These forums are a minority, endwalker was great

We are majority when we riot

We are minority when playing victim card

I thought it was neat
https://media.tenor.com/In9MT-M6DM8A...er-tantrum.gif

*sings* I fell into a burning ring of fire...

It reminded me of Mass Effect 3. It starts off strong, then kinda peters out into a deadline-induced mess.

Sure was! Mostly ignore the forums now, mostly a complete waste of energy.

A lot of the EW criticism comes from the lack of shelf life of the content added. Most of the patch added 5 to 10 hours of content every 2 month, which gave nearly no reason/incentive to redo the content. You can have the best story and best content, without shelf life, a lot of people will get bored. With all the old content, people up to date with content up until ShB have felt that the strongest, but give us another extension like that, and that feeling might grow as more people finish the content available. (at least for people here for the game content, and not the social aspect of the mmo).

EW is great it cured my FFXIV addiction /jk-a-bit

Thank God yoshi sneed only reads the jp forums

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Thank God yoshi sneed only reads the jp forums

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They're saying the same thing, though.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Thank God yoshi sneed only reads the jp forums

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Couldn't help but flashback Dr. Seuss with that lol.

Star-Bellied Sneetches wearing star-bellied sneeds walking and thneeding what thneeding was their great need, screatching and reaching, far and wide, the tears could be heard from all inside, from the trees of the SE headquarters there was a wonderous YoshiP, he who was watching and had given a great sneeze!

And then he said something like JP ONLY*. Classic story. Lol :D


More seriously though, while I imagine a lot of developers have a higher /chance/ to be reading in their preferred language (I imagine that is like 99.9% Japanese).. from what I recall from long ago they collect feedback across all the forums and then parse it out to the related people who may want that info. In which case feedback is likely filtered (accidently and purposefully) and all delivered in Japanese. Or in another way I strongly believe they get feedback from all sources, given what I've seen and personally gave feedback myself, though a lot of it has to be in the realm of faith and 'seems to be the case' since we don't have specific examples of SE interacting with us much (including Japanese) because they don't really talk 'back' much. More of a one directional system where it temporarily shifts at live letters.



*Context: "JP ONRY" For those who didn't play FFXI, like 20 years ago @_@, it was sort of a meme because it was not uncommon for non-Japanese speaking players to be not allowed, or even kicked out of, Japanese groups. They, earlier in the game's life span, I doubt it now, didn't want to play with you lol (some people attempt to make excuses for or against, whatever- the situation was they, not all, would frequently exclude players who couldn't speak Japanese). You can see JP ONLY (sometimes literally said like that as I saw a few friends get it haha), and ONLY was 'somehow' changed to JP ONRY.. somehow.. lol

The base endwalker expansion was great, barring some weird plot choices and the like.

The patches have sucked huge quantities of butt.

These forums are great, Endwalker is a minority

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

The base endwalker expansion was great, barring some weird plot choices and the like.

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I mean base EW I'd rate below HW, SHB story wise but yeah the base story was pretty good, I found there was plenty of bad pacing and slow moments in EW if I'm honest (not to say the other expansions were that much better).

The patch story... I was looking foward to it but it was honestly almost as bad as ARR to me lol.

Maybe it's that's a hot take that In general I found EW story prob worse then SB (I think it had clearly higher moments, but lower lows), I do actually enjoy the story though to a degree. I also think scions have become really just dull at this point which is making me not looking foward to DT story.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Thank God yoshi sneed only reads the jp forums

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Totally. The English Forum General Discussion is full of snowflake trolls who squirms whenever they see someone liking Endwalker.

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Originally Posted by Yuella

Totally. The English Forum General Discussion is full of snowflake trolls who squirms whenever they see someone liking Endwalker.

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Thank god the EW lovers don't troll around. Like spamming "EW was great!1!" and "Why does this topic have a million pages" posts in that one thread or making such a troll topic like this one... or could you imagine... mocking the 1 topic about critique of the EW story and replacing EW with an expac that isn't out yet (twice even)! Now THAT would be trolling around!

I'm not even sure who's trolling who around here anymore, but someone's definitely taking someone's bait and swallowing it whole.

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I'm not even sure who's trolling who around here anymore, but someone's definitely taking someone's bait and swallowing it whole.

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Oh my... （*´▽｀*） ~♥

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Keep crying about it, you're never getting TP back and that's a good thing. This game isn't for you anymore.

