So, about us getting new media "all summer long"

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Also yes, 1.23 isn't next week >_>.

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Could be. Especially since they've already referenced more than one sub patch.

Unless they're going to do a patch per week in August, 1.23 should be some time next week.

Depends on how much time they want to leave us with to actually play this epic conclusion to the past two years on gaming.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Could be. Especially since they've already referenced more than one sub patch.

Unless they're going to do a patch per week in August, 1.23 should be some time next week.

Depends on how much time they want to leave us with to actually play this epic conclusion to the past two years on gaming.

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Yeah that's why I'm betting the lettered patches coincide perfectly with Gamescom then just before Alpha, since 1.23b for example could be the CS that leads into 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Colino

I don't mind either, but please don't make the rather wild assumption that giving us information would somehow delay the actual release. They're really different things.

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I'll admit that I am assuming that a delay in the release of information could signify a delay - or at least an uncertainty that a delay could be possible - but I don't see how that's a "wild" assumption. You say that I shouldn't make this assumption, but I do not immediately see any other logical conclusion, nor do I see why I should not be allowed to express my opinion as such. One delay is usually accompanied by others in the game development world. Your post leaves me bewildered and confused.

You assuming information is delaying, while information is scheduled for august. You see the problem ?
this "all summer long" horse it's already beated enough, keep it to august as it should

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Originally Posted by Starlord

How about we stop thinking the worse for once and actually look forward to 1.23 next week hmm? Sounds like a plan to me ^.^

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I'll 2nd that ^^

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Yeah that's why I'm betting the lettered patches coincide perfectly with Gamescom then just before Alpha, since 1.23b for example could be the CS that leads into 2.0.

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Still, if it's going to be the "classic Final Fantasy boss battle" they're promising, people may need more than a week or two to beat it.

Organized linkshells may not have trouble with it, but more social groups may not be so lucky. Speculatively, of course.

New information all summer doesn't equal constant information all summer.

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Originally Posted by Ryans

New information all summer doesn't equal constant information all summer.

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lol? We've hardly had ANY information, let alone new or constant information. I know there's reasons behind this, but c'mon...it's been at least a month since we've heard or seen anything interesting.

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Originally Posted by Ryans

New information all summer doesn't equal constant information all summer.

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The trouble is it's all very subjective.

To whom is it new?

At what frequency and quantity does something need to occur to have taken place all summer long?

You're statement is inherently flawed because you're essentially saying "new all summer long doesn't mean new all summer long."

At this point it's pretty obvious SE was just blowing smoke. No matter how anyone spins it mid-August through September is the end of summer.

Does it matter? No.

In a week we'll get 1.23 and people will be pacified for two weeks till Gamescom.

If there was 1 day that the forums didn't go nuts over anything.. it'd be a miracle!

I've come to a point now where I don't really believe anything SE says, especially regarding this game. Just kick back and wait, it'll be here at some point. Not much else we can do anyway.

This "flood" of information is, at best, a light drizzle. It's a bit of a let down but not by any means surprising. This is Square-enix after all.

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Originally Posted by LittleBraver

This "flood" of information is, at best, a light drizzle. It's a bit of a let down but not by any means surprising. This is Square-enix after all.

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Yes it is Square/Enix, the companies that gave (most) of our childhood games from Final Fantasy to Chrono Trigger to Seiken Densetsu to Dragon Warrior/Quest.

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Originally Posted by LittleBraver

This "flood" of information is, at best, a light drizzle. It's a bit of a let down but not by any means surprising. This is Square-enix after all.

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I give up explaining but I'll leave it one last time:

August= Flood

Argue about it then, if the flood isn't a flood to you or anyone else.

Thank you =)

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I give up explaining but I'll leave it one last time:

August= Flood

Argue about it then, if the flood isn't a flood to you or anyone else.

Thank you =)

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Flood was used at the same time as "all summer long" I didn't realize Summer had been officially condensed into one month.

edit: And Elexia, while I enjoy your half-witted, empty responses to most posts in this forum.I'd like to remind you that I was referring to the validity of SE's claims not the quality of their previous titles.

"All summer long" okay great people have different ways of explaining "All Summer Long" as this thread proves :P.

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"All summer long" okay great people have different ways of explaining "All Summer Long" as this thread proves :P.

