Relm Arrowny Job (aka Pictomancer)

Great concept, the armor looks fun, and the weapon has a lot of potential for cool brushes and palettes. I also quite like some of the skill effects and didn't even find the Moogle beam to be all that offensive.

I could do without the squelching sounds though, and the paint splatter texture looks a little flat and out of place. I quite like the similar effect on the Byakko crafted weapons though, so maybe it's just the bright colours making it look a little off to me on a first impression.

I thought it was a joke at first. I was even on my seat thinking, "That Yoshi-P sure does like to trollol sometimes." Then imagine my horror when I realized it was real.

If other players out there like it, that's fine. But I can't help but see this as SE's flagship is headed right towards the iceberg. The most positive thing I took from the trailer was that they actually used a female Midlander to display a new job, but then my thoughts shifted to, "They used a female Midlander to display this job." The concept does not work for this game, and even if trying to shoehorn it in, everything from the battle effects to the gear is well below the established standards for FFXIV.

I know the job might be up to par when it comes to how it performs in game. This is coming purely from what we have seen in the past when they preview new jobs coming to the game. Remember the flare of RDM, and SAM's impression of raw power? Remember DNC's elegance and beauty, and GNB's homage to the fan favorite Squall Lionhart? How about SGE's tribute to Gundam, and RPR being the DRK everyone had been asking for?

What happened, SE? Seriously. WTF happened?

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Originally Posted by Gemina

If other players out there like it, that's fine. But I can't help but see this as SE's flagship is headed right towards the iceberg.
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This is coming purely from what we have seen in the past when they preview new jobs coming to the game.

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I agree with you on this, plus for those who were looking for a new caster for 6-7 years (Stormblood was released in June 2017) seeing what other roles got compared to this is disheartening for at least me. My positive take away on the job is that it's going to at least not be tied down at being a support job like Red Mage is currently like I was hoping for. I do plan to give the job a fair try before making a full opinion as I have been looking for a replacement caster after Summoner was changed in 6.0 and not really feeling the current 3. But if I feel that job is not a good fit to play, I hope we don't have to wait another 6 to 7 years for a new caster again plus I would hope that does not fall into the support category.

However, I do hope the developers make some changes to the job quickly, such as the sloshing and squishing sound effects as I think it will get annoying after running the job for a period of time. As well as I hope they update the vfx of the attacks, I get that it has to have the painted feel to the attacks to it, but they just look bland to me. Take a look at the Demon Chadarnook fight in Sigmascape V2.0 the paintings there did not have a poorly rendered animation instead they looked like the actual proper vfx effect after the paint was applied (waterfall to weaken the fire aoe, the rock to block the flood attack), even the boss attacks were also not paint splashes as well despite pulling effects from the images. I mean they can still keep the paint part but transition the effect to look what the actual animation is depicting (such as the ice and Titan Gaol attack).

Love it. So fun and colourful. First time we are getting a really cutesy job.

I think that this is a really good way to get players who aren't normally interested in the Caster DPS aesthetic to try it out. It's an exciting enough concept that I would consider maining it if I wasn't already torn between two melee DPS possibilities.

From a practical standpoint, I'm worried that this won't resolve the balance issues within the Caster DPS role category. It seems like every non-BLM Caster is relegated to being a 'support Caster' (read: dps disadvantage). I'd like to see the new jobs actually dethrone the 'selfish DPS' side of things for once, in the interest of seeing new comps.

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Originally Posted by Cidel

Enjoy your black, flowing robes.

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This job is the real reason they're upgrading the way dyes work.

Cool, I guess, but I can't imagine making this job stylistically work for a highlander character. Or most of the races, really. Feels like they went so hard on the goofball style it probably only really fits lalas, go figure.

I don't think I've had such a visceral "not for me" reaction on pure aesthetic before besides Ninja (because that damn Naruto run looks doubly idiotic on any character taller than 5 feet), and at least I had to actually try Ninja first.

I think the job makes sense. There aren't too terribly many magical DPS job archetypes to work with from the Final Fantasy series (and Green Mage and Time Mage would be weird as anything other than a dedicated buffer/debuffer role that is absent from this game), so I get it. Not for me, but I get it.

However, I pretty much tuned out completely whenever Yoshi-P felt the need to announce that there would be instant-casts for the Job. I mean, I assumed that there would be seeing as how the recent homogeneous job design seems allergic to hard casts, but it specifically being point out in the presentation makes me think it will be egregious. Why even separate magic DPS and ranged DPS at this point? Do casters not like casting spells?

I'm very much looking forward to another caster not beholden to the raise-tax. Probably won't replace Blm as my favourite but I'm looking forward to the SLOSH

i still cannot believe this is a legit class in FFXIV, the concept is fine, i guess but those Rodger Rabbit, Disney style cartoon brush strokes make me want to log off and never log back in. Its like a 5 year olds wet dream, so out of place.

