is it coincidence that the majority of winning design contest entrants are japanese?

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Originally Posted by Kazhar

A large portion of the playerbase is Japanese so of course there will be a lot of Japanese winners, there's no big conspiracy behind it.

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Factually incorrect.

there are over 550k NA endgame characters and under 350k JP endgame characters.

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Originally Posted by dwodmots

Look at this: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/worldstatus/
Japan is the largest region.

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having more servers does not indicate a larger region, infact it shows that JP is favourited for updates by the developers.

Here are the accurate numbers for a comparison.
https://ffxivcensus.com

Now tell me that JP doesnt get the better end of the stick.

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Originally Posted by Meowdyj

I'm just sad this one didn't win.

https://i.ibb.co/VYGC0nz/2d09e666ca4...82f33aea-7.jpg

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Not the only one, i saw this in the runner up and my only thought was 'why tf didnt this win?'

Its such a unique weapon, flipping the whole concept of 'edgy' reaper on it's head and showing the other side of what a Reaper could be.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I can see why. That's relic/raid level weapon design there, they can't let themselves be outclassed. :p

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Didn't they pick something really complex for MNK weapon?

Honestly I don't know what their scoring system is. Sometimes they pick a design that's so complex, but then they pick something like the SGE winner (feo ul wings with minimalistic design).

I don't even care IF it's true they tend to pick Japanese entry more, I'm just confused with their choice most of the time.

I think the simplest way to look at it is, some amount of English-language designs are picked, therefore they are looking at the English-language designs. And it would be outright silly for them to look at the designs and then deliberately take less because of the artist's language.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Factually incorrect.

there are over 550k NA endgame characters and under 350k JP endgame characters.

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Kazhar is factually correct. Saying "large portion" is not the same as saying "majority" and the numbers you list would indicate a large portion.

Number of characters is not the same as number of players. I don't know if JP players are as likely as NA players to create alts and get them to level cap.

Without being able to see actual account numbers, we really don't have any way of know which region has more players.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Japanese players have a slight edge in the game design contests if only because they're more likely to share aesthetic tastes with those of Japanese developers. There's nothing nefarious about it and I don't get why anyone wants to turn it into an issue.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

having more servers does not indicate a larger region, infact it shows that JP is favourited for updates by the developers.

Here are the accurate numbers for a comparison.
https://ffxivcensus.com

Now tell me that JP doesnt get the better end of the stick.

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Nothing about the census displays favoritism. If you're thinking about population per world being less for JP, that's because they tend to prefer lower population worlds than NA and EU players. It's pretty common to hear NA players complaining about being on dead worlds despite the unofficial census showing the NA worlds as having twice as many active characters.

I think the reason for it is the cultural difference.

Japan, the country of anime and manga has probably on average more people who are interested in Art and design and they are more likely to send theirs in.

Like, let FFxiv player build football (soccer) teams to play against each other.
You will have the most winner be from the EU, because on average we are better then the rest of the world, because we play it more often.

Also, the JP playerbase knows the current style of what other Japanese people like, so they are more likely to do something of the judges liking.

Simply different style and more “what they are looking for” probably.

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

yes, but that playerbase is eclipsed by both the north american and european playerbase. i don't think there is a conspiracy, i just think it's a funny coincidence. don't you?

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I dont understand what's funny about it, please explain.

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Originally Posted by Curisu

Japan, the country of anime and manga has probably on average more people who are interested in Art and design and they are more likely to send theirs in.

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A reputation that japan also has is that its a lot more public transport oriented (i have no idea if this is realy true), something that is excelent time spending to draw something. Even at school i already noticed that the people who used public transport most, were the ones most often drawing.

Sure, these days gaming is more of an option. But its not like everyone is going to game (interupting a session is often anoying, yet with drawing you can do this instantly and continue at any point).

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

i just thought that was an interesting coincidence i observed

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So did you even bother to look at the entries before making the OMG post, i'm going to guess no. A) the Finalist designs are really good and clever and B) there are
English runner-up entries...

All I know is that I put in a RPR weapon design and it didn't get picked. Now I'm sad.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

So did you even bother to look at the entries before making the OMG post, i'm going to guess no. A) the Finalist designs are really good and clever and B) there are
English runner-up entries...

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Are the SGE winners really all that clever? Cooking/eating utensils as weapons have been a meme forever, and... I guess those are insect wings? I dunno, I don't think they're ugly by any means but neither of these winners strikes me as "clever".

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

Are the SGE winners really all that clever? Cooking/eating utensils as weapons have been a meme forever, and... I guess those are insect wings? I dunno, I don't think they're ugly by any means but neither of these winners strikes me as "clever".

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They're fae wings (likely designed after Feo Ul) and they should satisfy Sages that were hoping they would be included in Titania's glowy weapon set from earlier in the year

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Originally Posted by UkcsAlias

A reputation that japan also has is that its a lot more public transport oriented (i have no idea if this is realy true), something that is excelent time spending to draw something. Even at school i already noticed that the people who used public transport most, were the ones most often drawing.

Sure, these days gaming is more of an option. But its not like everyone is going to game (interupting a session is often anoying, yet with drawing you can do this instantly and continue at any point).

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Support for the arts isn't the best in the US at least, so that's probably a factor.

Long as we get good designs, I don't care if the winners are all Japanese.
I hope they do another hair contest and pick some long ones for once. People's standards are in the dirt right now SE; most people don't care if the hairs clip.

i remember few years ago in the furnishing contest, they choosed SEVEN designs of one japanese person, like what he is going to do with 7 cloud strife hairstyles?

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Originally Posted by OperaMorgana

i remember few years ago in the furnishing contest, they choosed SEVEN designs of one japanese person, like what he is going to do with 7 cloud strife hairstyles?

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Hopefully finish that freakin' FF7 remake. I really want to see if they are going to double down on the Kingdom Hearts silliness of the time ghosts, lol.

Megaman robot master design contests tended to be won by Japanese fans as well. Though I suspect one reason might be Japanese players being more attuned to using a style of concept art that Japan developers use. Which just by presentation could potentially make them more likely to be picked. Selecting from thousands of applicants is likely daunting to say the least. My guess would be the people judging them give most entries maybe a second or two of a glance then make some sort of judgement on that. So naturally they would gain more information about what an entry was if they used styles, descriptions, and layouts that was more aligned to what the team is used to working with.

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Originally Posted by Simba_Tia

Megaman robot master design contests tended to be won by Japanese fans as well. Though I suspect one reason might be Japanese players being more attuned to using a style of concept art that Japan developers use. Which just by presentation could potentially make them more likely to be picked. Selecting from thousands of applicants is likely daunting to say the least. My guess would be the people judging them give most entries maybe a second or two of a glance then make some sort of judgement on that. So naturally they would gain more information about what an entry was if they used styles, descriptions, and layouts that was more aligned to what the team is used to working with.

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I'm sure they give every entry a decent amount of time, but certain things you can see right away will look awkward at best or be difficult to implement. Some of the sage weapon designs are too round in shape. If the laser shark entry had been done as a longer and leaner wing model, it might've had a better shot.