Yoshi-P is still right about taking breaks to play other games

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Take your month break without worry (unless you can't trust your other FC members, in which case why do you allow them to stay in your FC).

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I mean that's the thing right - Why even bother trying to micro-manage my actual sub to get every penny out of it before I lose absolutely everything? I may as well just keep it going but lower the Retainers and Account Type. So I'm basically putting my main account in a maintenance mode.

It's not the best option, but it's the most stress-free. I already lapsed 3 other accounts this month. So that's my "Taking a break".

Is what it is, it's what I consider a break at least.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

You can unsub for up to 45 days if you want. You're just limited on how long you can do it if you want to keep a house that you're not using while you're unsubbed instead of letting it go to another player that would be using it.

As you've pointed out in many threads in the housing subforum, it's easy to get a house right now so there's no need to worry if you do unsub longer and lose your house. Just put your furnishings into your inventory or your retainer inventory before you unsub then buy a new house when you return.


You're not going to lose any of those things just because you didn't log in for a month. That's only 30-31 days.

FC master isn't lost unless you haven't logged in for 35 days and can always be returned to you when you do log back in. The FC itself only auto-disbands if there are no other members that have been a part of the FC for at least 30 days. Houses do not auto-demolish unless the owner (or a FC member in the case of FC houses) do not enter the house for 45 days.

Take your month break without worry (unless you can't trust your other FC members, in which case why do you allow them to stay in your FC).

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One (1) Kupo Nut has been transferred to your account as thanks for your service in defending this great game.

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Originally Posted by Johners

Finally, happy patch 6.35 everybody! If you're enjoying the game still, I'm happy for you. If you're not the game, I hope you find a game that does make you happy!

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Fully agree. Given that we live in a capitalist society and this game is a luxury, it behooves the player to shop around and view competitor's products, especially when our own is lacking. Only in a competitive free market can we have innovation.

Speaking of competitors, World of Warcraft: Dragonflight is having a free trial for the current expansion this weekend. You can play for free until March 12 in the new zones, and if you want to buy, the full expansion is 20% off! Give it a shot. WoW is better now. There's stuff to do, raiding is no longer sucky, and most importantly--unlike FFXIV--it has actual stuff to do at endgame. Give it a chance--you might find your new favorite game.

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com...l-this-weekend

Again the argument falls back to, if you own a house - you have to continue to pay a monthly sub to maintain it even though you are not currently playing the game. So even if you decide to take a 4-month break for a patch - you must be paying money so you can prevent auto demo.

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Originally Posted by Y2K21

Again the argument falls back to, if you own a house - you have to continue to pay a monthly sub to maintain it even though you are not currently playing the game. So even if you decide to take a 4-month break for a patch - you must be paying money so you can prevent auto demo.

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This is one reason I intentionally let my personal medium get demoed a few years back. Though the main one was that I simply never used it for anything. Being able to simply not log in for awhile was just a bonus. Now I have an apartment that I never use for anything instead.

My sub is always on though, that way I can just log in whenever I feel like it. No hassle.

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Originally Posted by Adeacia

This is one reason I intentionally let my personal medium get demoed a few years back. Though the main one was that I simply never used it for anything. Being able to simply not log in for awhile was just a bonus. Now I have an apartment that I never use for anything instead.

My sub is always on though, that way I can just log in whenever I feel like it. No hassle.

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Taking an extended break without unsubscribing does defeat the purpose of taking a break though. The loss of subscription revenue is an important tool in signalling displeasure with some or all aspects of the game.

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Originally Posted by Johners

Taking an extended break without unsubscribing does defeat the purpose of taking a break though. The loss of subscription revenue is an important tool in signalling displeasure with some or all aspects of the game.

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If you own a house and really don't want to lose it, it's more of a Catch-22 than anything else if you want to actually take a break and unsub. I would love to at points if it weren't for that. Yeah, that's a personal choice, but SE knows exactly what they are doing here. Part of me wonders if that is at least one reason why they insist on keeping housing an extremely limited resource. But yeah, when I want to take a "break", I turn off my retainers and other extra commodities, and pay the base sub price per month.

