[SUGGESTION] Character creation needs an overhaul/rework/more options

I agree.

And more options for the tatoos and makeups. And also, the option to use 2 makeups at the same time, allowing us to combine them and have different colours to each as well, if we like.

To be honest, I stopped caring about this years ago. But given how good-looking the face of new npcs are, the old aspect of character customization does stands out.

IMO, I don't see the need for sliders. These are most of the time useless anyway. I would enjoy more faces (especially for the non-hyur races), eye shapes, mouths, etc. I feel like having more faces would improve things so much. Some races like elezen you can consider that you pretty much have two faces, and two versions of the same face with lousy make up.

Better eyelashes and eyebrows for the races that are not Viera. IMO the eyebrows/eyelashes of Viera are SO good.

Beards, moustaches, freckles, face paints that are more elaborated or being able to choose more than one face paint.

Less blocky hands... And of course, hats for vieras/hoths.

If this is not possible, if we could AT LEAST choose hair per glamour plate that would make wonders.

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Originally Posted by Melorie

To be honest, I stopped caring about this years ago. But given how good-looking the face of new npcs are, the old aspect of character customization does stands out.

IMO, I don't see the need for sliders. These are most of the time useless anyway. I would enjoy more faces (especially for the non-hyur races), eye shapes, mouths, etc. I feel like having more faces would improve things so much. Some races like elezen you can consider that you pretty much have two faces, and two versions of the same face with lousy make up.

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I agree with more options over sliders
- like new noses, eye shapes, etc- it would be better overall & add the possibility more unique features
(and adding beards, viera eyelashes to other races, etc)

Speaking of eyelashes, I hope the 7.0 revamp adds the option to change the color of your eyelashes.

It annoys me that this is the only scar option for the only female Hyur face I life. understandable if you can't see it, it's the tiiiiiny little eyebrow scar on her left eyebrow. I would love more scars, both for realism and because they look cool.

https://imgur.com/a/8Gm8JVU

This isn't a customization issue, and of COURSE I want more customization. But you know what else I want?

Visible male nipples.

Not the unpigmented phantom nubs they have now lol. Like, literally any hint of coloration at all. I don't feel like I'm asking for the moon here. It barely works on 2D characters imo, but it looks especially uncanny on 3D characters. It just drives me nuts, it looks so weird as is.

In terms of customization, though, I think what I'd like more than anything else is more face options in line with the quality of the Viera's -- who look like they're from a completely different game in comparison to the older races, because their faces have the sort of depth and detail that we only see in NPCs with custom face models nowadays. There's always been some stylistic discrepancy if you compare, say, Miqo'te to the other earlier races as well, and later Au Ra, but the gap feels even wider now, and it definitely bugs me a little, from an art direction perspective.

pease give mex2

Bumping for justice

I heard YoshiP dare to breathe a word about potential customization options past 7.0, but of course nothing nearly concrete yet. If it happens, it's not going to be until after the graphical update (which I suppose is rather obvious, but still)

I agree, though. In some ways, XIV has pretty nice customization as is. In other ways, it's extremely and absurdly limited.

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Originally Posted by EliaStormblade

I heard YoshiP dare to breathe a word about potential customization options past 7.0, but of course nothing nearly concrete yet. If it happens, it's not going to be until after the graphical update (which I suppose is rather obvious, but still)

I agree, though. In some ways, XIV has pretty nice customization as is. In other ways, it's extremely and absurdly limited.

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Yoshi said that one of the reason was because how limited data flows between server and client made it difficult to add more customization (unless i am remembering wrong it was asked in one of the q&a at fanfest way back) but they have been upgrading the server, only the north america left and that is happening soon, so there's a possibility that it could happen in the future but i'm not that hopeful that it will

I think we have more than enough skin tones. More body types would be nice. But I think what we REALLY need are better beard options. Come onnn, SE! Give us the beards!

