Log in, afk in front of the fc house and log out again

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Originally Posted by Koros

(60k gil charity being shocking to a friend) lmao

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I will admit I laughed when I read 60k. I spend like 5x* that on a single dye for a pair of shorts.

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I will admit I laughed when I read 60k. I spend like 5x* that on a single dye for a pair of shorts.

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Im sure you do. But then again, when a friend makes you those shorts and hand them to you..do you call that "charity" and laugh at it..or accept it in the spirit it was given? I go back to my earlier point..why spend gil when you can make it yourself?

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Im sure you do. But then again, when a friend makes you those shorts and hand them to you..do you call that "charity" and laugh at it..or accept it in the spirit it was given? I go back to my earlier point..why spend gil when you can make it yourself?

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I tried leveling a crafter. I fell asleep several times in the process. Also, my shorts are from PvP.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I tried leveling a crafter. I fell asleep several times in the process. Also, my shorts are from PvP.

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I gathered and crafted full sets of gear for every role in the game. I'm beyond burnt out on tombstone grinding at this point that I'm about to chuck the stupid Manderville Tombstone Weapon because I really don't care for yet another tombstone dump.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I gathered and crafted full sets of gear for every role in the game. I'm beyond burnt out on tombstone grinding at this point that I'm about to chuck the stupid Manderville Tombstone Weapon because I really don't care for yet another tombstone dump.

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Same. I’m not spending a single gil if I don’t have to. In fact I enjoyed crafting and gathering more than anything else in this game. Still do, probably because I no longer use macros and it keeps me engaged because of it.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I gathered and crafted full sets of gear for every role in the game. I'm beyond burnt out on tombstone grinding at this point that I'm about to chuck the stupid Manderville Tombstone Weapon because I really don't care for yet another tombstone dump.

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The trick is to just not do any of that. Do you actively play most of the jobs you would be getting Manderville tomestone weapons on? I haven't bothered to level much outside of things I actually play, nor have I purchased any tomestone weapons for jobs I don't actively play.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

4 star food. 4 star alkahests. 4 star tinctures. 4 star housing items .

I can craft it ALL, which means I am NOT wasting gil on stuff I can make for myself.

I just made 30 HQ dex tinctures for a friend, which would have cost her a MINT on the MB. She is progging savage, you should have seen her face when I handed her free food and tinctures. I can also make my own ingredients / components for these items.

i fail to see the benefit in spending gil on stuff you can make for yourself.

Crafters are self sufficient, which is a HUGE plus as you arent paying through the nose for overpriced MB items. Even on Kujata the gear prices for Diadochos are still within the 100k mark per item, so a full set will set you back close to one million gil for one job gearset ALONE.

Then theres the fact that crafting also provides you with materia and scrips, so you can pentameld your own crafter gear, buy food ingredients , thats another expense you no longer have. I pentamelded and it cost me, yes, but the vast majority was materia I already had in stock and ready to go.

Pentamelding is expensive, granted, but its a long term investment which has already proved its worth and paid for itself long since.

So: are the relics worth the time and effort? Hell yes.

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The downside, of course, is the obscene amount of time and money needed to GET a crafting job to the point where you can comfortably make end game consumables. Between the opportunity cost of tome and unspoiled node materials, materia, money spent on crafting food, its expensive. I wonder, does getting the relic tool require near pentamelded equipment to actually achieve? I bet it does, not that I've checked.

I have other ways to make gil that don't need crafting, so I just do a little of that now and then and I'm solid.

Thats a pity, Rolder, see, had you been on my server, Id have been very happy to help you with that, gear, food, tips, help with timed nodes..I did that for more than a few sprouts actually.

I still do.

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The downside, of course, is the obscene amount of time and money needed to GET a crafting job to the point

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Time? Not that much at all.

Money? Nope, not if you know what you are doing.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

The downside, of course, is the obscene amount of time and money needed to GET a crafting job to the point where you can comfortably make end game consumables. Between the opportunity cost of tome and unspoiled node materials, materia, money spent on crafting food, its expensive. I wonder, does getting the relic tool require near pentamelded equipment to actually achieve? I bet it does, not that I've checked.

I have other ways to make gil that don't need crafting, so I just do a little of that now and then and I'm solid.

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You can easily level all crafting jobs using leves to 50, then deliveries every week plus leves as they pop, then finally the crafting quest lines in later expac towns and beast tribes.

It is only expensive if you are in a rush. Heck, if you really don’t care you can actually make a lot of money leveling crafting.

As with most things in life, it’s a function of time and money. Faster will (almost) always be more expensive.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I will admit I laughed when I read 60k. I spend like 5x* that on a single dye for a pair of shorts.

