All Saints Wake: Unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

I mean shouldn't take the US long to burn to the ground if you consider how many of these gender reveal parties are celebrated out there. At some point there are enough wildfires that even fandaniel would be impressed that we create a better "the final days" than him. He needs primals and all that, all we need are a bunch of rednecks and karens and some makeshift fireworks.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

Last year we didn't even HAVE All Saint's Wake. This year it's scheduled for November 30th. That's a full month after Halloween for North America. There are all of these other events going on: So why is Halloween cancelled yet again? (Or in this case, GROSSLY late?)

Why can't we have All Saints Wake in October like it always is? You got rid of Halloween last year: If you have some other event taking place in October, you can scrap IT instead. Halloween is one of the most popular holidays in the U.S. and with the pandemic I for one was really, REALLY looking forward to an in game Halloween event since I can't even go out for Halloween (AGAIN.)

I don't want to be choosing between doing All Saints Wake or doing expansion content. PLEASE move All Saints Wake to October, like it SHOULD be.

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1/10 troll.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

Last year we didn't even HAVE All Saint's Wake. This year it's scheduled for November 30th. That's a full month after Halloween for North America. There are all of these other events going on: So why is Halloween cancelled yet again? (Or in this case, GROSSLY late?)

Why can't we have All Saints Wake in October like it always is? You got rid of Halloween last year: If you have some other event taking place in October, you can scrap IT instead. Halloween is one of the most popular holidays in the U.S. and with the pandemic I for one was really, REALLY looking forward to an in game Halloween event since I can't even go out for Halloween (AGAIN.)

I don't want to be choosing between doing All Saints Wake or doing expansion content. PLEASE move All Saints Wake to October, like it SHOULD be.

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You realize about 90% of this planet does not care about Halloween? It could be in the middle of July and it would be basically the same for every non-north american country.

This thread is tragic, and not just because of the OP.

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Originally Posted by Breakbeat

nonsense

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You must be a blast at parties .

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Originally Posted by Karthunk

You must be a blast at parties .

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I mean there definitely is a trend with these types of threads.
Tbh most e-drama and outrage I'd say.

I am just surprised that people think Halloween is a uniquely NA thing tho.
Halloween is just commercialized shenanigans based on old traditions.
Just like Christmas, it's just old traditions with a new coat of paint and commercialized into oblivion.

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Originally Posted by Juun

Did you know Europe doesnt celebrate Halloween? Yeah its crazy right?

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Go read this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

This fourm at most events: this shite sucks! No glamour! Nothing to do! Why have events anyway?

When they move a date up because they are working on content: this post

For everyone giving the BS excuse about the expansion: We've had three events in the span of a month. But Halloween being on time is too much to ask for? It's just that one event has to be pushed back to November? Yeah you may as well cancel the stupid thing no one gives two hoots if it's in November. Halloween has already come and gone and it'll be thanksgiving moving into Christmas. That's like having a summer event while it's cold outside. It makes no sense.

They've had all of these other events go off without a hitch but that's your excuse for All Saints Wake? I could buy it if it was affecting all of the events, but it isn't: They're still pumping out all of these other events left and right. So pardon me while I don't buy that 'they're working on the expansion' BS for this 'one' event in particular.

And how dare North Americans enjoy a holiday right? For a lot of us in NA, it's the only Holiday we really enjoy and look forward to besides Christmas.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

For everyone giving the BS excuse about the expansion: We've had three events in the span of a month. But Halloween being on time is too much to ask for? .

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Did those events happen at the same time as an expansion launch? Because if not, you're making a false comparison.

The event's gonna suck anyway like all the others have for the last year, hard to care. I do wonder what hat I can't even wear or reskinned mount they'll give this time though.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

And how dare North Americans enjoy a holiday right? For a lot of us in NA, it's the only Holiday we really enjoy and look forward to besides Christmas.

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Seems pretty innocuous, doesn't it? Hand out loot to kids who go from door to door one night a year, demanding protection money.

Congratulations! Plenty of Americans do not celebrate Halloween - for religious reasons. Plenty of other countries (Japan included) don't necessarily celebrate the holiday on 31 October. Get upset. Rant and rail. It isn't going to move the date it starts one day forward.