Heres hoping they'll look into improving currrent races once femhroth drops, guessing in 7.0, so maybe by 8.0 and beyond for any character improvements if they do...

I would like:

- more fur textures and colours for Hrothgar
- some different textured ears for Viera
- an option for dog ears on Miquo'te
- a tall female Au'Ra with maybe some red scales (like the one in the concept art)
- perhaps a dog head for Hrothgar too
- an option for the Hrothgar to not have a hunch
- an Elezen with "fixed" proportions and longer ears
- better-looking beards
- good-looking eyebrows for all races
- eyebrows for Highlander
- a more muscled female Roegadin body option
- give some better shape to Roegadin male (other than refrigerators)
- fix the male Au'ra run animation
- decouple horns from faces for Au'ra
- add a tail option for Viera
- fix the Hrothgar battle animations that make our spine break
- add a slimmer option for Hrothgar

I think that sums up what I would like to see as options, besides the spine-breaking animations (that one should be a must)

Made an account just to add to/bump this thread.
I would really, really love to simply have more options, and to see outdated customization options replaced with better ones.

Most of my suggestions have been said already, but I'd still make them again just for the sake of it.

1.) More face presets for every race. Since male midlanders get....7 now? I think it would be fair for everyone else to have that many, at least. I feel like people get very attached to their faces in this game, and it would be nice if we could all feel just a bit more distinct.

2.) Obligatory: More default hairs, and more unlockable hairs, specifically long ones! I would personally like to have some long braids or twintails, but just a variety of longer hairs in general would be super nice.

3.) I'm not sure how much sense this suggestion will make, but I think it would be nice if the color options are overhauled and updated. I'm very picky about how colors look in this game, and with the addition of viera it has become extremely obvious that the skintone options of the 2.0 races are noticeably wonky. The viera have a much nicer selection than anyone else, a wider variety of undertones to their skin, and overall they just look a lot more realistic to human skin. 2.0 races are plagued by a lack of undertone consideration, causing many tones to look kind of unreal or fake. Alongside that, the hair colors are also just extremely limited. I do think a sophisticated color wheel could solve some of these problems, but I'll settle even for an updated palette.

4.) More customization for scars/freckles/moles/makeup/eyebrows/eyelashes would be super nice!!! And I'd really like to see the "lipstick" overhauled completely...sometimes you can make it work, but most of the time it just doesnt look like lipstick at all.

5.) More tail/ear/etc options for everyone!!! Spots, fluff, whatever!!!

6.) I think they'd have a difficult time with adding more sliders, but I'd be very happy if they added a "body type" selection some day, even if the options don't have a huge range, it would be nice to have any variation at all.

7.) The default "room" for the character creator menu is notoriously bad. I know you can switch to the "gridania" area to have a better look at the colors you're picking, but since the default is still that dark aetheric sea, I really think it ought to be updated. There is no good reason for you to customize your character in a poorly lit void that warps the colors of everything you're looking at. I hope it will be updated and fixed alongside the rest of the lighting in the game.

Usually it is kept more simple in MMOs due to the resource and impact on others on having to load/register a gazillion extra things may cause lag and performance drops as well as putting stress onto the servers, especially in severe populated areas.

So it is something to think about as well, first of all update what we got... then look into what else can be done.

character models with higher polygon count and updated textures especially on the hyur would be phenomenal even
and ppppppppuhhhlease different body types
i'm not asking for obese characters but they are ALL hella lithe, let us have some hips and thighs, it's not fair that the male au'ra hog them all the thigh meat.

