Revelations from NA Fan Fest (July 2023)

Does corsair make the warrior of light fireproof? Cus that cloak was literally burning off him and he's just like ".... /smirk". I think derplander might be broken, guys. lol



Also, wanna point out that armory changes in battle were used in Shadowbringers' trailer, so him fighting with just a sword may not mean anything except that he's a paladin who had his shield knocked out of his hand before that clip. Also a little backed up by him not caring his clothes are on fire-- cus he can just change them.

Not that gun and blade dual wielding wouldn't be cool.


Also, its kinda weird that the hood being tossed back is in the last scene when, presumably, he'll be losing the hood in the fight with Gulool (sp?) in the middle of the trailer. Maybe that final scene on the ship is out of order in relation to the final trailer? His face and new hair wouldn't be much like the reveal its treated as by that shot if we already saw it in that fight beforehand.

Or there's an armory change in that fight to gear that hides his face still, thus the reveal at the end is preserved.

Teenage MUTANT Ninja Turtles. Mutant = X-Men = Cyclops. Cyclops father is Corsair. And he dual-wields sword/pistol

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/9e...964ee9a541.jpg

I just want to say that I think the miqotes in our party look much better in this trailer than they did in Endwalker. Am I alone in thinking that? They looked a bit alien to me there, but in this they look more like their SHB versions. Well, Y'shtola does at least; we only saw G'raha's mouth and lower jaw in that one. lol But still, I stand by my assertion.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Maybe the contest for the Golden Throne is only the first half of the story, and upon reuniting the scions we journey north to discover a greater threat, a threat to all of Yok Tural.

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I had a slightly crazy thought. What if the two sides in contention for the throne are each of Gulool's heads? If they treat him (or them, in this idea) like conjoined twins instead of some kind of strange joint hivemind or something, then maybe the brothers(?) are the ones fighting. And we basically have the scions breaking down in to "left gang" and "right gang". lol

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Originally Posted by SannaR

He looks more of a oh crap why am I being swarmed again.

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Yeah, I think he might be having a flashback to The Great Work. When we're the amazing friends that we are and leave him to the mob again, I hope we actually join Urianger in praying for his soul this time. Its only right. :)

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Originally Posted by Yuella

Teenage MUTANT Ninja Turtles. Mutant = X-Men = Cyclops. Cyclops father is Corsair. And he dual-wields sword/pistol

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/9e...964ee9a541.jpg

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That's Scott Summers' father? lol

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

Does corsair make the warrior of light fireproof? Cus that cloak was literally burning off him and he's just like ".... /smirk". I think derplander might be broken, guys. lol



Also, wanna point out that armory changes in battle were used in Shadowbringers' trailer, so him fighting with just a sword may not mean anything except that he's a paladin who had his shield knocked out of his hand before that clip. Also a little backed up by him not caring his clothes are on fire-- cus he can just change them.

Not that gun and blade dual wielding wouldn't be cool.


Also, its kinda weird that the hood being tossed back is in the last scene when, presumably, he'll be losing the hood in the fight with Gulool (sp?) in the middle of the trailer. Maybe that final scene on the ship is out of order in relation to the final trailer? His face and new hair wouldn't be much like the reveal its treated as by that shot if we already saw it in that fight beforehand.

Or there's an armory change in that fight to gear that hides his face still, thus the reveal at the end is preserved.

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The Robe purpose is mostly just to hide the WoL and the outfit design for the Job he will be using to represent this Expansion especially if the Job he is using is one of the New Jobs for this expansion. So it is not a actual part of the Job outfit but a extra thing they added in the trailer to hide the actual Job outfit design which will not have the robe. The part when his robe is on fire is most likely the moment in the Full trailer when WoL removes the Robe to reveal the new Job he will be using to represent this Expansion.