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Please explain. How many ways can you explain "all summer long"? I'ts... all...summer. You're dragging me down with the amount of stupid coming out of you.

Which they've already said they'll release weekly updates after Gamescom. While it isn't "all summer long" that's why I've said not to take it literally or you'll only be disappointed. Since when they state all summer long, getting 1 or two updates every few weeks till gamescom then after technically is all summer long.

While some expect it to be every day all summer they necessarily never stated that so it's left to interpretation in that regard since technically we have been getting updates throughout the summer thus far, just not exclusively related to 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Which they've already said they'll release weekly updates after Gamescom. While it isn't "all summer long" that's why I've said not to take it literally or you'll only be disappointed. Since when they state all summer long, getting 1 or two updates every few weeks till gamescom then after technically is all summer long.

While some expect it to be every day all summer they necessarily never stated that so it's left to interpretation in that regard since technically we have been getting updates throughout the summer thus far, just not exclusively related to 2.0.

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And now we're back to the "flood" part of that. Oh lawdy this could go on for ages!

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Please explain. How many ways can you explain "all summer long"? I'ts... all...summer. You're dragging me down with the amount of stupid coming out of you.

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I'm not saying " I" said anything I said "As this Thread Proves of have different ways of Explaining "All Summer Long".

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And now we're back to the "flood" part of that. Oh lawdy this could go on for ages!

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Indeed, since I've never believed in the 'flood' of info anyway, since it's truly not that difficult to load up fraps and capture WIP videos to show off on a teaser site like everyone else does.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Indeed, since I've never believed in the 'flood' of info anyway, since it's truly not that difficult to load up fraps and capture WIP videos to show off on a teaser site like everyone else does.

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We finally agree. Yay it's over!

Letter from the Producer, XXVIII (05/28/2012)

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The devs, Visual Works, Sound, PR—everyone did their part and the trailer itself was completed and ready for release at E3. But during our most recent global PR planning meeting, we came to the conclusion that the most effective way to introduce version 2.0 to the world would be with a flood of new material rather than just a trickle.

In order to make version 2.0 a success, we need to appeal to not only our current players (naturally!), but also as many new players as possible, including PS3 owners. I really am sorry for the changes to the roadmap, but I really hope you understand that they were made with appealing to as many of you as possible in mind. We want to place the highest priority on keeping the 2.0 development schedule on track and on time, and prepare a large-scale promotional campaign filled with mind-blowing stuff!

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...ngcampaign.jpg

I take the word of the producer and the official timeline more serrious than I do a community rep post meant to calm down forum goers foaming at the mouth for more 2.0 info.

Not that we won't get anything at all from now till August, but I wouldn't expect anything more than a few screenshots here and there.

Even though said word came from Yoshida..since Comm reps relay the word of the Director/Producer and Development teams.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Even though said word came from Yoshida..since Comm reps relay the word of the Director/Producer and Development teams.

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ding ding ding

They do, but you know as well as I do that their translations can be worded in such a way it causes this type of situation. Regardless of what they meant by information all summer long the big marketing campaign is planned for August. I wouldn't expect anything really major until then.

There's nothing that can be misinterpreted from a pdf with a giant arrow pointing directly to August. It's pretty clear that barring delays that's when to expect the trailer and a load of information.

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

They do, but you know as well as I do that their translations can be worded in such a way it causes this type of situation. Regardless of what they meant by information all summer long the big marketing campaign is planned for August. I wouldn't expect anything really major until then.

There's nothing that can be misinterpreted from a pdf with a giant arrow pointing directly to August. It's pretty clear that barring delays that's when to expect the trailer and a load of information.

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Exactly, I said just this till I was blue in the face ~.~. *Pops and explodes everywhere*

Yeah, I think the problem a lot of people have with it is....

They could easily add in concept art from the Japan expo to the website...so why not a video of the character creator? That's not a trailer, it's just a video of the updated character creator.

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

[COLOR="red"][B]Letter from the Producer, XXVIII (05/28/2012)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...ngcampaign.jpg

I take the word of the producer and the official timeline more serrious than I do a community rep post meant to calm down forum goers foaming at the mouth for more 2.0 info.

Not that we won't get anything at all from now till August, but I wouldn't expect anything more than a few screenshots here and there.