but yes the textures on our faces
some of them are absolutely horrendous
PLEASE
the highlanders SUFFER immensely
and the youthful male elezan face is hideous, what are those eyebrows?????
the faces with really weird dark blotchiness across their cheeks needs to go, add it to skin details - things like eyebags, heavy tired eyes, better blush, scars and wounds or other blemishes, better freckles, all separate from makeups and face pains - and layering face paints and/or makeups please

and. options in the faces that are more varied? i LOOOOVE droopy eyes but there's not a lot of options for that, esp in miqo'te, i sad. give me soft, droopy eyes. and different JAWS. all our jawlines are like.........v's for females. u know, just a complete overhaul where we can sculpt our own faces to a certain degree would be amazing and allow us more variety :t things i want from my character: droopy eyes, somewhat square jaw or round chin instead of pointy, noses that are kinda arched or hooknose for everyone, wider noses for certain races ahem

just
idk man
our char creation is super outdated
even wow has updated their models and textures
they still look kinda super ass and creepy eyes but
please i am begging
let us be prettier (or intentionally uglier or more rugged) and up to the quality of newer npcs with unique heads
and for the love of jeebus let us adjust the shoulder and hip width
elezen shoulders are hideous and heads way too small and necks too long
roe ladies would be lovelier IMO with an option of wider hips
seriously wider hips and i'll hop on board
they can have boobs but no hips i can't stand it here

and of course
EVERYONE
literally eVERYONE
deserves a booty buff
like a permanent perpetual booty buff not a piece of glam
seriously on our gear there's so much room for a booty to be there and it wouldn't ruin LITERALLY ANYTHING because have u seen the gap between the bottom of chest piece armor and the giant gap between it and our practically concave booties?? MERCY

look
even just being able to legally scale the bones of our models wouldn't ruin the meshes of our armors too much
i have seen. pictures. ok. it works as long as you don't go overboard, mostly bc of our low poly parts looking funky

literally i do not care if every 7.0 resource is dedicated to giving us better polygons across bodies AND armors (for da love of mog give the bust of the summer indigo shirt a few more too) IT'S COOL IT'S FINE I CAN WAIT FOR CONTENT JUST JUST MAKE US LOOK BETTER

i wuv my buns but i do not want dorito jaw+chin please let me become more square lol

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also we deserve better hands and feet

*also*, if y'all reworked the char creator and allowed us more control of the shape of our characters' faces and bodies and just gave us overall better optipns and variety then it might significantly reduce the desirability of mods for a number of people who just want simple things and improvements. it'd be less tempting for those of us who do want to abide by tos ..

it'd also be really cool if we could change hairstyles a little bit in specific parts like in picrews to choose different bangs/ fringes or hair pieces that frame the face. i dont like a lot of hairs specifically for the fringe or lack of framing hair like the alma hairstyle on miqote and viera just looks so awful and would be tons cuter if we could have loose face-framing hair. or even the contest hair with the side ponytail if i could change a different fringe i'd love wearing that. and the new island sanctuary ponytail makes me irrationally angry bc the face framing hair pieces are so floaty and off the face and imo only looks pretty good on lalafell but on miqo and viera once again looks icky icky ick

I can’t believe it took this long for someone to mention Elezen necks, but we need a slider for that to make them shorter or if you would like even longer.

One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is maybe an option for different movements & poses. The Elezen suffer from some of the worst movements in game. Please give us an option for different animations. It should based on character attitudes. Not all Elezen should be some posh, fancy boy or girl. My character is supposed to be a scrappy, tough guy, but our awkward movements just make me cringe. I have to run around with my weapon drawn, so I can change how I run & walk. Please add an animation option. I know other races also dislike certain animations from their characters, so I know I’m not alone in this.

Another thing I’m surprised no one mentioned is maybe add a 3rd clan per race. We know some exist like that Roegadyn Samurai we met in Stormblood (I forgot his name) who was with Yugiri. That type of Roegadyn is currently uncreatable. That suggests it’s a different clan. How about adding it to the game along with all other races. It would add some new flavor to the game seeing completely new versions of races we’ve grown to love.

boop because i am Desperate

To be honest I think a. Humans should get to be like the girl in heavenward half elf, elfs should get an add on to appear with horns like conjuring guild
Scales on Audra should have color options
Split tattoos and makeup catagorys, add ninja class as a start, more height options for each race I feel like while there is average height our characters could realistic my be smaller or taller than the normal, personally I'd like age sliders to change up how different we all are, at least young/old stuff
Add a scars category
nd add a tattoo category
Add body jewelry
And I'm good

Better light in the character creator, how many of you took ''hours'' trying to pick your skintone to it looks nothing like you tought it was going to look like in the actual game?

