What would bring me back to Scholar

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Originally Posted by RylaBee

What is wrong with Physick? Its 40% cheaper than Adlo, raw heals 50% more and has 0.5 shorter cast.
It has its emergency/mana saving uses, especially in lower 4-man dungeons.

If I would NEED to replace it completely with Adlo, I wouldn't do it sooner than @45 when you get Lustrate.
But that would be messy, since it would have to co-exist with Adlo between levels 30-45.

Remember, that some of us still run leveling roulette, not to mention actual sprouts.

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Scholar used to get Aetherflow/Energy Drain at level 6, and had a trait called Aetherdam that increased the stacks SCH would get of Aetherflow as it leveled. If Physick becoming Adlo would effect SCH's MP economy so much, SCH should get Aetherflow earlier again, along with Lustrate at a lower level and the Aetherdam trait back so SCH isn't slinging out 3 600 potency Lustrates every 60s in content below level 45. Or they could just lower the MP cost of Adlo, as they did with Succor many times back in ShB.
They can easily deal with these things by putting a little effort into considering how healers play, considering that yanking Aetherflow out of SCH's early levels to give it back at level 45 is likely why SCH has "mana issues" if it does at those levels.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

It's rubbish, that's what's wrong with it. If you lean on Physick in dungeons you're playing poorly. I'm just going to say that straight without sugar coating it.

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No, it is not rubbish, just neglected like Cure I on high levels. No need to be rude.
I don't "lean" on Physick, I use it where appropriate, that is what emergency use means.

Adlo spamm will very often canibalize its own shield, while healing less and for 250% mana cost. There are situations where occasional Physics is better.
ex: running OOM in pull gone super wrong
ex: out of AF stacks & Recitation, and need to cleanse Doom by topping someone

If they smartly reworked Physick, sure I'm all for it. But just turning it into Adlo @30 would create some problems.

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Originally Posted by RylaBee

No, it is not rubbish, just neglected like Cure I on high levels. No need to be rude.
I don't "lean" on Physick, I use it where appropriate, that is what emergency use means.

Adlo spamm will very often canibalize its own shield, while healing less and for 250% mana cost. There are situations where occasional Physics is better.
ex: running OOM in pull gone super wrong
ex: out of AF stacks & Recitation, and need to cleanse Doom by topping someone

If they smartly reworked Physick, sure I'm all for it. But just turning it into Adlo @30 would create some problems.

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... But If Adloquium spam will cannibalize it's own shield... that means the incoming damage is so low that it doesn't go past the 300 potency barrier on top of Adloquium's heal value. Why would you need to Physick then?

In a pull gone super wrong, if Adloquium eats the barrier, that cast might as well been used for a Ruin since Adloquium can also heal raw HP after applying a shield. If the damage is that low where Adloquium doesn't break, they'll certainly not die if you don't cast a second Adloquium with the faerie still healing in the background too. If it's at a point where they wouldn't have survived without casting another Adloquium because only a small portion of the shield remains (on top of whatever Adloquium healed initially), then they certainly would not have survived if you cast Physick as the total effective potency of Physick is lower than Adloquium.

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Originally Posted by RylaBee

I don't "lean" on Physick, I use it where appropriate, that is what emergency use means.

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Or they can just prevent that emergency from happening from very first place. SCH in particular, is excels at that.

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Originally Posted by RylaBee

Adlo spamm will very often canibalize its own shield, while healing less and for 250% mana cost.

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That's why they do not spam Adlo when it is not needed. When the damage is not high enough to consume the shield, rest assured. It's certainly won't be high enough to kill your tank right off the bat neither. There is no reason to reapply Adlo there and certainly not Physick neither. Even if you do need the raw heal when you're out of fae gauge and AF stock, you will prioritize Emergency Tactic+Adlo over Physick.

All those adds up to literally shove Physick even lower in priority list, down to the point you only use it only when you're absolutely out of option like you've mentioned: OOM, no AF stack, no recit, no fae gauge. Nothing, at all. Physick will almost never be better than any other options. Running out of options does not make Physick better. If any, It shows that either they're dealing with a clown fiesta party or there is some serious flaw in that SCH's gameplay.

So why not free up that 1 button?

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Originally Posted by RylaBee

No, it is not rubbish, just neglected like Cure I on high levels. No need to be rude.
I don't "lean" on Physick, I use it where appropriate, that is what emergency use means.

Adlo spamm will very often canibalize its own shield, while healing less and for 250% mana cost. There are situations where occasional Physics is better.
ex: running OOM in pull gone super wrong
ex: out of AF stacks & Recitation, and need to cleanse Doom by topping someone

If they smartly reworked Physick, sure I'm all for it. But just turning it into Adlo @30 would create some problems.

