No group queue in Crystalline Conflict made all my friends uninstall :(

Uninstalling seems like an extreme response to this, but I agree with the general sentiment. I'm certainly not playing the new pvp if I can't even at least bring a single friend with me.

It's such a bizarre decision on the part of the development team. Are they unaware that a not insignificant amount of players operate as a duo and queue up for a lot of content together...?

I'm really getting tired of this game's alienation of players who actually want to interact with something other than a mirror or fictional comfort characters.

Welp I was looking forward to forming a pvp static and pushing "rating". This actually takes all the desire to try the new pvp out. Hopefully one day ff14 will have decent pvp. Can't Que with friends is actually HORRID/ 1/10 devs

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Originally Posted by Arrius

Winning on Casual grants a bigger payout in XP for your PvP and Series Rank (700 vs 900 XP). So it matters if you put in some effort of doing your best in it.
This won't go well when you have to fight premades that run certain setups and become unkillable. And there are certain setups that really are difficult

So it's best to have the premades fight exclusively their own. Nothing wrong to get put on equal sized teams, right?

Or maybe that was not your intention in first place, and instead just wanting to slap non-premades around and having a good time with your friends at the expense of the others, who might have been unlucky to be matched against your group, for quick XP and looking good on the scorecards to flex on it.

Because, lets face it, quite some people get their fuzzy feelings by owning people in PvP.

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or maybe i just want to play the new pvp mode in a playlist where i can dick around with friends and do dumb stuff without caring about win/loss or performance. you know, fun.

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Originally Posted by LeonKeyh

Agreed generally, but you don't want to push out solo casual queuers since every time they queue they're just steamrolled. Then people who don't realize it's because they're playing against premades will think that is a "normal" experience in PvP and just not play.

I think that:

Casual - Solo
Casual - Premade (1-5 players)
Ranked - Solo

would be good enough. Casual premade would allow solo players and smaller groups to fill in parties <5 players. That lets people play together while maintaining the "integrity" of the ranked and solo casual groups.

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prolly a better idea honestly since its better for duos/triples as well

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Originally Posted by Tlachtga

or maybe i just want to play the new pvp mode in a playlist where i can dick around with friends and do dumb stuff without caring about win/loss or performance. you know, fun.



prolly a better idea honestly since its better for duos/triples as well

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Problem with separating it that was is that solos would never queue in the casual - premade queue(why would they?), which would mean 4-man groups might as well not exist, and duos would only be able to group with trios, which creates weird bottlenecks based off of size of groups people play in.

Better to just do casual - any size and ranked - solo only

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Originally Posted by Tlachtga

its a casual playlist, that shouldn't matter. if you want to win, go play ranked, where victory actually matters and there's no premades.

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casual premades still generally want to win lol. it's all fun and games until you go against a "casual" 5man who will consistently stomp, then people will complain about premades and we'll be back to where we are now. :P

if mobas taught me anything, people want easy wins so going hard in casual mode = easy. I like Leon's idea of categorizing it into different ques, but that means solo que dies most likely lol

I'm ok with group queue as long as the queue is separate from non party queue.

Ranked is garbage atm. I understand that the mode is new, and that's fine, but if you don't understand the mode then go play the casual mode. That's why it's there. All the rewards are still available in casual (except the 3 rank specific rewards, which if you are throwing ranked you are not getting anyways). I'm probably in the minority here, but they need to remove all the one shot bs from skills as well. Samurai are running around one shotting entire teams and Machinist occasionally gets a free kill. It's bad game design. Make Zanketsuken similar to Ninja where it only one shots at half health so there is at least some sort of way to deal with it. Not... oh, let me just run up here and yeetus deletus the whole enemy group if they are grouped up because they are trying to push/block the crystal.

Still having a ton of fun with Crystal Conflict and I'm addicted to it. It just needs some fixing in certain spots.

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

It's not up to RNG if you're being matched with players of your skill. It's easy to get 3-4 other extremely skilled friends to steamroll messily-matched enemies to get your own rank up.

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Far as I understand it's random who the game puts you with rn. And most matches are one sided asf. It's rare to get struggle matches. If I'm getting players of my skill as you claim the others should not be pushover or overwhelming on the other team.

Sounds like the OP needs new friends.

Why is there not an option to queue as a group? For ranked I understand, they don't want single players to have to complete against groups, but some of us just want to have fun with our friends in this "massively multiplayer online" game that I have to pay a subscription to play. Am I crazy or is it mental that there is not the ability to queue with friends in this game mode? I was excited for this as it was finally PVP that looked interesting, which I have not enjoyed in any game, yet this kills the entire mode for me. My entire FC is posting how much of a colossal failure this mode is due to this one issue.

How sad.

There's a rather simple solution to this.

Put a little check box that you can check if you're ok with letting the game fill your group for you.

If you have at least 4 players in your group then you're considered a pre-made group and well only be matched with other pre-mades.

Otherwise the game will fill the rest of your spots for you and you'll be put into the 1 - 3 group. (The solo queue if you will)

That way I can queue with 1 or 2 friends and still get 2 other solo/duo queuers. Or I can queue with 3 or 4 friends and get a pre-made queue.

Simply not being able to play with my friends in a multiplayer game feels terrible.

Unlike Frontline, CC has two modes. Casual already pits top 100 players against first timers so they could easily allow group queueing into that mess, while Ranked would remain more evenly balanced option with only solo queue.

If they add group queues, I wish they'd add a notification on the party list of who is grouped with who. Nothing I hate more is being surprised ganged up on in discussions because I didnt know player B, C, and D were together. Or caught off by wacky shit. Like if I see 3 people in a group in my party, at least I can assume all support is going to them from each other and I can adapt around that information.

after watching the London fan fest Crystalline Conflict tournament and having pre-made vs pre-made i cant see how this can be a difficult task they can't manage

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Originally Posted by ThaCa

Unlike Frontline, CC has two modes. Casual already pits top 100 players against first timers so they could easily allow group queueing into that mess, while Ranked would remain more evenly balanced option with only solo queue.

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This is the 115% correct take. Devs are out of touch per usual.