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i agree with you on this, granted i am always excited to see something new posted on lodestone regarding any updates but i'm in no means ranting and raving because SE hasn't showered me with information.

Threads disappearing fast. <.<

Best not to mentions Versus here.

erp..

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i agree with you on this, granted i am always excited to see something new posted on lodestone regarding any updates but i'm in no means ranting and raving because SE hasn't showered me with information.

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Me neither. It's not really the lack of information that rattles me, it's more how unclear they are. One time they say August, then they say all summer, or "soon". I understand they are busy and priorities and timing can change, but a bit more clarity would be nice.

In the end it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it does some people.

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Threads disappearing fast. <.<

Best not to mentions Versus here.

erp..

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Oh no, what have you done?

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Threads disappearing fast. <.<

Best not to mentions Versus here.

erp..

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I can hear the troops designed to sweep this under the rug approaching. Quickly let's wrap up the promo convo before it's too late! I'll throw a challenge to SE to show us stuff that's impressive to anyone.

The screenshots/videos should make a point clearly that this is a completely new game as opposed to the one they remember from the reviews.

I'd guess just more of the same (plain) plains are not going to cut it.

Hmm. Got 2.0 screenshots and artwork in June. Getting 1.23 this month. Getting a wealth of 2.0 information and media in August.

Sounds like a summer's worth of material for me.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Hmm. Got 2.0 screenshots and artwork in June. Getting 1.23 this month. Getting a wealth of 2.0 information and media in August.

Sounds like a summer's worth of material for me.

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The "wealth of information" was promised after the E3 expo. When the teaser site was released it was just that, a tease. It was just the e3 screens and concept art all piled into one place. The only thing they've put up after that is concept art of the new starting RSE. Also 1.23 has nothing to do with 2.0 information so I have no idea why you bothered throwing that one out there.

Given SE's track record of disappointment...they really should choose their words wisely. >.> Is it really that hard to say "We won't have much of anything at all until August as planned" if they did of course people would "cry" about it but they'd get over it >.>

I think it upsets people more when SE says crap like "all summer long" and then it ends up being...the last month of summer (i have no idea, just an example) vs them just being realistically honest. They have this bad track record of hyping stuff up and then turns out it was not worth the hype...at all. At least that was my experience in XI.

I loved XI but they would hype up the new stuff a LOT then when it was released it would not live up to its hype. Like the new avatars for example...summoners were waiting for years (literally, yes) for new avatars....then they announced what..in 06 (idk for sure, im probably wrong) that we would be getting some. FINALLY 09 comes around and we get them and then apparently we can only summon them with our 2 hr...yeah big let down. So anyway...SE need to stop this crap with the lets try to hype then disappoint lol.

To be fair though Odin and Alexander completely changed quite a lot of content, Absolute Virtue for one. Their power was way too strong (based on SMN) to be natural avatars just like Atomos clearly was (only Cait Sith will be coming this year.)

So like I said, I think the main problem is they're holding out for something big rather than stuff overtime regarding 2.0, it's not hard to snap more screenshots or take a quick video of making an ugly male miqote. They did it 1-2 months before release of 1.x, so...

Will everyone just "shut up" and wait for August its only less than 1 month away till we get a lot of information.. is everyone so butt-hurt that they can't just realize in 1 month we be getting information lots of it?It's really not that far away... and on top of that 9/1/2012 the Final Fantasy Anniversary Event...

Sorry for the use of bad word.. but this is getting a little ridiculous. SHUN YOU SE FOR SAYING "All summer long" when they specifically said from Yoshida's Mouth that they are flooding the information on the Promotional Campaign which is less than 1 month from now.

1 Month... 30 days... can you handle it? (Technically 25 days).

Edit: Now I feel better Good day everyone

Maybe you could quit getting your panties in a bunch everytime someone has the audacity to try and hold a company accountable for something that they stated themselves. The horror, the horror.

Seriously, half of your posts now you're just being downright rude. You're the one that needs to quit being so "butt-hurt".

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Maybe you could quit getting your panties in a bunch everytime someone has the audacity to try and hold a company accountable for something that they stated themselves. The horror, the horror.

Seriously, half of your posts now you're just being downright rude. You're the one that needs to quit being so "butt-hurt".

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Just speaking the truth on what has been said thus far, nothing more.. nothing less.