SE don’t forget certain complaints when updating the character graphics

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Just waiting for the whole "We read all the feedback players wanted for the graphical update and added the most requested item on the list. The game now has improved jiggle physics"

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It be nice if physics didn't break in half above 60fps.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Just waiting for the whole "We read all the feedback players wanted for the graphical update and added the most requested item on the list. The game now has improved jiggle physics"

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Better be butt jiggle physics. I want to be able to give my teammates a healthy "Good game!" upon completion.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

People still thinking this graphic update is going to be anything other than post processing effects?

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Not exactly odd for people to be thinking that, considering Yoshi-P has already shown examples of the graphics update in a live letter.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...803-03-2022%29

Updating player models is a very tricky proposition. You have to massively improve the fidelity of the model while still keeping the overall aesthetic as close as possible to the original. An asset could be duplicated almost perfectly in HD but not have the same "feel" as the original, so there's a lot of artistry involved. On top of that, "fixing" perceived problems with the model is even trickier because for every person who doesn't like X detail, such as the wide Elezen shoulders, there's another person who loves it just the way it is.

From what they've shown so far they seem to be on the right track, and it's not as much of a quantum leap as the WoW model upgrade from a few years ago, so I'm pretty confident they'll turn out great. I wouldn't hold your breath for any drastic changes to overall body proportions though.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

People still thinking this graphic update is going to be anything other than post processing effects?

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https://i.redd.it/muivv5sh5ri81.png

Damn that's one hell of a shader.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

Updating player models is a very tricky proposition. You have to massively improve the fidelity of the model while still keeping the overall aesthetic as close as possible to the original. An asset could be duplicated almost perfectly in HD but not have the same "feel" as the original, so there's a lot of artistry involved. On top of that, "fixing" perceived problems with the model is even trickier because for every person who doesn't like X detail, such as the wide Elezen shoulders, there's another person who loves it just the way it is.

From what they've shown so far they seem to be on the right track, and it's not as much of a quantum leap as the WoW model upgrade from a few years ago, so I'm pretty confident they'll turn out great. I wouldn't hold your breath for any drastic changes to overall body proportions though.



https://i.redd.it/muivv5sh5ri81.png

Damn that's one hell of a shader.

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Let's see how well that ends up being, pictures are all good, they always look absolutely amazing, however the end result is very often different and underwhelming

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Let's see how well that ends up being, pictures are all good, they always look absolutely amazing, however the end result is very often different and underwhelming

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I'm sure no matter the result you'll find something to whine about.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Better be butt jiggle physics. I want to be able to give my teammates a healthy "Good game!" upon completion.

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Jiggle physics on everything. Including the things a lot of people don't want to jiggle...

However butt jiggle physics better also come with a green catsuit and butt jiggle gang emotes... >.>

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

I'm sure no matter the result you'll find something to whine about.

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And no matter the result you'll be happy about it

Right back at you

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

And no matter the result you'll be happy about it

Right back at you

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https://meme.institute/store/you-tri...rs/preview.png

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Originally Posted by ASkellington

Sure I'll say it as weird as it sounds:

Can we ACTUALLY have bare feet instead of the forced sandals we get when we hide them.

And on top of that, can the textures of said feet actually, y'know, look good?

If I want to walk around barefoot, let me. LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME ON THE MARKET.

And gods forbid I use sandals or any open toe shoe/foot piece.

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You will get clay blocks with 3 polygons total in your sandals and you will like it.

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Originally Posted by ASkellington

Sure I'll say it as weird as it sounds:

Can we ACTUALLY have bare feet instead of the forced sandals we get when we hide them.

And on top of that, can the textures of said feet actually, y'know, look good?

If I want to walk around barefoot, let me. LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME ON THE MARKET.

And gods forbid I use sandals or any open toe shoe/foot piece.

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They actually explained to us one time why we have those sandals. It had something to do with how the game recognizes us standing on the ground. I don't remember all the details or tech babble but what it boils down to is we're all Barbie essentially. In that we might as well be perpetually on our tiptoes when not wearing any footwear.

I don't know modders do a pretty good job of having avatars with bare feet... don't really get the not being able to do it claim.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

I don't know modders do a pretty good job of having avatars with bare feet... don't really get the not being able to do it claim.