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Not to be rude, but overwriting your own galvanize is your own error. This comes with either inexperience, or not trusting your tank. Also trust me, I do think about how changes I suggest will impact leveling. That being said you need to take into account that the level Lucid Dreaming is acquired has been lowered, further nullifying any MP economy issues that might be of concern. SCH soulstone also comes packed with Embrace and Whispering Dawn which are MP and GCD free and will alleviate some of the demand on your MP early on.

As another poster suggested, lowering the level Emergency Tactics is acquired would help stressful healing scenarios, which can happen early if your tank bites a little more than can be chewed, but the need for Physick goes completely out the window once you acquire Adlo. Adlo is your go-to heal when no oGCD heal is available, and best get used to it early on. However, I am also pondering on if ET should allow for an instant cast as well, but only on adlo and succor.

Aetherflow, Lustrate, and Energy Drain are all acquired at level 45, and fit my recommendation perfectly. This is just fine being the 'game changing' level for SCH. The AoE variants of Indom and some new offensive ability can be gained later to give instant QoL and combat effectiveness added to multiple enemy scenarios and 8-man comps. The new AoE Aetherflow offensive variant I suggested will be a new button, so it is imperative that Physick goes away.

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Originally Posted by RylaBee

Adlo spamm will very often canibalize its own shield, while healing less and for 250% mana cost. There are situations where occasional Physics is better.

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As mentioned above Adlo spam can't cannibalize it's own shield. The tank is either taking heavy damage where the shield breaks between each GCD, or the shield isn't breaking so you simply Broil until Adlo is needed again.

I'm not intentionally being rude or accusing you directly of leaning on Physick, just stating it clearly because it needs to be said. Physick is rubbish. The emergency situations are incredibly rare and reducing the cost to 700mp would solve a lot of them.

They're never getting rid of Physick and Cure and Benefic, they'd have to have more faith in the playerbase that heals than they have shown in their design (they don't have a lot of faith in healers going by their design decisions is what i mean), what they should do if they aren't gonna remove them though is give it a Esunaga effect. Now it's justified as a button and the Devs don't have to overheat the brains of the people they are hypothetically designing healers for and as a bonus this frees up a slot for an ability that can be a gap closer tailored to the aesthetic of every other healer that isn't SGE because personally speaking if they're gonna insist on some homogenization for the role than they should homogenize the mobility of the role and bring it up to SGE's standard, because they only seem to be comfortable giving healers fluff and nothing is more fluff than mobility except its the kind of fluff that can be satisfying as you look sick AF demonstrating your knowledge of the fight by dashing out of stuff at the last minute for a clutch raise or just greed for DPS as you try and busy yourself with healer gameplay.

Justifying a button because there are niche cases here and there is how you get button bloat. SCH especially is plagued with this problem and I'd rather get a better skill to replace Physick.

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Originally Posted by Alpheus

They're never getting rid of Physick and Cure and Benefic, they'd have to have more faith in the playerbase that heals than they have shown in their design (they don't have a lot of faith in healers going by their design decisions is what i mean), what they should do if they aren't gonna remove them though is give it a Esunaga effect.

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Arguably Benefic I is the most useless of them, because Benefic II is already 700MP cost and 1.5s cast. Not to mention they are both direct heals only.
Compared to that, Physick retains more value(however weak) for SCH.

Adding to basic "I" heals Esuna effect when you get, the "II" versions and deleting Esuna instead would actually work well, althou it feels weird.

PS: Homogenization in giving everyone gap-closers is just bleh, we already have homogenization enough as it is. I for example mained PLD in SB, and I still don't agree they given PLD gap closer, just like many other "1-size fits all" decisions that are gutting identities of various jobs.

I’d rather just buff Physick to be usable over the Adlo shield without being a total trap. 500 potency base. 600 with the dumb trait upgrade. Done. It’ll be irrelevant regardless but actually useful if you’re stuck using it.

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Originally Posted by Grimoire-M

I’d rather just buff Physick to be usable over the Adlo shield without being a total trap. 500 potency base. 600 with the dumb trait upgrade. Done. It’ll be irrelevant regardless but actually useful if you’re stuck using it.

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It still woudn't by virtue of GCD efficiency if you spend a GCD healing you want the highest returns possible so if Adlo has even 50 potency more it will be prioritized, in the case of physick in particular there are also a bunch of extra problemas that would make a potency buff virtually useless like:

-The existence of the fairy, the low hp heal of Adlo works good with Embrace, one heals the hp less but gives a shield while the other only heal hp meaning overhealing is more easily avoided. Physick with higher potency would create overhealing scenarios more easily

-The rest of the kit, almost all of the Sch cds are hp heals so even if physick is used to weave the same previous problems happen (and if you're going weave ED why the fuck are you using Physick)

-The extra shield of critdlo making, in the case of a crit (which Sch can force even if its not optimal) Adlo a much more efficient heal

-The lack of meaningful mp management

Instead of buffing a trash heal they could simply lower the cd of Emergency tactics, make it unlockable at lv30, lower the mp cost and cast time of Adlo giving Sch an extra button to add a meaningful action that is used more times than once in a blue moon