Chat Bubbles & In game Voip

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omDfsvFgxlY

"what if FFXIV had proximity chat" Warning, coarse language.

But damn funny and wayy too true.

I do not want voice chat in game, if you wanna talk to people there's plenty of solutions that are free and easy to use.

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I have not laughed this hard for a while, thank you.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

5 USD a pop, mogstation only. "Supportive" alright.

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The small RP emotes are usually [insert random grindy leveling feature for the expansion here] related but hey, gotta get them cash shop boogeyman likes. For SHB the bulk of them came from Ishgard.

I don't get why people are so adamantly against it. As if you'd get forced. Savage also got implemented and nobody gets forced to do that either. Same with Ocean Fishing, big job gauges, glam... Options are options because they are optional.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

I don't get why people are so adamantly against it. As if you'd get forced. Savage also got implemented and nobody gets forced to do that either. Same with Ocean Fishing, big job gauges, glam... Options are options because they are optional.

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Ocean fishing lets people quickly level up their fishing gatherer and is pretty easy to access.

Savage fits anyone who's any kind of hard core in a game.

Glam is for anyone who wants to be fabu/is a collector, same for many other items.

A lot of people just don't see any point in having 'chat bubbles' and think it would be a waste of resources. I've played a few games where you could only talk in chat bubbles, and it was a HUGE eye sore in seeing who said what/keeping track of it and I personally don't think it'd be a good usage of their time to add (I actually think it's the worst kind of system to have players chat in any game)

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Ocean fishing lets people quickly level up their fishing gatherer and is pretty easy to access.

Savage fits anyone who's any kind of hard core in a game.

Glam is for anyone who wants to be fabu/is a collector, same for many other items.

A lot of people just don't see any point in having 'chat bubbles' and think it would be a waste of resources. I've played a few games where you could only talk in chat bubbles, and it was a HUGE eye sore in seeing who said what/keeping track of it and I personally don't think it'd be a good usage of their time to add (I actually think it's the worst kind of system to have players chat in any game)

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It's kinda funny how people always say stuff like "more options are always good" except when it's a niche thing, then suddenly everyone screams waste of resources as if the game would go bankrupt if it were implemented. Literally no one would force you to do, have, or use anything, it's called an option for a reason

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Originally Posted by Rokke

As for chat bubbles, I actually don't see a point to them for RP as RP is (from my own experience) usually more in /em or /party and not /say. Speech bubbles would include the actions in them which would look awkward above a characters head. Either way, if optional then it being added would be fine, but I wouldn't be using it as someone on a busy server.

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I the RP group I followed here bounced off this game so hard because trying to follow a conversation in /say is a disaster. The IG chat client is one of the slower ones I've encountered, the customization is on the poor side, the lack of addons makes fixing either of those impossible without breaking the ToS, and it fights you if you dare attempt to scroll back to see something you missed.

For the record, I find chat bubbles just as hard to follow and there's no such thing as "scrollback" for those.

As you mentioned much RP is done in /p or /fc just to filter the noise down to a manageable level. The knock-on effect is that RP here tends to be very insular. Chat implementations are a key feature for RP. One that's not fit for purpose isn't exactly "RP Friendly" in the least.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

5 USD a pop, mogstation only. "Supportive" alright.

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And single character only.

Chat bubbles are essential for having context on where a person is. It would be like having people IRL talking and you having no idea where they are. Just voices.

I can't say I'd ever use speech bubbles, but I wouldn't mind if they were included as long as I could turn them off. In game voice, on the other hand, is a definite no from me. There are multiple free options out there that would undoubtedly be better than anything SE could build into the game, it could create situations where people feel forced to use voice comms where voice comms aren't necessary. Perhaps most importantly, though, it would just create a new thing that SE would need to build, update and monitor the usage of.

Chat bubbles are trivial to implement. They're not missing because of "too much resource".

It's technically already possible to see what the so called "busy" worlds look like with them too, actually. And people who post they'd fill their screen really have no idea what they're talking about. People simply do not use the in-game chat in public that much for anything but emotes.