Better late than not at all because I feel like that's the only real alternative what with Endwalker taking its place and all.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

Last year we didn't even HAVE All Saint's Wake. This year it's scheduled for November 30th. That's a full month after Halloween for North America. There are all of these other events going on: So why is Halloween cancelled yet again? (Or in this case, GROSSLY late?)

Why can't we have All Saints Wake in October like it always is? You got rid of Halloween last year: If you have some other event taking place in October, you can scrap IT instead. Halloween is one of the most popular holidays in the U.S. and with the pandemic I for one was really, REALLY looking forward to an in game Halloween event since I can't even go out for Halloween (AGAIN.)

I don't want to be choosing between doing All Saints Wake or doing expansion content. PLEASE move All Saints Wake to October, like it SHOULD be.

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It's Karens like you that make people in other countries thinks all Americans are like this, complaining about anything that is a minor annoyance at the least and a minor inconvenience at the most.... I much rather prefer an Expansion with FAR more content to drop in place of a Holiday event that has been here almost every year since the game was rereleased..... and I'm sure that the people that you are referring to in NA that like Halloween be they gamers or not are going to be out celebrating and partying instead of singing their whiny woes about an in game holiday event. Covid's here to stay and it will take so much longer then everyone like you thinks it's going to take for things to get back to normal. Be glad the game is here still for people to enjoy and connect with each other, instead of spewing your toxic filth...

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Did those events happen at the same time as an expansion launch? Because if not, you're making a false comparison.

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Last I checked October 31st and November 23rd aren't the same date. They could have easily replaced the Dragon Quest crossover with the Hallows Eve one.

Let's not pretend these "events" are major undertakings. They're re-used character models and a few paragraphs of dialog.

Generally completable in 20-30 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Cerbolt

Better late than not at all because I feel like that's the only real alternative what with Endwalker taking its place and all.

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This is why timing is important and lots of MMOs do major releases in spring or summer. Because once you get into fall you start getting into the major holiday season and then there's an excuse to delay pretty much everything.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

Last year we didn't even HAVE All Saint's Wake. This year it's scheduled for November 30th. That's a full month after Halloween for North America. There are all of these other events going on: So why is Halloween cancelled yet again? (Or in this case, GROSSLY late?)

Why can't we have All Saints Wake in October like it always is? You got rid of Halloween last year: If you have some other event taking place in October, you can scrap IT instead. Halloween is one of the most popular holidays in the U.S. and with the pandemic I for one was really, REALLY looking forward to an in game Halloween event since I can't even go out for Halloween (AGAIN.)

I don't want to be choosing between doing All Saints Wake or doing expansion content. PLEASE move All Saints Wake to October, like it SHOULD be.

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Um... would you rather have it cancelled (by the reasons we all know) again? I surely would not.

Plus, let's be real, the event questlines usually takes 30min at best...

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Last I checked October 31st and November 23rd aren't the same date. They could have easily replaced the Dragon Quest crossover with the Hallows Eve one.

Let's not pretend these "events" are major undertakings. They're re-used character models and a few paragraphs of dialog.

Generally completable in 20-30 minutes.



This is why timing is important and lots of MMOs do major releases in spring or summer. Because once you get into fall you start getting into the major holiday season and then there's an excuse to delay pretty much everything.

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The rerun was already completed and didn't add anything to the game. (no new assets, dialogue, characters, etc)

If the all saints wake quest was ready they would have released it.

Well it was either release it in November or not release it at all.

Take your pick.

I love All Saint's Wake myself so I'm glad we're at least getting one this year.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

For everyone giving the BS excuse about the expansion: We've had three events in the span of a month. But Halloween being on time is too much to ask for? It's just that one event has to be pushed back to November? Yeah you may as well cancel the stupid thing no one gives two hoots if it's in November. Halloween has already come and gone and it'll be thanksgiving moving into Christmas. That's like having a summer event while it's cold outside. It makes no sense.

They've had all of these other events go off without a hitch but that's your excuse for All Saints Wake? I could buy it if it was affecting all of the events, but it isn't: They're still pumping out all of these other events left and right. So pardon me while I don't buy that 'they're working on the expansion' BS for this 'one' event in particular.

And how dare North Americans enjoy a holiday right? For a lot of us in NA, it's the only Holiday we really enjoy and look forward to besides Christmas.

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Because the other events weren't right on top of the release as others have said they are in bug fixing mode right now. The noctis event and dragonquest event were both old. You are talking about a new event right on top of the release of endwalker.

