Prepare yourself for very little numerical change from the Media Influencer Release

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

at least it'll hit the ranged DPSers standing off in Narnia now? lol

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https://media2.giphy.com/media/VHW0X0GEQQjiU/giphy.gif

DPS find a way to stand JUST outside of it's radius.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

at least it'll hit the ranged DPSers standing off in Narnia now? lol

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I doubt. I still see some instances of people missing my SCH's Consolation even when I placed the fairy/seraph on dead center relative to all party members' location. I'll still take the change. Nothing infuriates me more than seeing a tank in wall pulls steps outside the sparky star as it detonates, missing the heal entirely.

I wish they buff Asylum's and Soil's radius though. 10y or 12y is good enough, even.

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Originally Posted by rewd

SGE's changes are quite meh. Holos being revamped is nice because it's not a blatant copy of Fey Blessing anymore.

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Wait, they did what with Holos?

-checks notes-

THAT'S SO GOOD, THO?!

Also, it looks like Taurochole and Kerachole can't stack.

Edit: Didn't Pneuma also have a damage reduction effect at one point? I think it just heals now.

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Originally Posted by inhaledcorn

Wait, they did what with Holos?

-checks notes-

THAT'S SO GOOD, THO?!

Also, it looks like Taurochole and Kerachole can't stack.

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It is! I like new Holos, I'm just a bit meh on the rest. For example Haima and Panhaima got a nice potency buff, but the 15s duration is eeeh...

Tauro and Kera not stacking with each other isn't new btw.

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Originally Posted by rewd

It is! I like new Holos, I'm just a bit meh on the rest. For example Haima and Panhaima got a nice potency buff, but the 15s duration is eeeh...

Tauro and Kera not stacking with each other isn't new btw.

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I think they moved the damage reduction from Pneuma to Holos. So, Pneuma is a raw heal now with damage.

But they made the shields stronger (I think) on Pan/Haima to make up for the reduced duration.

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Originally Posted by inhaledcorn

But they made the shields stronger (I think) on Pan/Haima to make up for the reduced duration.

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They did make the shields stronger, but they also changed how remaining stacks work. In the media tour build, both the shield and the healing from remaining stacks had the same potency, meaning you'd always get the same overall potency no matter what. Now the remaining stacks only heals you for half of the shield potency, so you end up missing potency if you don't consume all 5 stacks.

With a 15s window, it's quite harder to consume every stack. It makes the skills a bit more interesting though, I'd say.

edit: to address your other question, yes. They moved the damage reduction to Holos and to compensate Pneuma heals a bit more now.

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Originally Posted by rewd

They did make the shields stronger, but they also changed how remaining stacks work. In the media tour build, both the shield and the healing from remaining stacks had the same potency, meaning you'd always get the same overall potency no matter what. Now the remaining stacks only heals you for half of the shield potency, so you end up missing potency if you don't consume all 5 stacks.

With a 15s window, it's quite harder to consume every stack. It makes the skills a bit more interesting though, I'd say.

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I think that's what they wanted. I don't think they want us using it on cooldown, basically. Still, I don't really see why we shouldn't?

I think they added the pixies wings to remind people there once was a job with a fairy.

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Originally Posted by relhsur

if they did that we'd just be using Eukrasian Diagnosis every time it gets eaten O.O

edit: (excuse my overthinking this) that'd make sadge so hecking broken, free single target heals with no repercussions on dps (isn't it 1k+ potency at times with crit) PLUS free movement because it's instant cast.. not even including the movement you get from toxikon lmfaaoo. i'm so sorry are you guys trolling??????///

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Unsustainable because of MP costs. I mean technically, it's sorta sustainable with toxikon becoming free GCD and E. Diagnosis is cheaper than Adloquium (900 MP), but ... you'd lose the whole advantage of Soteria and Cardia in the first place, so you'd lose healing value in very tight - MP intensive fights. Though I don't think that's an actual problem for most content, so maybe you're right.