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It's because we're technically floating off the ground and they gave us the sandals so it wouldn't look weird when you're not on a flat surface. I also want to say it so the grounds' collision detection works properly. It's been a few years since they explained it while trying to not use a whole bunch of technical terms.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

It's because we're technically floating off the ground and they gave us the sandals so it wouldn't look weird when you're not on a flat surface. I also want to say it so the grounds' collision detection works properly. It's been a few years since they explained it while trying to not use a whole bunch of technical terms.

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I don't see any floating in modded images/videos I've seen. The feet look perfectly normal and certainly there is nothing that stands out and says this is weird why did they do that. I'm sure they have their reasons but why not a emperors glam that actually fixes the look seems to me it should be something they can do but it probably just not on their radar. Many of the mods actually improve the look of the feet and toes which aren't really well defined as they stand atm.

Maybe we'll get some improvements to our character models but I'm not expecting anything major.

Too bad the devs (or even moderators) don't read these forums.

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

Yes, they should definitely listen to player feedback, shouldn't they?

https://files.catbox.moe/s2e10a.jpg

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Why do i feel like the bun man is going to ask annie is she okay? hehe...

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Originally Posted by SannaR

It's because we're technically floating off the ground and they gave us the sandals so it wouldn't look weird when you're not on a flat surface. I also want to say it so the grounds' collision detection works properly. It's been a few years since they explained it while trying to not use a whole bunch of technical terms.

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Yeah it'd be a shame if our feet ever looked slightly weird. Can't have that.

https://i.imgur.com/NZXVYdj.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/ipYxaO5.png

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Yeah it'd be a shame if our feet ever looked slightly weird. Can't have that.

https://i.imgur.com/NZXVYdj.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/ipYxaO5.png

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Just seeing that 2nd picture hurts my foot

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Just seeing that 2nd picture hurts my foot

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Seen guys doing drag races in footwear like that... >.>

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Seen guys doing drag races in footwear like that... >.>

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Maybe if the footwear was designed to look like that intentionally. The 2B boots however are supposed to bend with your foot and last time I checked no human foot bends like that.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Yeah it'd be a shame if our feet ever looked slightly weird. Can't have that.

https://i.imgur.com/NZXVYdj.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/ipYxaO5.png

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Is why Mao switched to Type 51 boots and legs. Is FAR less distortions.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

Maybe if the footwear was designed to look like that intentionally. The 2B boots however are supposed to bend with your foot and last time I checked no human foot bends like that.

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You haven't looked at enough human feet then.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

You haven't looked at enough human feet then.

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I'll never understand the foot fetish people have...but I know of the existence of a lot of weird fetishes and foot fetish is the most...normal? Innocent?

No. Tame. That's the word I'm looking for.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I'll never understand the foot fetish people have...but I know of the existence of a lot of weird fetishes and foot fetish is the most...normal? Innocent?

No. Tame. That's the word I'm looking for.

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Knowing what human feet looks like means you're a foot fetishist now ?

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Knowing what human feet looks like means you're a foot fetishist now ?

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Apparently yes, remember that this is clown fiesta land.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

You haven't looked at enough human feet then.

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You sure haven't either if you think this


https://i.imgur.com/ipYxaO5.png

is how a human foot bends

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Knowing what human feet looks like means you're a foot fetishist now ?

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It's always the foot fetishists themselves that bring it up. Can't have a normal conversation about it apparently even though footwear is probably one of the fashion pieces with the most diversity out there. The hands and feet in this game are downright awful and they should get the same level of detail as the face given that IRL, many people invest heavily in mani/pedis and a ton of the world wears gloves, rings and especially shoes as statement pieces.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I'll never understand the foot fetish people have...but I know of the existence of a lot of weird fetishes and foot fetish is the most...normal? Innocent?

No. Tame. That's the word I'm looking for.

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Has nothing to do with fetishes and just simple observation.

Then again I suppose no one on this forum has ever watched professional ballet performances.

Additionally they also apparently are completely ignorant of the fact a boot like that isn't going to be shaped exactly like the foot inside it.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Has nothing to do with fetishes and just simple observation.

Then again I suppose no one on this forum has ever watched professional ballet performances.

Additionally they also apparently are completely ignorant of the fact a boot like that isn't going to be shaped exactly like the foot inside it.

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Oh yeah I think I remember seeing like a professional Ballet dancers foot after so many years of it and it's all....well it looks painful.

And then there is the practice of foot binding? Like the bones don't grow right and it's all mashed together.