FFXIV 6.0 comes out December 7th. Pre-release is December 3rd

OH SON OF A.....actually Im not even mad. Cause this actually gives me a little more time to do other things, play and finish two other games, and maybe even take care of a few things on my Bucket list before EW.

Disappointing and upsetting, but a Blessing in disguise.
Plus I want EW to be great and Finished like anybody would.

Glad I never put in PTO for this.

If the decision was made a week ago, then I think it would have been beneficial to inform players immediately. That'd increase the amount of people who could tweak the time off that they booked.

With the current timing, however, a lot of people are now going to be unable to change things in their favour.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Just absolutely flawless for the people that have planned vacation off of work (and cannot reschedule for December), MONTHS ahead of time only to be screwed over. This might be the last straw for me and this game.

Queue the white knights attacking me and defending SE.

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See you on Release Day :D

can we please give yoshi p so much love, seeing how distraught he was over having to push it back was heartbreaking :sob: pls, it's just two weeks, we're ok, thank you for all your hard work and dedication!!!

Yay!
This is great news~
Now the expac won't drop the weekend before my finals!
(Also I never could have possibly finished my pre-6.0 to do list but this will help me get more of it done)

I'm glad that they were even able to push release back. If it needs it, it needs it, ya know? But I'm sure there were many things pushing for them to meet that timetable.

Makes me wonder what is causing this delay. Maybe they'll tell us about it in a future Q&A.

To anyone that feel bad over this 2 week delay remember that:

Cyberpunk 2077 was delayed 3 times, released as a buggy glithy mess and still has issues almost a year after release.

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Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer

To anyone that feel bad over this 2 week delay remember that:

Cyberpunk 2077 was delayed 3 times, released as a buggy glithy mess and still has issues almost a year after release.

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don't remind me. I took off vacation for that pile of crap too.

The "launch" trailer is a month early, further deflating hype. Also lul they had time to change the release date before announcing it to the public.

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Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer

To anyone that feel bad over this 2 week delay remember that:

Cyberpunk 2077 was delayed 3 times, released as a buggy glithy mess and still has issues almost a year after release.

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I dont think they will ever be able to fix that mess completely

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Originally Posted by Fayt1203

I dont think they will ever be able to fix that mess completely

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I love to think, what if they pull a No Mans Sky and fix everything....will anybody give it a 2nd chance?

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Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer

To anyone that feel bad over this 2 week delay remember that:

Cyberpunk 2077 was delayed 3 times, released as a buggy glithy mess and still has issues almost a year after release.

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Cyberpunk 2077 actually ran fine on my PC at launch. I encountered a couple broken quest triggers and a few places where it was possible to fall through the map but otherwise nothing noteworthy. I had almost no issues at all with Fallout 76 as well.

Looking back at when previous expansions launched. HW launched in June 2015, SB in June 2017, ShB in July 2019. Having Endwalker launch in Nov was most likely already a push back due to the pandemic since the previous expansions all dropped in the summer. A last minute 2 week push back during that time of the year would likely have had almost no really care. The problem with this announcement is the time of year it fell on because it's typically the hardest time of the year to schedule time off to begin with between people wanting family time and others trying to use their time off before they lose it when the year ends.

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Originally Posted by boopadoop

can we please give yoshi p so much love, seeing how distraught he was over having to push it back was heartbreaking :sob: pls, it's just two weeks, we're ok, thank you for all your hard work and dedication!!!

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The Twitch stream was repeating "A smile better suits a producer"

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Considering they only made the decision a week ago... Not much time they could have given.

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I'm sorry because there is absolutely no way they weren't aware making their deadline was going to be difficult before the last possible second. Instead of communicating this possibility so people could hold off scheduling days off, or taking the conservative route and announcing the delay much earlier, they waited.

