリジナル専用パーツが使用されており、私たちプレイヤーのキャラメイクでは再現不可能だった。
が、今回のアップデートで本物サンクレッドのパーツにオリジナル感や個性がなくなりプレイヤーのキャラクリでも再現できそうな顔立ちになってしまっている。

・・などなど、結論として全パーツが違うように思います。NPC・暁メンバーの中で1番変わってしまったかなと・・。
ただ、蒼天のサンクレッドはコンサポで確認しましたが、日焼けで肌が黒いのと眼帯のおかげもあるのかそのまま同じ顔では・・？と思えるほど違和感がなかったです。
新生のサンクレッドおよびラハブレアに乗っ取られたサンクレッドもコンテンツやムービーで確認しましたが、
同じく旧版の顔の印象とほぼ大差なく、パーツは変わってないように見え違和感はなかったです。
なのでおそらく漆黒・暁月・黄金のサンクレッドに、彼の印象や人相が変わってしまうパーツが使用されているのかなという見解です。

自分自身のキャラをサンクレッドに似せてゲームを楽しんでおり、似せるために本物のサンクレッドとの比較研究や、
サンクレッドを隅々まで観察し幻想薬でこれまで何度も細かく調整してきたのでサンクレッドの顔は熟知しているつもりではいます。
（※ 自分のキャラはキャラクリで似せてはいますが本人・本物ではないのと、元々ミラプリで顔が半分隠れたアレンジをしているためグラフィックの変化は気になりません。
NPCであるサンクレッド・ウォータース本人の変化についてのみのフィードバック・要望になります。）

今回の別人級の変化で今後サンクレッドとどう接していけばいいか分からず・・そっくりさんという印象です。（中身はもちろんサンクレッド本人なのですが・・）
個人的には、慣れや時間で解決できる問題でもなく・・。
キャラクターの老いによる変化は問題ないのですが、今回は作中で（暁月〜黄金）年月が経っているわけでもないですし
パーツや造形の変化となると老化ではなく整形したような感覚になってしまうかなと・・。
グラフィックスアップデートにより、NPCの人相が変わったり顔の造形やパーツそのものが変更になるとは思っていなかったのですが、
なぜパーツや造形まで変わってしまったのでしょうか・・？
また、グラアプデ後に見た新生・蒼天・紅蓮のサンクレッドは6.58までの顔と同じなのでは？と感じるほどパーツも変わらず彼の印象は変わっていないのですが、
漆黒・暁月・黄金のサンクレッドも同じように従来の専用パーツ・顔立ち・印象を保ったままでのアップデートはできないのでしょうか。
（もしかして順番に、これから新生〜紅蓮のサンクレッドの顔もパーツ造形ごと変更されるのでしょうか・・・・・・・・・。）
個人的に一番長い時間を過ごし特別思い入れのある漆黒・暁月のサンクレッドとの旅の思い出のシーンを、今、宿屋のムービーで見返すと人相が変わってしまった7.0の姿に変更されていたので悲しかったです・・。

前の顔が好みor今の顔が好み・・・といったような単なる個人的好みの問題で今回書き込みをしているわけではなく、
「サンクレッドの特徴的なパーツや絶妙なバランスが生み出していた彼のチャームポイントや個性が消えてしまっている点」
「ライティングや影により人相が変わってしまっている点」
を特に詳細にご確認頂けたらと思いフィードバックさせていただきました。

海外のフレンド・プレイヤーさんたちと接する機会がよくあるのですが、サンクレッドに関して海外から同じ意見や要望を多く頂いております。
以下の引用は、英語フォーラムに立っているサンクレッドの顔の変化についての専用スレッドです。
こちらのスレッドから海外の声もご参考にしていただければと思います。



英語圏のフレンドさんがGIF比較を作成してくれました。


他の比較画像など・・



上記の比較画像や新旧パーツの違い等もご参考に、サンクレッドらしさ・個性が非常に良く出ていた元の顔立ちを忠実に再現した修正をご検討頂けますと幸いです。
お忙しい中、申し訳ございません。

私事ですがゲームをする習慣というのが今までの人生になかったのですが、
別界隈のご縁でたまたまFF14をすることになり初めてのゲームでしたがサンクレッドに出会いすっかりハマりました。
定期的にサンクレッドのファン向けに、関連した様々なプレイヤーイベントを企画・主催したり、サンクレッドが高難易度に出るならと絶まで挑戦したり等・・サンクレッドを軸としてFF14をプレイしています。とても魅力あるキャラクターを生み出して頂き本当に感謝しております。ありがとうございます。どうか上記の件よろしくお願い致します・・・！

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Originally Posted by ShiiroHana

He used to use a completely unique sculpt, but his current face is much more similar to Midlander 1, sharing identical lip and nose shapes. I much preferred his unique face, and I'd like if it was brought back.

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He resembles Midlander 1 because that is the model he's using -- and has always used. In the game's files, it's differentiated largely because he uses unique textures. This is how his ARR appearance (and I believe his appearance in ShB and beyond, since I'm pretty sure he reverted to the same default diffuse map by then), barring his Archon mark, is entirely replicable in the character creator.