And it's still not an excuse for longer patch cycles that deliver lackluster content.

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Originally Posted by Y2K21

Again the argument falls back to, if you own a house - you have to continue to pay a monthly sub to maintain it even though you are not currently playing the game. So even if you decide to take a 4-month break for a patch - you must be paying money so you can prevent auto demo.

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Crazy thought here but you know you can actually still keep the sub but not really play it (only hopping in to do a couple of things and then your done).

How many of us have running subscriptions to services but never fully use them 24/7?

In regards to the subscription arguments/complaints for taking a break from the game. It calls into question what percentage of the playerbase actually concerns themselves with the subscription cost for one reason or another. Hell the only time I remember I pay a subscription for this game is when I see it on my bank statement and when I get the email about it charging for the billing cycle. I'd imagine there's a considerable amount of players that are the same as me in that regard either because they don't keep track of their finances or in my case have enough disposable income that I don't have to care.

I mean meh. Subscriptions can add up if you have alot of them. But I just leave them going on auto renew to avoid potential annoyance of having to restart it when I do want to use the service because it will be that moment that something like the billing system will break...

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

In regards to the subscription arguments/complaints for taking a break from the game. It calls into question what percentage of the playerbase actually concerns themselves with the subscription cost for one reason or another. Hell the only time I remember I pay a subscription for this game is when I see it on my bank statement and when I get the email about it charging for the billing cycle. I'd imagine there's a considerable amount of players that are the same as me in that regard either because they don't keep track of their finances or in my case have enough disposable income that I don't have to care.

I mean meh. Subscriptions can add up if you have alot of them. But I just leave them going on auto renew to avoid potential annoyance of having to restart it when I do want to use the service because it will be that moment that something like the billing system will break...

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I personally never let a subscription stay on auto-renewal, so I manually resub every month. The reason being is that I prefer to keep track of the things I'm paying for monthly, since it's easy to forget about a recurring subscription that goes on forever.

In contrast, I have a pair of friends who are subscribed to a multitude of services they don't even use anymore; from video rental, to streaming and magazines. They are always complaining about being short on money, but that's their decision.

Your mileage may vary. Even if I have the means to keep a perpetual sub, I still wouldn't do it.

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Originally Posted by Raskbuck

I personally never let a subscription stay on auto-renewal, so I manually resub every month. The reason being is that I prefer to keep track of the things I'm paying for monthly, since it's easy to forget about a recurring subscription that goes on forever.

In contrast, I have a pair of friends who are subscribed to a multitude of services they don't even use anymore; from video rental, to streaming and magazines. They are always complaining about being short on money, but that's their decision.

Your mileage may vary. Even if I have the means to keep a perpetual sub, I still wouldn't do it.

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TBH my mindset on auto renew on subscriptions stems from having sufficient income to not worry about it. I'm still fully aware of them being there because they're linked to a specific account and I review the activity of all my financial accounts regularly to make sure I don't have items appear that shouldn't be there. I just don't cancel the subscriptions until I'm sure I won't want to use the service again.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

TBH my mindset on auto renew on subscriptions stems from having sufficient income to not worry about it. I'm still fully aware of them being there because they're linked to a specific account and I review the activity of all my financial accounts regularly to make sure I don't have items appear that shouldn't be there. I just don't cancel the subscriptions until I'm sure I won't want to use the service again.

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This is mine as well. In addition to my regular career, I have a side job where, frankly, just a couple weeks of it - maybe even just one if it's a good week - covers my sub for an entire year. It's just not an issue keeping a sub regardless of how often I actually play at any given time.

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Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro

So the current demolition on housing is 45 days. Lets say if you did not login for 45 days, all of the progress on your character was deleted. Are you ok with this? If not, then you should also dislike the concept of limited housing with demolition. :)

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Comparison makes no sense because characters aren't in limited supply Housing is. Can't equate them because they don't face the same issue.