The trailer is most likely intentionally out of order when the WoL's reveal with his new appearance and slight teaser to his outfit design to keep the mystery behind the new Job he will be using as the Representative Job for this expansion. If the Representative Job for this expansion is one of the new Jobs then it is very important for SE to keep it hidden until they are ready to reveal it in one of their upcoming Reveals or until the Full trailer reveal. Thus the use of the Robe in the trailer to hide the actual outfit design of the job the WoL is using until it gets "Burned off" in that fight moment during the full trailer.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I really dislike that quote. It feels like "making up silly things for tribes to believe in" and if it is indeed meant to describe a modern city then it locks them into some weird worldbuilding later.

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Modern city wasn't how I interpreted "grey monoliths", but now you've said that my brain is going "Nier Crossover pt 2". lol

Or, you know, Ancient remnants are also a possibility. We don't know anything about the cities across the sea back in the ancient times other than that they fell to the Final Days before Amaurot did. There could be some ruins left. Assuming the calamities were kind to them or they had protection.

Which reminds me, I wonder if we'll get anything to confirm if/how the umbral calamities actually impacted the new world when they happened? I've always been curious if the effects were localized to Eorzea/the three great continents or if they were actually global.

And if they were global, how did the other peoples, who would have absolutely no idea why things are flooding or icing over or catastrophic droughts are happening, explain them?. Would they have myths about it? Would they tie explanation for the calamities in to their own historical events?And will that be accurate (cus ascians didn't restrict themselves to calamity setup only in Eorzea) or will those attempts to explain the calamities be wrong? Will they also have the idea of a umbral/astral cycle? And how much of their understanding is influenced by their interactions with Eorzea? Especially if the interaction point is Sharlayan, land of scholars and historians.

I can’t believe the joke only now comes to me- but the citizens of Tuliyollal must be relieved that the giant meteor aiming to wipe out all local life (almost) hit another continent instead.

I'm a touch curious if there's going to be any fallout from the Final Days in Tural because with the turning incidents being a worldwide phenomena, I'd think there could be some lingering presence of beasts and/or blasphemies around.

I really hope Erenville gets a lot of screen time or is relatively important in Dawntrail. I adored him in EW! It'd be a bit wasteful of his character if he's just here to transport us back and forth from Tural.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Also seems Derplander is still PLD as he's wielding Lightbringer (PLD AF5 sword from EW), unless the full trailer to come later in the year features a Job change.

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Not convinced he is PLD. No shield for starters, and I'm not convinced his sword is Lightbringer:
Sword from Trailer:
https://i.imgur.com/o2asMNP.png

Lightbringer:
https://i.imgur.com/iXUg4kv.png

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

I had a slightly crazy thought. What if the two sides in contention for the throne are each of Gulool's heads? If they treat him (or them, in this idea) like conjoined twins instead of some kind of strange joint hivemind or something, then maybe the brothers(?) are the ones fighting. And we basically have the scions breaking down in to "left gang" and "right gang". lol

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Big love for this idea <3

A neat idea I've heard for where the conflict could go is, rather than Scions picking sides of a conflict, instead picking interference vs. non-intervention. Basically run with the actual conflict one might have about a psuedo-colonialist narrative, and have the party split based on 'is it right to take part in deciding who leads'.

I can immediately think where some would fall on that conflict (G'raha's clearly shown no issue with this and Estinien probably doesn't see a problem with it, while Urianger and Thancred would probably prefer to go hands-off), and a few characters that would probably take it more subjectively based on what's going on (Alisaie would absolutely base it on who's contending, Krile would likely defer to Galuf's previous journey). It'd be a fun way to explore the characters, to have the divide not based on which external forces are more compelling, but on how they personally feel about a thorny issue.

That's kind of the direction I was expecting things to go in, as well...though I'm also half-expecting there's going to be some foul play involved on the part of one of the political parties that ends up forcing them to get involved once it's exposed.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

That's kind of the direction I was expecting things to go in, as well...though I'm also half-expecting there's going to be some foul play involved on the part of one of the political parties that ends up forcing them to get involved once it's exposed.