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Don't ruin his moment, that 60k gil saved was unprecedented for him.

It's alright we're all applauding you saving 60k gil.

How about you just play another game?

Touch grass?

I dont know...

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Originally Posted by Pratini

How about you just play another game?

Touch grass?

I dont know...

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Are you going to get them a new house for when they decide to come back then ? Since auto demo is a thing

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Are you going to get them a new house for when they decide to come back then ? Since auto demo is a thing

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I couldn't care less about them.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

You can easily level all crafting jobs using leves to 50, then deliveries every week plus leves as they pop, then finally the crafting quest lines in later expac towns and beast tribes.

It is only expensive if you are in a rush. Heck, if you really don’t care you can actually make a lot of money leveling crafting.

As with most things in life, it’s a function of time and money. Faster will (almost) always be more expensive.

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I didn't mean leveling. I meant getting the gear needed to do high end crafts, not to mention melding that gear. I've wasted tons of money on failed melds, personally.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

I didn't mean leveling. I meant getting the gear needed to do high end crafts, not to mention melding that gear. I've wasted tons of money on failed melds, personally.

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Gotcha; that's kinda more of the same though. The gear creep eventually makes all the recipes trivial to make, so it just boils down to whether you NEED the crafted item here-and-now or if you can just wait a bit.

If you're leveling strictly to have the bleeding edge stuff for raids, etc then agreed- not worth your time/effort at all.

The man came in thinking he was packing heat but in reality he got the clown nose on

Not very cashmoney of them tbh.

As an aside, should I stop posting at 9999 or 10000 posts? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Theodric

As an aside, should I stop posting at 9999 or 10000 posts? :confused:

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50,000, no less

Go for 69420

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

I *want* to have stuff to dig my teeth into - a reason to log back in for inbetween raid nights. But there's just nothing to do. Frankly, i'm starting to consider going back to WoW..

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Then you should go back to WoW for a awhile or even dab in other games too for while. It is not a disrespect you or anybody who feels like that. I get you, you want the content, progressions and all of the good stuff, not the "get it done in two days" crap. Let me tell you a story about younger me when I was at beginning of HW. I was like "they need more content and progression plus other stuff as well." I was about to say "F" this game and I am going back to WoW or Guild Wars" but a wise Lalafell that was in my FC told me this and I took it to heart "It is fine to rush though stuff, it is your account and you can do whatever you want." "If you want to return to another game, because you don't feel satisfied with this then go ahead and do it. It is your time and money, your account will be still be here if you want to play again in the future (unless you delete it)." But would you feel satisfy with that and are you okay with it?

I was thinking about it and I was not satisfy with it because I did not see all of the parts of the game. Plus I was not okay with it, just leave something behind even know I have the opportunity to do more besides only looking at the Patch notes and new shiny things they had before they worn out would had pissed me off. Then I start looking at things like "Can I level all of my jobs", "What about Weapon relics, do I have all of them and should I try it out?" Then things started to change, I starting to do other stuff and do not try to get things done so fast.

I can understand OP mindset in this and if they want to return to WoW or anything other game, then we should respect their wishes and tell them "Thank you for hanging out with us and making this game little better" but hit them with "But would feel satisfy with that and Are you okay with it?" For me, I been in this place for almost nine years now and believe me, most of us in here would thought that they would have pull "EOS" on this game by now but I am happy that I can comment on stuff like this right now.

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Originally Posted by Pratini

Well thats the magic of owning +30 shell FCs to farm subs and have billions upon billions of gil.

I can buy everything in game with close to no effort.

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This is easily the most useless flex of all time

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Looks like you need help, and I aint going to be the one to help.



Imagine thinking having 30 shell FC's is a flex lmao

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Well...

It is what it is.

As I said, I can buy anything in the game with 30 shell FCs. Why would I need more if im not a gold seller?

Are you a gold seller?

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Originally Posted by Pratini

Well...

It is what it is.

As I said, I can buy anything in the game with 30 shell FCs. Why would I need more if im not a gold seller?

Are you a gold seller?