Opinion aside, the spell effects they showed are just really low quality compared to, for instance, EW jobs' visual offerings. Even if the style isn't going to change, I hope the quality at least improves between now and release. The yellow rock explosion spell was especially off-putting.

My question is those blobs of paint going to affect you being able to see AOE attacks. Is it going to make it harder for small characters to see in battle. I know some spells with bright light attacks causes me not to see attacks.

Why is the character constantly and weirdly winking/giggling when looking at her brush ?

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Originally Posted by Teno

Why is the character constantly and weirdly winking/giggling when looking at her brush ?

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When you do drawing from life you hold your brush or pencil or whatever up at arms length and close one eye to help with depth perception, proportion etc etc. It's not winking lmao

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Originally Posted by Lyth

I think that this is a really good way to get players who aren't normally interested in the Caster DPS aesthetic to try it out. It's an exciting enough concept that I would consider maining it if I wasn't already torn between two melee DPS possibilities.

From a practical standpoint, I'm worried that this won't resolve the balance issues within the Caster DPS role category. It seems like every non-BLM Caster is relegated to being a 'support Caster' (read: dps disadvantage). I'd like to see the new jobs actually dethrone the 'selfish DPS' side of things for once, in the interest of seeing new comps.

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My general hope from a gameplay perspective is it falls more in line with Monk, Dragoon or Reaper competing with Samurai. In general, the Melee have been pretty well balanced except for some hiccups with Reaper. The big issue has always been Raise. Thankfully, Picto won't be plagued with that problem. I'm hoping they announce Resurrection (SMN) and Verraise die too. So they can properly balance the Casters. Sadly, I suspect SMN will lose their raise but RDM will be saddled with it for another expansion and once again end up the forgotten child.

I expect pictomancer's abilities to be paint by the numbers.

I like the class. We've been shown 6 skills. 4 of these serve to show you'll be using 4 different elements. Fire, Ice, Earth, and Air alongside a summon attack in lieu of a Moogle firing a laser beam. We will call that Moogle Beam for now. And sixth skill which I think we do not know what it eactly does where you draw a painting with shooting stars which I expect is reminiscent of Relms Desperation Attack Star Prism.

What's more is that the class may possibly have unique casting animations with the way you move with the brush.

Now onto what we can say for sure.

Pictomancer

Ranged Magical DPS

Casting Gear

Instant Cast Spells and Abilities, Cooldown based Painting/Sketch attacks along with Hardcasted Spells

Starting Location: Gridania

Weapon: Paintbrush

Works in the medium of mixed aether, wielding a specialized brush to render their imagining's reality.
These creations include not only creatures and weapons, but landscapes as well.
As evoking such wonders takes time, the pictomancer also keeps instant-cast abilities and spells at the ready.

The pictomancer channels offensive elemental magic by creating a variety of artwork. In addition to hard-cast spells, they also have several instant cast actions, similar to other magical ranged DPS. They will also be able to buff nearby allies, similar to Red Mage or Summoner. They will not have access to a resurrection spell.

Given they cannot raise party members I would expect they either do high damage on par with BLM or they buff party members with their other abilities in a similar vein to WoW's Evoker or any other support class in MMOs that focuses on giving out buffs to the party so while you damage might be otherwise low you provide lots of DPS through your party.

Relm Star Prism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBKGqJOTLgs

Inspiration for some skills seems to be derived from Opera Omnia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzB56kk-s8Y

If I have anything bad to say it's that Picto will probably be a Cooldown based job which probably means that the combat will double down on it's 2 minute meta design but until more information is available I'll reserve judgment.

Still the job class is more exciting to me then Viper is so I am looking forward to it.

If the job is based on Relm from FFVI, does this mean our LB crashes the game and corrupts our save data?

Nice idea.
Its similary to Sai from Naruto. Fill from Black clover. Or the samurai from One Piece.

And, its magic that can be used to entertaining people (most spell schools in Aetheris is only able to hurt or heal someone, its missing uses for the daily life or entertaining).

But, the class didnt fit me (waiting to see, how its playing). Its looks to happy and im not a artist.

Im a black mage and stay in the abyss, while i use the dark magic (or im jumping out of the abyss as a dragoon -only to fall on the floor-).^^

I bet that the mechanics will revolve around a pallette gauge that you collect colors on from filler spells and the resulting combination allows access to different long cast times (painting the actual picture). I think I wanted to expect something more unique because this looks like a mix of Sen + Mudras, though.

Regardless, If it ends up to be a 'combination system' I just want it to offer diversity of resource expenditure rather than just X for single target, Y for aoe.

Can you elaborate? How would you do it? Not disagreeing, I hope it’s an interesting mechanic, but how would you do it?

I was already not a fan of the concept but was willing to give it a chance. After the job trailer, I'm incredibly disappointed. So far, I am incredibly whelmed by everything they have announced about Dawntrail. The most exciting news has been two dye channels and that's just sad.

I wonder how its going to work... Everytime I look at Krile holding that Paint brush and Palette I cant help but to focus on the Palette and think about Eureka Magia Board From Field Operations in Stormblood.