Doesn't the game already have a basic implementation of chat bubbles? You see NPCs using them all the time. Although I suppose there'd need to be some kind of management for excessively large text strings. It could easily be a client-side toggle, and even in a city with a load of shout chat going on, you're only going to see messages from people close to you anyway.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Ocean fishing lets people quickly level up their fishing gatherer and is pretty easy to access.

Savage fits anyone who's any kind of hard core in a game.

Glam is for anyone who wants to be fabu/is a collector, same for many other items.

A lot of people just don't see any point in having 'chat bubbles' and think it would be a waste of resources. I've played a few games where you could only talk in chat bubbles, and it was a HUGE eye sore in seeing who said what/keeping track of it and I personally don't think it'd be a good usage of their time to add (I actually think it's the worst kind of system to have players chat in any game)

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And some people don't see the point of doing savage or glam? And how can it be an eye sore of it's optional?? You are just cherry-picking and your reason boils down to 'I do t want it'.

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Originally Posted by CDranzer

Doesn't the game already have a basic implementation of chat bubbles? You see NPCs using them all the time. Although I suppose there'd need to be some kind of management for excessively large text strings. It could easily be a client-side toggle, and even in a city with a load of shout chat going on, you're only going to see messages from people close to you anyway.

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yep , but SE is adamant about implementing them for players :(

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

yep , but SE is adamant about implementing them for players :(

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There is ways for PC players. But who would do such a thing? It's against the ToS. Please don't do it.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

And some people don't see the point of doing savage or glam? And how can it be an eye sore of it's optional?? You are just cherry-picking and your reason boils down to 'I do t want it'.

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Ok, and? It's called an opinion for a reason.

Still stand by the fact that I think it's the worst kind of chat system to have in any kind of multi-player game.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

There is ways for PC players. But who would do such a thing? It's against the ToS. Please don't do it.

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Yeah, you have to put your log in info into it, which is icky.
But I've seen videos of it working and it does look very nice. I'm jealous tbh.
It's a solid proof of concept that I wish SE would take off of the modding space by providing a better, and safer official option.
But don't actually use the mod though.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Ok, and? It's called an opinion for a reason.

Still stand by the fact that I think it's the worst kind of chat system to have in any kind of multi-player game.

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Opinions are like buttholes...

I personally think that having the most important part of my social interaction quarantined into a portion of my screen that I don't look at to be the worst kind of chat system in an immersive multiplayer genre.

Currently one butthole is being forced upon me.
And it's not my own. And it makes for a very uncomfortable experience.

I'd like bubbles for sure. Its such chaos trying to see who is saying what in big crowds, when text is rolling away in chat. However, it should indeed be an optional feature.

Voice chat would be a no for me tho.

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Originally Posted by Gullis

I'd like bubbles for sure. Its such chaos trying to see who is saying what in big crowds, when text is rolling away in chat. However, it should indeed be an optional feature.

Voice chat would be a no for me tho.

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I genuinely laugh at the idea of voice chat. Because if you were to enter one with me while I'm doing content all you'll hear is a woman constantly repeating 'what the f***' on repeat when things go mildly wrong.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Ok, and? It's called an opinion for a reason.

Still stand by the fact that I think it's the worst kind of chat system to have in any kind of multi-player game.

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Only that it doesn't hold water, is childish and wouldn't even affect you. The best kind of opinion. lol

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Originally Posted by NeoDivinity

Hey, i aware of how SE see addons but i feel like the option to have chat bubbles ingame would be so good. Let's make this happen ppl.

Also, when i played WoW, they have a nice in game voip for PF that helps a lot when ppl dont want to keep joining different discord channels once and a while. I get that in some situations it may be enforced to join the voip to join the group so this could not be a very good idea but i mean, that could be a good addition if nothing like this happen.

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At first when starting the game, it felt really weird to not have any chat bubbles.
Then even now whenever I roleplay, I find it weird to not have any chat bubbles.
Yes for chat bubbles! Make it happen!
Also for all the people who would say: "NOOO I don't want chat bubbles because <Random reason>" then I would also suggest an option to turn off chat bubbles.
Now they don't have an excuse to say No.