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Yeah, I think a struggle with that idea on reflection is that while non-intervention is a perfectly justifiable stance on a moral perspective, from a player perspective it basically plays out as 'willingly not doing the fun thing', so they'd be forced into intervening anyway just so they don't sit out an entire expansion... which then feels like it abandons or insults the concept of non-intervention in the first place, so why bother giving it lip service?

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Not convinced he is PLD. No shield for starters, and I'm not convinced his sword is Lightbringer:
Sword from Trailer:
https://i.imgur.com/o2asMNP.png

Lightbringer:
https://i.imgur.com/iXUg4kv.png

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Yeah that was pointed out to me by a friend after I wrote that, so I happily concede on that point! :D

Not having a shield though isn't contraindicative of PLD though, as GLA doesn't even start with a shield, only a sword as the shield is technically optional equipment (and only like three abilities for GLA/PLD specifically require a shield to function).

Of course he could be using one of the two new Jobs that will use a special type of sword unrelated to GLA/PLD, but I'm pretty certain in that scene he's still PLD - he probably neglected the shield due to wanting to be 'edgy' and moving on from EW's "knight in shining armour" look, hence his rugged Errol Flynn-like piratey getup more befitting the 'wandering free adventurer' idea EW's post patch story has been pushing (and thus the 'Job change' is still to come with the full trailer proper once the Jobs are announced).

We'll have to wait and see though sadly! (Yoshi why must you torture us so?)

OK but will there be queens for us Hrothgar?!

(Hyped either way, eager to see what they do with the northern part of the continent whenever we get to it.)

Concerning the job, the footage shows a flame dropping from the burning clothes, that then transitions into Alisaie catching a fruit. It's probably just for a transition shot, but I was thinking oh, he is going to ignite his blade with that flame and be a Mystic Knight! Probably not though hah.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

3) I believe they mentioned it is a Scouting Armor Job

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While I would like to believe this, I didn't catch it in the presentation, and it would break the team's insistence on demanding NIN be really difficult to gear alongside other jobs. EW got us a second maiming, so maybe?

Corsair/Pirate would fit the expansion's theme, possibly, and Yoshida's t-shirt. It's a shame they've mostly avoided the sub-weapon slot for classes besides PLD and crafters, as having sword and gun as separate equips would make for neat flavor.

I think Beastmaster could work as a stretch, since we don't have a whip class yet and it would be a properly different weapon. The AF gear would be goofy as hell if they copied FF5, though.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

OK but will there be queens for us Hrothgar?!

(Hyped either way, eager to see what they do with the northern part of the continent whenever we get to it.)

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The fact they mentioned Hrothgar as being native to one of the regions leads weight to female Hrothgar though. I'm not sure they would be mentioned specifically if not to expand the lore, and provides the narrative reason to include them (they're not rare in the new world like they are in Bozja)

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Originally Posted by Cilia

OK but will there be queens for us Hrothgar?!

(Hyped either way, eager to see what they do with the northern part of the continent whenever we get to it.)

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I was a bit surprised and sad that they didn't give us a teaser with the higher res progress race head shots. I know that it was an unrealistic expectation, but it would have been one heck of a reveal.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

I was a bit surprised and sad that they didn't give us a teaser with the higher res progress race head shots. I know that it was an unrealistic expectation, but it would have been one heck of a reveal.

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I wouldn't have expected a reveal, but I feel like they should have maintained the half-and-half screen layout with a "coming soon(TM)" sort of thing on the other half of the screen, as an acknowledgement that they're working on it and they know people are eager to see the gap filled.

Is that Azdaja on the map next to the new world? Cause that looks very close to how she looks.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I wouldn't have expected a reveal, but I feel like they should have maintained the half-and-half screen layout with a "coming soon(TM)" sort of thing on the other half of the screen, as an acknowledgement that they're working on it and they know people are eager to see the gap filled.

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I also wasn't expecting a reveal at least not this Fan Fest. Though as you say an acknowledgement would have been nice. If only to remind those who are really looking forward to them that they haven't been forgotten.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Is that Azdaja on the map next to the new world? Cause that looks very close to how she looks.

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I think that's just a "here there be dragons" map flourish than anything that's supposed to actually mean anything.