Kudos to the people who take responsibility for their own actions and don't blame someone else for why you do something. A house in xiv is only as important as you make it. And if you're spending more than 45 days away from the game the house may not be that important after all compared to what you're spending your time with. Get an apartment n call it a day. Did it myself some years back

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Comparison makes no sense because characters aren't in limited supply Housing is. Can't equate them because they don't face the same issue.

Kudos to the people who take responsibility for their own actions and don't blame someone else for why you do something. A house in xiv is only as important as you make it. And if you're spending more than 45 days away from the game the house may not be that important after all compared to what you're spending your time with. Get an apartment n call it a day. Did it myself some years back

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I agree to an extent, unfortunately you need a house to do certain things just like you need fc house to do certain things.

Majority of which should let you use the new player location instead but unfortunately it doesn't.

I take breaks (or technically my play time is just extremely low) from time to time, but I prefer to stay subscribed for convenience. I know I'm coming back and want to be able to immediately pick up the game and play, whether it's only for half an hour in total that month or several hours a week. It annoys me to have the urge to play and get hit with a long update or payment issues like an expired card.

Let me add two more reasons as to why I can't just let my house get demolished even if I wanted to unsubscribe for 6 months, housing item storage, my apartment and fc room are already full with housing items.

"Why not use your retainer?"
Because those are already full with glamour items that I can't put in the dresser, even if I only keep items that are actually a pain to get it is still more than the glamour dresser will ever have space for. Or the 20000 different currencies that the game showers you in, be that relic quest items, totems, savage books, etc.
Now I could get another 2 retainers but that kind of defeats the purpose of not giving SE more money.

"Why do you even have that many housing items?"
Because every time an event rolls around with a housing item that might be useful in future designs I have to buy them in bulk, because I sure as hell am not going to pay 5 bucks per item for them on the mog station, the fact that a single snowman lamp costs as much as a full event glamour is baffling to begin with.

And then you have some housing items that are simply too expensive to buy them all over again every time you end up needing them.
When I work on a house design that needs 30 glade canopy beds for a fake ceiling I'm not going to trash those 30 beds as soon as I change the design to something else.

Lastly there's the probably biggest reason, if you lose a medium or large plot your chance of ever getting that back is basically 0. So yes, even if I might not want to use my house for 45 days it doesn't mean I want to never use that house ever again.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

Let me add two more reasons as to why I can't just let my house get demolished even if I wanted to unsubscribe for 6 months, housing item storage, my apartment and fc room are already full with housing items.

"Why not use your retainer?"
Because those are already full with glamour items that I can't put in the dresser, even if I only keep items that are actually a pain to get it is still more than the glamour dresser will ever have space for. Or the 20000 different currencies that the game showers you in, be that relic quest items, totems, savage books, etc.
Now I could get another 2 retainers but that kind of defeats the purpose of not giving SE more money.

"Why do you even have that many housing items?"
Because every time an event rolls around with a housing item that might be useful in future designs I have to buy them in bulk, because I sure as hell am not going to pay 5 bucks per item for them on the mog station, the fact that a single snowman lamp costs as much as a full event glamour is baffling to begin with.

And then you have some housing items that are simply too expensive to buy them all over again every time you end up needing them.
When I work on a house design that needs 30 glade canopy beds for a fake ceiling I'm not going to trash those 30 beds as soon as I change the design to something else.

Lastly there's the probably biggest reason, if you lose a medium or large plot your chance of ever getting that back is basically 0. So yes, even if I might not want to use my house for 45 days it doesn't mean I want to never use that house ever again.

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It was sad seeing the devs give up just offering older event stuff in event merchants and just say "screw it, slap it on the mogstation".

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Originally Posted by Johners

Taking an extended break without unsubscribing does defeat the purpose of taking a break though. The loss of subscription revenue is an important tool in signalling displeasure with some or all aspects of the game.

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I'm not unsatisfied with the game though. I'm just too busy with other things to play it as much. I do log on when I'm able, or when there is an event or new content.