Bumping thread

upvoted. Also, cat girl got to have the option to not have any face marking. I really hate these.

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I would enjoy it if we had more scar options. Bigger scars that are caused by other things than sword/knife slashes (such as: burn scars, acid burn scars, bullet scars, surgery scars (stitches, top surgery scars, etc), animal/voidsent/dragon/etc claw scars, and maybe even lightning strike scars since those look pretty unique), things like missing parts (like one of the tips for miqote), and body scars. Tail scars for Au ra, miqo'te, and hrothgar may also be nice (missing scales/fur patches). In the case of unique au ra scars/sustained damage it could be scratches, knicks, cracks, and broken off portions of au ra horns. In this game we fight very intense battles that have things that would easily hurt people- why don't we have more scar options?

+1 for butt slider

Fluffier tails for miqos, please! And ear options, please. c:

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Originally Posted by kevin_satron

2. Slider needs to be more intense (for example muscle tones, make it so that we can have chubby body)

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(Just to clear things up. I like most of the other things OP suggested as well, I just wanted to point that one out.)

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

SE, make freckles independent from makeup, please

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Some (or one?) Two of the male Viera faces already have freckles as a facial feature. They should just make it a thing for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Vazdan

I've got a full beard past my neck IRL and it sucks I can't represent that in game. SE PLEASE add more beard options to the character creator.

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THIS. SO MUCH.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

I'll never stop requesting it when given the chance:

MALE. HIGHLANDER. EYEBROWS

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I don't even play a Highlander and I want this. I'll never understand why the devs thought the lack of eyebrows was a good design choice.


A suggestion of my own: Scars for Lalafells and Au Ra.

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This should be a major priority. I understand they have old code and an old engine and old hardware holding them back, but they just need to make it happen, whatever it takes. We joke that fashion is this game’s true endgame, but there’s truth there. People care about their appearances in this game. There’s a huge percentage of the playerbase that wants this game to be their social game, and leaning into that would benefit the game so much.

I recall YoshiP being somewhat taken aback when “2 dye channels” got more voracious applause than the expansion trailer or the job reveals. People lost their minds with excitement just at the mention of a little more room for personal expression. I don’t know how that wasn’t a huge wake up call for them about what their fans are truly yearning for.

I'd like female Viera to get the angled Bob cut that female races have
and to get Y'shtola Modish hair & Aymerics hair from the Mog Station
Male Viera also have not gotten Thancreds hair from the Mog Station outfit
Frans hairstyle (with the armor cap and without)
Mjrns hairstyle

Long hairstyles for everyone: side braids, Chignon bun with a larger bun- we literally only have 1 chignon/bun hairstyle & it's pitiful to look at.
Hilda's ponytail, Gaia's hair (even if it's adjusted to be shorter)
Emet's hair
Hythlodeaus hair

Better short hairstyles and face with facial hair and full beards - eyebrows for Highlander males.
chest hair for a 2nd masculine body type

Butt & thigh slider
Bulge slider

Interchangeable horns for Au Ra- horns not being stuck to a set face

Miqo'te tails with jewelry on them, different Miqo'te ear shapes
Au Ra horns with jewelry on them
Upright Viera ears with spots on them like the Viera from FF12
Elf ears for Hyurs
Human ears for Elezen
Garlean eye for Hyur & elezen

2 years later and I'm still such a strong advocate for this.