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Originally Posted by Tahli

Not sure why they changed his model from the HW one to begin with. That one was perfection.

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The model was identical; it was just a different diffuse map. And hairstyle, of course lol.

Why did they change the models so much...

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Originally Posted by Turnintino

He resembles Midlander 1 because that is the model he's using -- and has always used. In the game's files, it's differentiated largely because he uses unique textures. This is how his ARR appearance (and I believe his appearance in ShB and beyond, since I'm pretty sure he reverted to the same default diffuse map by then), barring his Archon mark, is entirely replicable in the character creator.

The model was identical; it was just a different diffuse map. And hairstyle, of course lol.

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As someone who's had a Thancred alt for several years, I can confirm 100% that you could not replicate him in the character creator in SHB/EW. His model does have noticeable differences to the sculpt (the OP is correct) and while he's based on the Midlander 1 face, he is impossible to replicate due to these differences (mainly around the nose and lips area, as well as darker shadows around his eyes).

The hairstyle is 100% the same as the character creator one, though.

We've just had a response from the dev team on the thread about character changes! So I hope that Thancred might get a look-in, considering a post about him in the JP thread got well over 100 upvotes. Fingers crossed this is acknowleged, and if it is not, I'll definitely keep pushing on this one!

There was an announcement from the management about a graphic update, but for some reason the answer was only about the player character. There was no answer regarding NPC, so I don't know if Thancred will be fixed. I don't have much hope for whether there will be any separate announcements regarding NPC (Thancred) in the future. What do you all think?

Whats even better, Thancred still has his old face(the better face) in MSQ roulette Praetorium when he's Lahabrea.

Maybe Thancred having his unique features removed is an omen of things to come...
Please SE, return my husbands face

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Originally Posted by HeyMcFly

Whats even better, Thancred still has his old face(the better face) in MSQ roulette Praetorium when he's Lahabrea.

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Likewise for a certain Miqo'te's appearance in Shadowbringers... His other model (and player-characters using the same face) have been altered and the eyes are changed a lot, but there he is still with his old eye shape and long eyelashes looking perfectly fine and functional.

Edited to be clearer (but spoilery):

The Exarch's face still has its old shape and looks fine. His younger self, G'raha Tia, has been altered – the eyelid is lower and thick makeup added to disguise the change.

I made a longer post in the megathread while I will aim to dig up and link here later.

It was announced at some point that earlier expansions/npcs will be “upgraded” in later patches. So we can enjoy his old self in the meantime. It’s all going to be gone eventually.

After the Lodestone post I am a little concerned that NPCs weren't mentioned, so I'd like to keep this thread live with examples.

Here's a GIF I made which shows the difference between the chin, lips and nose area of 6.55 Thancred and 7.0 Thancred:
https://i.imgur.com/4cEf3eH.gif

(I didn't label this, but the 6.55 face is where the Archon marks are closer together on the neck)

I think by isolating this area it's quite clear to see:

• The nose has been narrowed - Thancred's 6.55 nose was wider and fuller than Midlander 1's
• The lips are hugely changed - they were "fuller" before, with a poutier look and a larger upper lip, again unique from Midlander 1
• The philtrum is MUCH more pronounced on the 7.0 version
• The chin shape has changed

I won't give up on Thancred that easily and I hope that if we keep banding together we can get this noticed by the devs!

Classic allergic reaction puffy face. My viera female face 3 suffered from this too. She had a sharp jawline with cute puffy high cheek bones that turned into a swollen jaw and giant full puffy cheeks. She essentially looks like she had dental surgery and was stung by bees. It's the most common problem I've seen of the new face pictures, even the ones people say they don't see a difference, I do... and looks terrible. I hope they fix it, but I don't have hope.

Interesting from the gif, I can see the same issues I've been noticing on my female Midlander. Besides the main talked-about ones like the philtrum, there's also the nose being pulled downwards and the sides of the nostrils inwards, and the shadow between the bottom lip and chin fades away to a smaller semicircle directly below the lip instead of the larger bowtie or down-pointed crescent shape it had before that defined the shape of the chin.

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Originally Posted by Turethir

After the Lodestone post I am a little concerned that NPCs weren't mentioned, so I'd like to keep this thread live with examples.

Here's a GIF I made which shows the difference between the chin, lips and nose area of 6.55 Thancred and 7.0 Thancred:
https://i.imgur.com/4cEf3eH.gif

(I didn't label this, but the 6.55 face is where the Archon marks are closer together on the neck)

I think by isolating this area it's quite clear to see:

• The nose has been narrowed - Thancred's 6.55 nose was wider and fuller than Midlander 1's
• The lips are hugely changed - they were "fuller" before, with a poutier look and a larger upper lip, again unique from Midlander 1
• The philtrum is MUCH more pronounced on the 7.0 version
• The chin shape has changed

I won't give up on Thancred that easily and I hope that if we keep banding together we can get this noticed by the devs!

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Thank you for always posting GIF! It's really easy to see the difference when you stack them...

I don't want to give up either. Is it a lower priority because there are fewer requests for NPC than for player characters?