I will preface this by saying that I do not blame Yoshida. He is the messenger here—and I know that he has his own chain of command that he has to follow when it comes to executive decisions. However, I will say this:

When you are aware of a recent history of server instability, why would you wait until three weeks prior to the expansion release to start doing QA on server stability? Why wouldn’t you have moved that up a bit more when you had the knowledge that the servers have been dying for several weeks now? I get that Yoshida said he wanted to fine tune—I appreciate his admission for that. But if a huge issue was server stability and their worries about it remaining stable during Early Access and launch…why wait to start QA? Was there absolutely no way to do it sooner? To start it a month prior to release? Was this the only time to start it? I have so many grievances right now…

I had requested time off for Early Access. I don’t know if I can get it moved now since it’s so soon. The original release was so ideal because it was the start of a new period at my job, where our workload is the lightest. A two week delay pushes it into the end of the third week—and the fourth is when we close out for the period. We only have 3.5 days to finish up everything, and maybe that doesn’t seem like such a tight window for many, but with the new systems they installed and the dumpster fire they have turned the accounts into, it is a lot more of a mess than it normally would be. With all those things in consideration, I don’t know if I’ll be able to shift my time off. And taking off the Monday will likely be completely out of the question with it falling on a period close week…

This is just such a shame. With sooner notice, I could have maybe finagled something with my boss and coworkers—gotten someone to take care of my accounts that closing Monday… but now I don’t know. I’ll just have to talk to my boss and see if I can push the days back. Maybe all the OT I’ve been working will work in my favor. But if it doesn’t, I won’t smile and lie to hide my disappointment.

How about those of us that used vacation time and have to see if we can move it >:(. A heads up would of been nice 2 weeks is sort of close

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

I'm sorry because there is absolutely no way they weren't aware making their deadline was going to be difficult before the last possible second. Instead of communicating this possibility so people could hold off scheduling days off, or taking the conservative route and announcing the delay much earlier, they waited.

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I've seen delays in stuff at big companies come down the pipe literally days before they are scheduled to go live. It happens constantly at my work. Maybe they thought they could get it done in time, but last minute issues kept that from happening.

It always amazes me how much people expect omniscience from developers.

Personally, and this is not directed at you, I find it amusing the usual complainers are complaining.

Honestly, I'll never understand people who do this, i.e. arrange for vacation days, then get upset when there's a a delay and then get upset at the SW producer because they can't reschedule. I do sympathize to an extant, however while I understand that SE has a very good reputation for sticking to schedules - schedules are never a guarantee .Anything can go wrong. there are plenty of examples in SW where someone insisted on a release date and in the end the customer suffered more, rather than someone putting their foot down and saying that an issue was discovered and the delivery should be delayed.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

I'm sorry because there is absolutely no way they weren't aware making their deadline was going to be difficult before the last possible second. Instead of communicating this possibility so people could hold off scheduling days off, or taking the conservative route and announcing the delay much earlier, they waited.

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And yet, had they done so then the reverse would be happening. People would be complaining about not being solid in their planning and it being too close to make vacation plans had the original release held. Damned if they do damned if they don't situation.

Honestly, as long as we don't end up with Raubahn Extreme II the electric boogaloo, I'm okay with a two week delay. And now I can focus playing Pokemon in the next couple weeks instead lol

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Originally Posted by DragoAskani

I would like to thank yoshi-p for letting us know too close to be able to reschedule vacation days. Thanks ever so much.

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blame QA. its called a quarantine breaking bug. it happens, if you arent associated with any kind of software development, it may seem unfair, but I doubt you want a broken launch either. sorry about your vacation, but I doubt they did it just to annoy you.

basically, they found an issue and couldnt fix it in time to have it properly tested before launch. unlike Blizzard they dont use normal players for quality control after launch.. be glad of that.

Sorry but I just thought this was funny as hell xD.

https://i.redd.it/9a8gzdhq1wx71.png

Jokes aside I am a bit disappointed obviously, but if they need it they need it.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

If the decision was made a week ago, then I think it would have been beneficial to inform players immediately. That'd increase the amount of people who could tweak the time off that they booked.

With the current timing, however, a lot of people are now going to be unable to change things in their favour.

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If the math is about right they waited till after SE annual report was released. If they had announced when they knew it would have been a damper on the report.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

blame QA. its called a quarantine breaking bug. it happens, if you arent associated with any kind of software development, it may seem unfair, but I doubt you want a broken launch either. sorry about your vacation, but I doubt they did it just to annoy you.

basically, they found an issue and couldnt fix it in time to have it properly tested before launch. unlike Blizzard they dont use normal players for quality control after launch.. be glad of that.

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That is definitely not the way he presented it. They took too much time and didn't make it to that stage. He said they even discussed reducing QA window.