There's also a dragon over the middle of the ocean in the far north west, much further out than even Sharlayan. It, the south western dragon, and a big bird in the southeast are all facing inwards to the map so there's probably another one behind Yoshi-P in the northest facing in too.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

While I would like to believe this, I didn't catch it in the presentation, and it would break the team's insistence on demanding NIN be really difficult to gear alongside other jobs. EW got us a second maiming, so maybe?

Corsair/Pirate would fit the expansion's theme, possibly, and Yoshida's t-shirt. It's a shame they've mostly avoided the sub-weapon slot for classes besides PLD and crafters, as having sword and gun as separate equips would make for neat flavor.

I think Beastmaster could work as a stretch, since we don't have a whip class yet and it would be a properly different weapon. The AF gear would be goofy as hell if they copied FF5, though.

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at this point it is very open since they are hiding it behind the Robe.

Keeping two weapons as one item is also easier to manage for them since it avoids loot build up if I remember right. It is why we no longer get Off-hand items for any job beyond Paladin these days and why they pushed away from giving shields to Black Mage and White Mage to sticking with Staffs only.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

Yeah, I think a struggle with that idea on reflection is that while non-intervention is a perfectly justifiable stance on a moral perspective, from a player perspective it basically plays out as 'willingly not doing the fun thing', so they'd be forced into intervening anyway just so they don't sit out an entire expansion... which then feels like it abandons or insults the concept of non-intervention in the first place, so why bother giving it lip service?

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Agreed. This ties overall into the valid apprehension about Dawntrail's writing. Not from Latam myself, but even the overwhelming racist tropes and the long painful history of colonialism and coups fostered by outside business interests meant that my biggest fear was that a New World expansion was going to blunder into them (I enjoy the Blue Mage questlines but small parts of it make me cringe, and it's one of the reasons why I love EW's Thanvair). Hence my deep relief that our impetus for going to Tural isn't tied solely to Eorzean interests, but I'm bracing myself for the Wol 's side backing the successor candidate that wants to open and maintain closer ties to Eorzea, and in-game framing it as the virtue of everyone working together and then fandom imploding because soft imperialism is still imperialism even when heroes do it. What little I've seen of Dawntrail and Tural is dodging my greatest fears while giving me what I want from the setting, and I am especially excited to get a thousand year old fallen empire to dungeon crawl through that isn't Allagan for once. The longer the contest of succession plotline proceeds without an outside villain derailing it, the more surprised I will be.

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Originally Posted by Denishia

Agreed. This ties overall into the valid apprehension about Dawntrail's writing. Not from Latam myself, but even the overwhelming racist tropes and the long painful history of colonialism and coups fostered by outside business interests meant that my biggest fear was that a New World expansion was going to blunder into them (I enjoy the Blue Mage questlines but small parts of it make me cringe, and it's one of the reasons why I love EW's Thanvair). Hence my deep relief that our impetus for going to Tural isn't tied solely to Eorzean interests, but I'm bracing myself for the Wol 's side backing the successor candidate that wants to open and maintain closer ties to Eorzea, and in-game framing it as the virtue of everyone working together and then fandom imploding because soft imperialism is still imperialism even when heroes do it. What little I've seen of Dawntrail and Tural is dodging my greatest fears while giving me what I want from the setting, and I am especially excited to get a thousand year old fallen empire to dungeon crawl through that isn't Allagan for once. The longer the contest of succession plotline proceeds without an outside villain derailing it, the more surprised I will be.

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Well considering the focus here is to find the Golden City (Thanks Emet for spoilering this), it is most likely going to be a Finding Eldorado journey compared to Colonialism.