Even more so recently since I've been trying to make a male Viera that I actually like, and its been a struggle. being able to mix & match this options from the other face types would elevate XIV by so much

I love Male Viera face 3, but I hate the options that come with it, and would love to take the freckles, tattoo and facial hair from face 2 and use them on face 3.

but alas at this point, this will probably forever be just a dream.

Add some rabbit tails to the Viera already!
I completely agree about the body sliders, when playing as a miqo'te I always wanted to make my character less pumped up. And I also wanted to see more variations of the ears! I always dreamed of tassels on the ears, like lynxes or caracals. And so that these ears are not hidden in hats, as is happening now in 95% of cases, if you put any new headdress on a miqo'te, it hides the ears and I turn into a hyur without ears. Also add more variations of the tails. More sliders for the body, face, ears, tails. Also sliders for choosing the color of hair, eyes and body!

Honestly at this point I think they just dont have the talent to pull off a character customization addition unless they want to risk their code to explode.
I bet if they added new facetypes or beards, everyone else couldnt wear hats either

All I wish was that there was tall fem aura's.

my sub would be worth paying then.

I just want the 2B leggings to be the default lower half for female characters. My main is a female Viera and it sucks how I can't have her wear pants most of the time because her butt is so flat and her legs are so skinny that her upper top clothes don't mesh well with the pants she's wearing.

It's hard for me to describe, but it just looks off and awkward when she wears most pants and it sucks because I've had to give up wearing so many pants with certain tops for glamours because of the default models pancake ass and matchstick legs! >:/

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Originally Posted by Innio

Add some rabbit tails to the Viera already!
I completely agree about the body sliders, when playing as a miqo'te I always wanted to make my character less pumped up. And I also wanted to see more variations of the ears! I always dreamed of tassels on the ears, like lynxes or caracals. And so that these ears are not hidden in hats, as is happening now in 95% of cases, if you put any new headdress on a miqo'te, it hides the ears and I turn into a hyur without ears. Also add more variations of the tails. More sliders for the body, face, ears, tails. Also sliders for choosing the color of hair, eyes and body!

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Agreed on the head pieces hiding the ears being annoying. You can support this thread if you want to increase visibility on the matter.

We should also be able to choose whether to have blackened ear tips as well as their color on male miqo'te. Right now, the blackened ear patterns are specific to certain haircuts.

Finally, applying the graphical update to character bodies is pretty much a necessity.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

I bet if they added new facetypes or beards, everyone else couldnt wear hats either

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Hopefully not. We're in dire need of more beard types for the males of all races.

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Originally Posted by TakoyakiLala

I just want the 2B leggings to be the default lower half for female characters. My main is a female Viera and it sucks how I can't have her wear pants most of the time because her butt is so flat and her legs are so skinny that her upper top clothes don't mesh well with the pants she's wearing.

It's hard for me to describe, but it just looks off and awkward when she wears most pants and it sucks because I've had to give up wearing so many pants with certain tops for glamours because of the default models pancake ass and matchstick legs! >:/

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I totally agree. I wish they could somehow let us choose a better body shape. It would be so nice if they could do this. I want my character to have some curves and look better in armour.

I would dearly love to see more height range in all of the races.

On average, there tends to be about a foot of difference between the smallest 'normal' heights and the tallest before getting into outliers and giantism or dwarfism. Let's reflect that in game! Let's have tall women that don't specifically come from tall races and short men that don't specifically come from short races! I would love to make K'rina 5'7 or 5'8 or so. I would love to see Midlander men who are 6'2 or 6'3. I would love to see Highlander men who are 5'10 burly balls of rage, spite, and spinach!

I would also like to see muscle tone for all races and the various sliders others have mentioned... just more options in general. But definitely the height!

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Originally Posted by Luluna

I totally agree. I wish they could somehow let us choose a better body shape. It would be so nice if they could do this. I want my character to have some curves and look better in armour.

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If the devs can't added sliders for a character's lower half, then at least having 2 to 4 variants of pre-made body shapes would be nice.