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

How about those of us that used vacation time and have to see if we can move it >:(. A heads up would of been nice 2 weeks is sort of close

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While I agree that it's disappointing, so many people seem to be acting like this time off is the only time in their lives that they'll be able to play the game. It's still launching. It will still be there going forward. We just might not be in a position to binge through the content in under a week. I get the hype, I really do. But there's some people commenting here as if this delay somehow makes the game unplayable for them altogether.

Not too surprising, but I'm just glad they did the responsible thing and pushed back the date instead of forcing an incomplete launch

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Sorry but I just thought this was funny as hell xD.

https://i.redd.it/9a8gzdhq1wx71.png

Jokes aside I am a bit disappointed obviously, but if they need it they need it.

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I find it funny that the discussions will slowly turn from "WoW SL had a much sought after FOMO timed just to fudge up Endwalker" to "Endwalker is timed just to fudge up Mage Tower's return".

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Sorry but I just thought this was funny as hell xD.

https://i.redd.it/9a8gzdhq1wx71.png

Jokes aside I am a bit disappointed obviously, but if they need it they need it.

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Oh god no that's true. Oh I FEEL BAD FOR WoW

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

The Twitch stream was repeating "A smile better suits a producer"

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Oh my goooood! </3
That's really sweet.

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Originally Posted by Kyuuen

And yet, had they done so then the reverse would be happening. People would be complaining about not being solid in their planning and it being too close to make vacation plans had the original release held. Damned if they do damned if they don't situation.

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Generally for a lot of jobs, it is much easier to request time off/rearrange time off with MORE advance notice versus less—it gives your department more advance notice to find someone to cover your position (if you are in a position that needs covering). So I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say here?

Seeing Yoshi-P in tears broke my heart.
2 weeks delay is fine. Please take your time.

Let people be mad, white knighting doesn't help things.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Sorry but I just thought this was funny as hell xD.

https://i.redd.it/9a8gzdhq1wx71.png

Jokes aside I am a bit disappointed obviously, but if they need it they need it.

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For this meme alone the delay was worth it.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Just absolutely flawless for the people that have planned vacation off of work (and cannot reschedule for December), MONTHS ahead of time only to be screwed over. This might be the last straw for me and this game.

Queue the white knights attacking me and defending SE.

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https://c.tenor.com/GNx3LlvcmSwAAAAM...rk-leaving.gif

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

While I agree that it's disappointing, so many people seem to be acting like this time off is the only time in their lives that they'll be able to play the game. It's still launching. It will still be there going forward. We just might not be in a position to binge through the content in under a week. I get the hype, I really do. But there's some people commenting here as if this delay somehow makes the game unplayable for them altogether.

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True, but we play video games because it's an escape from the real world, and it's a lot easier to enjoy that escape if you get a few days to take your time and go through it at your own pace instead of only being able to do a session of a few hours between the 9-5 grind

Being an adult honestly sucks when it gets in the way of being able to enjoy the things in life that actually make it worth living, whether that be your hobbies or your loved ones

Personally I've been looking forward to basically getting to pretend to be a kid again and spend 5 days straight playing a video game that I really enjoy while not worrying about work obligations

As someone who had booked time off for the game, I have to say that I am a bit sad that it's delayed. But as with everything this past couple years, delays with releases are common so it is understandable. I just hope they're not overworking themselves and getting sick just to finish because the health of the workers is more important than a video game.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

For this meme alone the delay was worth it.

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It's definitely a dose of serotonin.

I feel for those who had arranged time off and won't be able to reschedule on such short notice.

But I'm very happy that YoshiP is putting giving us the best possible experience over rushing things. Too many game companies recently have done the latter to the disappointment of players.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Generally for a lot of jobs, it is much easier to request time off/rearrange time off with MORE advance notice versus less—it gives your department more advance notice to find someone to cover your position (if you are in a position that needs covering). So I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say here?

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True, but at the same time some places also have a strict two week window for requesting time off, making today the literal cut off point for those people. Had they done as the person posted that I quoted (as far as I understood it anyway) them going "Yep, our release time will be for the 19" and those that held back for the uncertainty would then be making the complaints. So it would literally be a 'damned if they do, damned if they don't' kind of situation.

I watched this on stream..Yoshi looks exhausted...like he hasnt slept in two days. :(:(

People getting upset because they took time off is a bit silly considering that this IS their job.
For them their involvement is so much deeper on like every single level.
It's not like they're doing it on purpose out of spite or anything.