Not to mention this is still a small area of the New World being explored and with the WoL returning to his/her roots as a Adventurer, I feel the New World story arc may focus a lot more on Exploring this New World one location at a time in each expansion.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

There's not super much to go off here, but the things I noticed from the keynote:

• I was literally joking about 'Beach Filler Episode', hot damn am I into it happening.
• Krile's the only Scion absent from the teaser (and Zero, but that's less suspicious for several reasons), so she is ABSOLUTELY gonna turn up with a new job.
• As one of the several people who named their chocobo 'Tritoch', I'm a pretty big fan of Valigarmanda turning up.
• A schism between the Scions over a war of succession does actually sound pretty good, but I'll tell you all right now, I know exactly which Scion I don't want on the side I pick.
• The first new zone is basically Fantasy Machu Picchu, and you know what, I'm happy: that is exactly number one on my list of places I'd want to go in a South America fantasy setting. The second zone is clearly the Amazon, which is also cool.
• Overall, big FFX vibes and even bigger FFIX vibes, what's not to love? (Well, the lack of blitzball, but we'll live)

I'm pretty happy about this one, all-up, which is a welcome chance from when I basically spent every single 'Endwalker hype' leadup event feeling bummed out that it wasn't doing stuff I wanted. I feel like that might be because Endwalker was the first expansion I was really around for the pre-release hype for (I was cognizant of Shadowbringers' leadup, but didn't really care outside of the Nier raids), so I unconsciously set my hopes wrong; not too high, per se, but more too specific. If you go in wanting Gelmorra and Chemist, and then get neither, you're not gonna like anything you do get.

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They're gonna knock it off right from Hunter x Hunter's current arc and have scions split due to the candidates they support aren't they?

What I was throwing around elsewhere is that perhaps each group of Scions is contacted by a different candidate, so Alphinaud, Alisaie, and Erenville support one member while Y'shtola, Thancer, and Urianger the other; and each group only has that candidate's version of events and that candidate's word on the other's character. Either this creates the schism because they've each been convinced their patron is being truthful, or the plan is actually to pretend to be split to gather information about both parties.

I would be tickled pink if it turns out there's a third candidate who swoops in out of nowhere to win the throne but I know they'd never do that because it'd make most of the story pointless. Likely we just find out that one of the candidates is sitting on a treasure trove of Allagan secrets and is planning to use it for conquest and guess we'll have to take care of them.

...that or we find out that the third candidate is actually the rightful heir that was hidden away for his protection and it just so happens that it's Erenville.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

They're gonna knock it off right from Hunter x Hunter's current arc and have scions split due to the candidates they support aren't they?

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With all due respect, that's such an obvious angle that guessing that would be like guessing Bowser's going to be the end boss of the next Mario game.

I highly doubt the "schism" with the Scions is going to be anything more than a friendly competition, maybe to see who can get to the Golden City first for instance. These people have saved the world too many times to suddenly turn on each other Avengers: Civil War style.

As for the teams, hard to say. I'm willing to bet that Alphinaud and Alisaie are gonna be on separate sides. Thancred and Urianger are the iconic duo, so they'll likely be in cahoots. Based off pure theories, I want to say Estinien will join their team due to his involvement in Thavnair with them at the beginning of Endwalker.

Krile is most definitely going to be the new caster. She's probably going to be the character pushed most into the spotlight.

There was mention of a lot more characters being added for duty support (not necessarily trust) but they did say several times they have a LOT of new cast members. I'm wondering if they'll start to filter out the Scions after this, preferring to venture with a mixture of old and new similar to current content. I don't really mind either way.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

A neat idea I've heard for where the conflict could go is, rather than Scions picking sides of a conflict, instead picking interference vs. non-intervention. Basically run with the actual conflict one might have about a psuedo-colonialist narrative, and have the party split based on 'is it right to take part in deciding who leads'.

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People like to bring up colonialism when talking about the new world a lot, but there isn't any colonialism going on so its rather invalid, imo. They send their own people to Eorzea as mercs and traders. They have trade relations with Radz-at-Han (I think). They have some kind of diplomatic ties to Sharlyan. Far as we've ever heard or seen, this isn't some virgin culture that we're deciding whether to build a fort on or not; they're just any other city state. And we've long been in the habit of beign involved in leadership choices in other city states. Aymeric, Hien, the Nadaam, Chai-Nuzz. Its never been a colonialism expy before, I don't see why it should be considered such now just cus the aesthetics of the area are South/Central American.