Okay, who is the fool who set up these changes for SCH? A 30 potency boost for Lily is nice, but did we really need:

40 potency nerf on Whispering Dawn
100 potency nerf on Fey Union
30 potency nerf on Fey Blessing
20 potency nerf on Seraphic Veil
50 potency nerf on Consolation

Lily is now worse in the abilities department in return for better Embrace. That is not a good tradeoff.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Okay, who is the fool who set up these changes for SCH? A 30 potency boost for Lily is nice, but did we really need:

40 potency nerf on Whispering Dawn
100 potency nerf on Fey Union
30 potency nerf on Fey Blessing
20 potency nerf on Seraphic Veil
50 potency nerf on Consolation

Lily is now worse in the abilities department in return for better Embrace. That is not a good tradeoff.

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Actually, her potency is about the same as player's now, or at least extremely close. So in many of those cases, the ability is stronger

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Okay, who is the fool who set up these changes for SCH? A 30 potency boost for Lily is nice, but did we really need:

40 potency nerf on Whispering Dawn
100 potency nerf on Fey Union
30 potency nerf on Fey Blessing
20 potency nerf on Seraphic Veil
50 potency nerf on Consolation

Lily is now worse in the abilities department in return for better Embrace. That is not a good tradeoff.

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I thought it was common knowledge that they drastically reduced pet scaling.

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Originally Posted by rewd

I thought it was common knowledge that they drastically reduced pet scaling.

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That was an interpretation. I honestly can't find any devs saying that happened. It's implied but not known yet.

Basically the best part of SCH is not knowing whether shit was nerfed yet.

We won't know until the folks over on the balance get their calculators out

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Originally Posted by Grimoire-M

That was an interpretation. I honestly can't find any devs saying that happened. It's implied but not known yet.

Basically the best part of SCH is not knowing whether shit was nerfed yet.

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Well in my boredom I jotted down the cures of various media tour videos. Cures from the Scholars averaged at about 17HP:Potency, while the fairy healing abilities averaged at about 16HP:Potency. Obviously there weren't a lot of data points to work with, and there's a lot variance with something like that. Either way, I got 50 data points, so I think it's fair to say that the fairy is either the same or really close

I hate the layers of RNG I now get to deal with on AST, I can get gimped on dmg with both astrodyne and drawing lady instead of lord like.. why. And also why remove even MORE monk positionals?!?

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Originally Posted by Grimoire-M

That was an interpretation. I honestly can't find any devs saying that happened. It's implied but not known yet.

Basically the best part of SCH is not knowing whether shit was nerfed yet.

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If you are waiting for devs to acknowledge pet scaling, you are going to wait forever.

If between

- doomposting and saying that SCH got nerfed for no reason!!!!!!!!
- considering objective data collected from the media tour and the fact that SCH and SGE have more or less matching potencies when we don't consider pet scaling

you think the most rational option is the first one, that's a bit weird.

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

I hate the layers of RNG I now get to deal with on AST, I can get gimped on dmg with both astrodyne and drawing lady instead of lord like.. why. And also why remove even MORE monk positionals?!?

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I'm annoyed we have another button for Crown Play. A 2 Seal Astrodyne isn't the end of the world, it's something like a 80-100 potency loss at most compared to 3 Seal ...but then you wonder why it even exists. Also on average you'll get about 4-5 Lord over a 8+ minute fight, which is maybe +2% damage. AST card system (except for the standard Play) is just a whole bunch of buttons and fluff for very little impact. It's unnecessary button bloat.

Re-reading the official tooltip page for SCH...

I'm just glad they merged Summon Seraph with Consolation.

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Originally Posted by rewd

If you are waiting for devs to acknowledge pet scaling, you are going to wait forever.

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They did it for SMN (specifically regarding Ifrit being made into a proper caster potency pet) so there's no reason to assume they wouldn't for SCH.

I'm already mad about what they did to the other three healers so the doomposting over SCH at this point is just a snarky laugh on top of the trashpile.