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Just wait till u start the patch content

Endwalker is mid because it isn't Risky Woods for the Sega Genesis.

https://i.imgur.com/RlbstJb.jpg

Eh, it's no Abadox: The Deadly Inner War.

https://images.launchbox-app.com/468...2bffb83aab.png

It's definitely not Threads of Fate for the Ps1. (ಥ﹏ಥ)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...pg_UX1200_.jpg

I'd say Endwalker has been the 'experimentation' expansion, for better and for worse. New PvP was a success, a lot of the QoL features like Adventurer Plates, Portraits, and adjustments to fashion accessories have only improved the game, and Island Sanctuary was a good way to fix the 'no outdoor furnishings' problem. Oh, and Variant/Criterion are wonderful, just add Savage-level Tome Weapons to the Savage versions as glam options, and maybe implement it retroactively.

On the other hand, I think we can safely argue that the '2 minute meta' wasn't very popular with raiders as a whole, and that some jobs suffered pretty badly this expansion. Raiding could've also been a bit less stressful, as forcing raiders to do DSR into Abyssos into TOP into Anabaseios caused a ton of burnout amongst raiders, with several statics I know breaking up as a result of the stress.

As for what I'd want for Dawntrail, I'd like to see the game throw off some of the more questionable server/Data Center restrictions, add a Cross-DC Party Finder, open up region travel so I can visit my friends in NA, take it easy with the Savage and Ultimates, and maybe add some form of lifestyle content that provides people with an upgradeable house interior.

Endwalker patch content story was too JRPG for me. What is it with Japanese fascination with "power of friendship" anyway.

Just going to put it out there. No one besides SE has the data necessary to make a statement like the OP, nor do they have the data necessary to state otherwise. There are a lot of stats out there that you can make inferences from, but you're lying if you think you can tell me the thoughts and feelings of the vast majority of the playerbase.

I, personally, found Endwalker to be great.
It's fitting for the last chapter of the Hydaelyn storyline and I think the story winding down a bit and be more relaxed in post expac updates is, in my opinion, only logical. We already had the finale, now we just bridge the time to the next expansion.

How about, what if, everyone didn't care what everyone else thinks so much?

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How about, what if, everyone didn't care what everyone else thinks so much?

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then the forums wouldn't be as fun as they are. 90% of the forums is just the same few people fighting over who has the better opinion.

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How about, what if, everyone didn't care what everyone else thinks so much?

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But why else have social media at all?

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It's definitely not Threads of Fate for the Ps1. (ಥ﹏ಥ)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...pg_UX1200_.jpg

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This is the worst action RPG I have ever enjoyed to the point I still listen to a Chance Meeting

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Originally Posted by Volgia

This is the worst action RPG I have ever enjoyed to the point I still listen to a Chance Meeting

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It's OST is amazing and Mint is one of my favorite characters in any media. (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Keep crying about it, you're never getting TP back and that's a good thing. This game isn't for you anymore.

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It was pretty boring.

The game is for people who only play during the free log in campaign now.

Doesn't matter who a minority is...

Doesn't matter who the majority is either...

and this is regardless of whether they have a positive or negative outlook. A complaint should be worth looking at, even if a minority hold this opinion, even if just for seeing the feasibility of it - and whether such changes might impede on a subset of players.

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Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage

The game is for people who only play during the free log in campaign now.

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Good, I would rather play with them than you. Go back to wow.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Good, I would rather play with them than you. Go back to wow.

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Im not even sure what you are trying to say, other than just "wow bad".

You'd rather play with people who are only playing on a free log in campaign rather than people who pay a sub? A player of a free login campaign is probably not going to be a player who is passionate about the game. They are probably people who even play WoW on the regular.

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Im not even sure what you are trying to say, other than just "wow bad".

You'd rather play with people who are only playing on a free log in campaign rather than people who pay a sub? A player of a free login campaign is probably not going to be a player who is passionate about the game. They are probably people who even play WoW on the regular.

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Don't bother. I'm pretty convinced that this guy is just a shitpost character of the "WoW bad, XIV perfect" variety that exists solely to rile people up...doesn't particularly help that we have people on this forum who genuinely have that opinion.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

doesn't particularly help that we have people on this forum who genuinely have that opinion.

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No dev will read your ideas or implement them lmao

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Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage

The game is for people who only play during the free log in campaign now.

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Here in a few months that's going to be me.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Good, I would rather play with them than you. Go back to wow.

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Been having more fun on WoW in the last 3-4 weeks then I have with Endwalker even on expansion launch.

Keep coping, troll harder. I'm sure you'll totally change the minds of dissatisfied players with your pathetic "go back to WoW" retorts lmao

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Why are you still subbing for FFXIV then?

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Estate, plus I still get to play whenever I get the itch. Not like I'm quitting the game, just not fun imo right now. Nothing really to keep me engaged in Endwalker