None of the above says you are wrong about the idea that the two sides might be "get involved" 'vs "don't get involved". It might very well be that. I just don't think colonialism enters in to it at all.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The fact they mentioned Hrothgar as being native to one of the regions leads weight to female Hrothgar though. I'm not sure they would be mentioned specifically if not to expand the lore, and provides the narrative reason to include them (they're not rare in the new world like they are in Bozja)

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Yeha, I think the chances of seeing female Hrothgar (and getting them playable) have significantly improved.

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

People like to bring up colonialism when talking about the new world a lot, but there isn't any colonialism going on so its rather invalid, imo. They send their own people to Eorzea as mercs and traders. They have trade relations with Radz-at-Han (I think). They have some kind of diplomatic ties to Sharlyan. Far as we've ever heard or seen, this isn't some virgin culture that we're deciding whether to build a fort on or not; they're just any other city state. And we've long been in the habit of beign involved in leadership choices in other city states. Aymeric, Hien, the Nadaam, Chai-Nuzz. Its never been a colonialism expy before, I don't see why it should be considered such now just cus the aesthetics of the area are South/Central American.

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There was a little bit. IIRC the BLU quest had an Eorzean guy who was trying to move the Whalaqee of their lands to mine Ceruleum, and they all got sick and were dying from Eorzean diseases they brought with them.

Limsa Lominsa were also the first ones who came to Tural from the east and followed it up with expeditions though the encyclopedia didn't exactly say what they were up to.

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

People like to bring up colonialism when talking about the new world a lot, but there isn't any colonialism going on so its rather invalid, imo.

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One of the only times the New World was previously in focus was the Blue Mage questline where an Eorzean merchant seeks to bring sacred Whalaqee land under his control because there's oil there, so the colonialist angle is kinda there.

But I'd love to see a story about the New World where it doesn't need to define itself against Eorzea in any fundamental way. I think it's nice if they're friends and trade and exchange ideas respectfully, a story that's kind of what could have been in our world as well. Or what might yet be.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

and they all got sick and were dying from Eorzean diseases they brought with them.

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Oh yeah true! But the guys who visited us got medication right?

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

People like to bring up colonialism when talking about the new world a lot, but there isn't any colonialism going on so its rather invalid, imo. They send their own people to Eorzea as mercs and traders. They have trade relations with Radz-at-Han (I think). They have some kind of diplomatic ties to Sharlyan. Far as we've ever heard or seen, this isn't some virgin culture that we're deciding whether to build a fort on or not; they're just any other city state. And we've long been in the habit of beign involved in leadership choices in other city states. Aymeric, Hien, the Nadaam, Chai-Nuzz. Its never been a colonialism expy before, I don't see why it should be considered such now just cus the aesthetics of the area are South/Central American.

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I don't think the problem is as simple as 'the story says there's not colonialism so don't think about it like that'. It's sort of an inevitable specter around a story where the base pitch is 'a bunch of white people (who are generally from a European-analogue location even if geographically it's more Africa) go to the unsettled America-analogue'; even if you're not doing a colonialist story, there's a lot of tropes you could accidentally fall into. Which, in fact, they've already been doing: we've been calling it 'the New World' until now, which is... not great.

Perhaps fortunately, the lore and translation panel from FanFest did make a point of basically saying 'we know we haven't been the best at this in the past, we're making an effort to do better with Dawntrail specifically'.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

While I would like to believe this, I didn't catch it in the presentation, and it would break the team's insistence on demanding NIN be really difficult to gear alongside other jobs. EW got us a second maiming, so maybe?

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Are you joking about the "team's insistence" that NIN is hard to gear? Sounds unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Eisi

One of the only times the New World was previously in focus was the Blue Mage questline where an Eorzean merchant seeks to bring sacred Whalaqee land under his control because there's oil there, so the colonialist angle is kinda there.

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Yes, but he was a villain and we were opposed to it.