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Arent you the one bragging about being a "multi billionaire"

you look more like a gil seller than me lol

LOL at the effective "I have more houses than you" back-and-fourth flexing.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I will not, and by the way if you want to flex about 30 shell fcs, look at who you are talking to, I am way above your league ; )

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Rare Stormpeaks L being baited into this d-measuring content with a troll

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Originally Posted by Koros

Rare Stormpeaks L being baited into this d-measuring content with a troll

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I just find it funny when they are going for the massive flex of "I have so much of this and this and this", it's pretty pathetic, but just thought I'd put them in their place, it aint really a flex, but you are right that they are actually the worst troll on this forum, I shouldnt have played into it in the first place, I am done now

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Originally Posted by Koros

Rare Stormpeaks L being baited into this d-measuring content with a troll

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Apt for the OP of the thread, so bored we’re resorting to this madness

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Gotcha; that's kinda more of the same though. The gear creep eventually makes all the recipes trivial to make, so it just boils down to whether you NEED the crafted item here-and-now or if you can just wait a bit.

If you're leveling strictly to have the bleeding edge stuff for raids, etc then agreed- not worth your time/effort at all.

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But when the stuff becomes trivial to make, it also becomes trivial to just buy off the marketboard. Which was my original point, there's no reason to bother with crafting other then the convenience of self repair and self meld.

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Originally Posted by Elissar

Almost 4 years later after beating Heavensward i discovered a sub quest where you unlock a special emote. Great quest, amazing writing and dialogues, and i didn't noticed because it was a yellow quest and i could not wait to try Samurai.

Why they don't make such content more clear or obvious? Because they want you to look for it.

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What level of copium dimension is this lmao

Nope, if I'm logged in I'm doing something, if not I'm probably working/socializing/playing other games. Weird compulsion if you log in just to "log in" though.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Sure and then what once you're done with the tools ? Oh nothing ? Thought so

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How far does that train logic go?

Once you're done leveling everything, then what?
Once you're done with the main story, then what?
Once you're doing with the optional content, then what?

Then GO DO OTHER THINGS IN LIFE! THAT is the what.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

This coming from someone who makes more posts in a week than I do in a YEAR, with so many alts Im surprised you even know who you are anymore.

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Gonna need to get your registered nurse friend in here for that epic burn.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Oh you silly little Titanmen..the average gamer is in their mid 30's, with a growing percentage well into their 50's above.



Oh and btw..a friend of mine just qualified as a registered nurse, who plans on doing further training in ICU.

She will be 68 next year. ;);)

You really are behind the times.

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Mao just turned 62 little bits over week ago. Mao thinkings is lots old people playing FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

How far does that train logic go?

Once you're done leveling everything, then what?
Once you're done with the main story, then what?
Once you're doing with the optional content, then what?

Then GO DO OTHER THINGS IN LIFE! THAT is the what.



Gonna need to get your registered nurse friend in here for that epic burn.

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Yikes what is this boomer humor

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Mao just turned 62 little bits over week ago. Mao thinkings is lots old people playing FFXIV.

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And I for one am glad to have people like you Mao! Of my group, 2 are in their 60s, 1 in 50s and me (the baby) in 40s. All ages, all spectrums.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

How many of you can relate to the title?

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I am a big fan of just jumping around the area outside of the FC house and seeing what places I can get to instead of standing there AFK.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

I am a big fan of just jumping around the area outside of the FC house and seeing what places I can get to instead of standing there AFK.

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Creating your own jump puzzle. I can dig it.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

And I for one am glad to have people like you Mao! Of my group, 2 are in their 60s, 1 in 50s and me (the baby) in 40s. All ages, all spectrums.

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I am starting to see why the forums are mocked by the entire playerbase.

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Originally Posted by NailBach

What i don't get ist this. Why do you still pay a sub then? Unsub and resub when you think therre's enough content again.

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Probably doesn't want to lose their house. If you're gone 45 days, the home gets demolished. This is called "auto demolition," and it's in the game to create space in limited wards for new people to purchase homes instead.
It'll be a better day for everyone when island sanctuary implements full blown instanced housing, allowing for the complete non-issue of demolition timers. Then people who are burnt out on the game can actually unsub and leave without feeling like they're losing things they worked hard to create, and all the people still somehow enjoying the game won't have to listen to their rants. It's a win/win! Of course, if this happened then Square would probably lose thousands of subscriptions overnight, and we can't have that. I mean, how will the Forespoken sequel be financed if bored players aren't reluctantly clinging to artificially scarce housing in a game that offers a slower content cycle than f2p games with skeleton crews? Gotta keep them hooked with something.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

A burn out would imply i'm tired of the things i'm doing but there's nothing to do in the first place. I WANT to do stuff but there's nothing of substance.

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An entire 10 years woth of content in FF14 and you find “ nothing of substance”?

Time for you to move on me thinks.

I’ve been playing since 2.0 and I’m still engaged and doing stuff. I also take breaks of a month or 3 and find it helps.

Either you are trolling to get a rise from people (nothing of substance my butt) or FF14 is not the MMO that has the right gameplay for you.