I wrote a lot of requests about Thancred on Japanese forums. (Many people agreed and supported us.)
Also, I have been speaking on social media, but I was disappointed that there was no news regarding NPC.
So, I posted again after the announcement...it's hard to accept that there is no news about NPC.
(there are several other people who have posted after the announcement)↓

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Originally Posted by Parisanparisan

「今回は、プレイヤーキャラクター」のグラフィックについてのお知らせということですが
以下の引用のお二人のご質問・要望・想いに全面的に同意します。
私も疑問に思ったことなので再度、投稿させていただきます。

※引用失礼致します。

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Originally Posted by azk525

プレイヤーキャラクターの調整/修正が最優先なのはもちろん理解しているのですが、
やはり個人的に一番気になっているサンクレッドに関する要望をもう一度だけ出させてください。
正直、今となっては自機以上に顔の変化が受け入れがたい状態です。（自機に関しては、7.1での調整を待ちたいと思います）



一日経って改めてスレを読んでいたのですが、こちらの比較を見るとやはり軽微では済まされない変化をしてしまっているように思います。（引用失礼いたします）
引用元や私の過去のフィードバックにもあるとおり、サンクレッドは顔のほとんどが独自パーツで構成されています。
いずれは元の印象に近づくよう修正をお願いしたいところですが、今回は吉田Pのコメントにあった修正点で気がかりな点をひとつ挙げさせてください。
彼の人相を大きく変えている原因のひとつである人中に7.1で手が入るとのことですが、これはサンクレッドも該当するのでしょうか？
6.xまでは大半が独自パーツでしたが、7.0以降は以前に比べてPCの汎用フェイスパーツに近寄ったような印象があります。
しかしながらキャラクリで再現しようとすると、微妙に違う顔になっているように思います。
となれば現在も（調整された）独自パーツを使用していることになるのですが、
そうするとミッドランダー男性1顔の人中に調整が入っても、サンクレッドには反映されないということになります。
他のNPC（ヤ・シュトラの口角など）は種族ごとの汎用パーツに手が入れば反映されることになるので、調整に期待が持てるのですが…
もし上記の通り、独自パーツ使用で反映されないのであれば、どうかサンクレッドの人中も目立たなくなるよう（元の印象に近づくよう）な修正をお願いしたいです。
本当に個人的な想いにはなってしまうのですが、私にとって暁の面々はとても大事な仲間です。
自機と共に歩み、自機を支え、苦楽を共にしてくれた人たちです。そんな仲間たちの顔（印象）が変わってしまったことを、とても悲しく、寂しく思います。
その中でもサンクレッドが特に別人級に変わってしまったので、こうしてフィードバックを出しています。

また、これらと同じ理由でアルフィノ、アリゼーの目にハイライトが入りにくくなった現象がどうなるかも気になっています。
彼らに至ってはすべて独自パーツで構成されているので、同様に目のハイライトの入り方に調整が入ったとき、反映されるかが気がかりです。

これらに関しても、再度検討をして頂けますと幸いです。よろしくお願いいたします。

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Originally Posted by Soria

運営の皆様へ、キャラクターのグラフィックアップデートについてのお知らせありがとうございます。
私が個人的に気になっていた点についてパッチ7.1ぐらいには戻るかもしれないという望みが出てきたので少し希望が持てました。


今回のお知らせを拝見して少し疑問に思ったことがあったのですが、
NPCの特殊フェイスタイプであるサンクレッドは今回のアップデートでかなり印象が変わってしまったと感じています。
（ぷっくりした唇が平らになってしまった、眉毛の下の黒い線が薄くなっている、眉毛が細くなっている、目頭当たりのアイラインが無くなっているなど）

こちらについては対応されるかどうか書かれていなかったので今後どうなるかわからず不安です。
サンクレッドもどうか印象が戻るように対応されることを願っています。


≪グラアプデ前≫
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWzEnIEW...name=4096x4096
≪グラアプデ後≫
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWzEclwa...name=4096x4096

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Originally Posted by Parisanparisan

Thank you for always posting GIF! It's really easy to see the difference when you stack them...

I don't want to give up either. Is it a lower priority because there are fewer requests for NPC than for player characters?

I wrote a lot of requests about Thancred on Japanese forums. (Many people agreed and supported us.)
Also, I have been speaking on social media, but I was disappointed that there was no news regarding NPC.
So, I posted again after the announcement...it's hard to accept that there is no news about NPC.
(there are several other people who have posted after the announcement)↓

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Did they yassify Thancred...?

Yeah im not seeing it....these post tend to confuse me with that. PLEASE show a comparison between the two.

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Originally Posted by Zakuyia

Yeah im not seeing it....these post tend to confuse me with that. PLEASE show a comparison between the two.

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I wanted to stick to silently upvoting this thread and comments but I'm really confused about your confusion. There's a comparison two posts above you. There's a ton of comparisons throughout the thread too...?

I agree! It really seems like they changed most of what, in my opinion, made Thancred's appearance so recognizable. Things like the shape of his lips and chin, the definition in his eyebrows, and the width of his nose. I really really hope this gets fixed someday </3