At least, I still haven't gotten past Azulmagia and I assume we don't have a change of heart later.

The Whalaqee tribe is also likely to be from the "North America" continent and not in the region we're visiting. (I was going to say "not in Tural" but then we haven't been told how far that label spreads.)

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

a European-analogue location even if geographically it's more Africa

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I really don't think it was ever meant to be Africa, or if anything only the southern desert is a displaced bit of Africa while the rest sailed south as Meracydia. The cultures line up better to Aldenard being Europe and then Ilsabard/Othard both being Asia. Othard mimics the shape of Asia, but Russia is missing, and I bet we'll find Ilsabard has its outline when they finally lift the clouds over it.

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On a tangent... where's the best place to get high resolution files of the various maps?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

On a tangent... where's the best place to get high resolution files of the various maps?

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I got mine off reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._dawntrail_70/

Exactly that- and because there hasn't been a plethora of mainstream fantasy stories that use LatAm culture as inspiration for characters or setting (understatement) and when it has, what was given was racist tropes. Thus why a common reaction from XIV fans from Latin America have been what they are, that same excitement mixed with apprehension, because there's limited tolerance for so many offensive El Dorados and Cholo gang stereotypes (which, it was interesting to learn that in Japan there is a subculture inspired by Cholo car culture). No more a monolith than any widely diverse group of people are, but that's also why I was so excited, because getting a full game expansion (Unless another Stormblood curveball adds Meracydia my fear is not appeased) means more when there's so little like it, unlike the hundreds of "Fantasy RenFaire/Arthuriana European Medieval" or "Fantasy Three Kingdoms China" where another example is a drop in the ocean; something even if it stumbles is better than nothing, especially if it doesn't outright fully embrace the tropes and story beats that step callously on real-world trauma.

The Keynote yesterday and Kate's comments at the panel today mean that I personally will give a large amount of grace even for large missteps, but that's my personal stance. That "New World" was immediately ditched for what the actual inhabitants call it was a good sign.

I do hope, just as they got Desi VAs for Thavnair, that the EN VAs for the regions and groups in Tural have the same effort. And it really makes me lament how we don't have a Spanish language option for XIV to play with (though wow the translation problems between the various dialects of LatAm Spanish versus European Spanish would be a nightmare; the vocabulary shifts make the American English versus British versus Aussie look tame). That Oceania servers were added was actually what had me convinced of Meracydia as our destination.

I like the idea of a "Summer Vacation". Although this won't be. I love the idea of my WoL always just going off somewhere trying to relax and it gets interrupted by something stupid. I think the rift of the Scions and the Battle of the throne sounds like something silly to deal with, without being frustrated. It is super nice. I also like exploring new worlds and participating in the cultures there, so this is an expansion that already sounds more my speed. Unfortunately (side note) I am not a fan of Island Sanctuary as I feel its more of a crafting/gathering situation on steroids. So I like the idea of this new world and going to beach on vacation. I also like the teaser it looks very promising. I also have no real speculation on Jobs. Although if I had to guess I am going to say Spellblade/Mystic Night for our Melee DPS. I have no idea for the Caster unless the Mystic Knight becomes our Caster. I don't think it would be Cosair mainly because our Gunbreaker does weapon fighting similarly to what a Cosair does now. However, I could be wrong but that's just a guess.

Well that lore panel was somewhat disappointing. Though I guess I shouldn't have expected much since yesterday during the dev panel they again went over this is why and how things end up being written the way they are. So from that I should have been ready for an update on this is how we do translations and localization.

I'm not sure we knew Koji did voice samples for all of the dragon speak before. The other interesting answer was that there wasn't an Star Wars Outter Rim type situation pre-sundereding. So, take that how you will. I do wonder if there will be more than the three other questions they showed, but ran out of time to answer when they post those answers on the lodestone.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Are you joking about the "team's insistence" that NIN is hard to gear? Sounds unlikely.

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I mean, I think I'm joking, but I also don't have any proof the devs haven't just had it in for NIN all these years.