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Originally Posted by KyoheiLockhart

Karens

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You negate your entire rant by stooping to the level of name-calling. Yeah, I know it's super popular and fashionable to bully people that act a certain way by calling them 'Karen', but it's really cringe, since usually the behavior being decried by branding someone a 'Karen' is socially unacceptable.

News flash: Name calling is 'socially unacceptable'. 'Karen' this and 'Karen' that. Did you not learn in grade school to call people by their names? Did you not learn that 'renaming' someone else based on a behavior you don't personally like, is perpetuating negativity? Did no one ever teach you not to name-call?

2021: You must behave like X or Y in public. If you rant, and it's caught on camera, or written in a forum, we of social purity will call you names to embarrass you. We think this is the best way to improve the human race - belittling people.

Calling someone Karen is, in essence, bullying. It's friggin' laughable when the 'Karen' name-call is accompanied by some diatribe about how horrible the 'Karen' is acting.

Pot? Meet kettle.

Try 'person' instead of Karen. Making one's self look superior at the expense of others is a really, really, really bad look... and if one cannot get a point across without calling names, their argument or point (whatever it may be) is on shaky ground from the start, because they clearly can't get it across without going the middle-school "haha, karen" route.

Humans are disgusting sometimes. Everyone jumping on a bandwagon and deciding the best way to curb behavior they don't like is to call names. Holy crap folks, really? It seems so very sixth-grade to me. A kid is walking down the hall after having a rant for whatever reason - be it valid or invalid - and they get "...Oh, there goes Karen again! Hahahah!" while everyone chuckles at the remark and the bully gets a high-five.

I guess bullying in school is not good; #STOPBULLYING.gov and #Antibullyingweek and #Stompoutbullying are fairly popular. We teach our children not to body-shame, not to shame based on race, or color. Not to shame folks for their gender or sexual preference. If someone is mentally or physically disabled, we don't shame them either.

But when you become an adult? If someone's rant about such-and-such is quite different from what you would rant about, then bullying them is very acceptable, and encouraged.

#BULLYINGISAWESOMEHAHAHALOOKATALLTHEKARENS. (Like and subscribe, be sure to hit that notification bell! Extra bullying available on Patreon!)

Grow. The. Hell. Up. Please. Someone, somewhere come to their senses and realize the best way forward isn't to become a sixth-grade bully. Why are we going backwards?

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Originally Posted by Breakbeat

You negate your entire rant by stooping to the level of name-calling. Yeah, I know it's super popular and fashionable to bully people that act a certain way by calling them 'Karen', but it's really cringe, since usually the behavior being decried by branding someone a 'Karen' is socially unacceptable.

News flash: Name calling is 'socially unacceptable'. 'Karen' this and 'Karen' that. Did you not learn in grade school to call people by their names? Did you not learn that 'renaming' someone else based on a behavior you don't personally like, is perpetuating negativity? Did no one ever teach you not to name-call?

2021: You must behave like X or Y in public. If you rant, and it's caught on camera, or written in a forum, we of social purity will call you names to embarrass you. We think this is the best way to improve the human race - belittling people.

Calling someone Karen is, in essence, bullying. It's friggin' laughable when the 'Karen' name-call is accompanied by some diatribe about how horrible the 'Karen' is acting. Pot? Meet kettle.

Try 'person' instead of Karen. Making yourself look superior at the expense of others is a really, really, really bad look... and if you cannot get a point across without calling names, your argument or point (whatever it may be) is on shaky ground from the start, because you clearly can't get it across without going the middle-school-haha-karen route.

Humans are disgusting sometimes. Everyone jumping on a bandwagon and deciding the best way to curb behavior they don't like is to call names. Holy crap folks, really? It seems so very sixth-grade to me. Walking down the halls after being seen ranting, "...Oh, there goes Karen again! Hahahah!" while everyone chuckles at your remark.

I guess bullying in school is not good, #STOPBULLYING.gov and #Antibullyingweek and #Stompoutbullying are fairly popular.

But when you become an adult?

#BULLYINGISAWESOMEHAHAHALOOKATALLTHEKARENS. (Like and subscribe!)

Grow the hell up. Please. Someone, somewhere come to their senses and realize the best way forward isn't to become a sixth-grade bully.

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Indeed. Attitudes like this are at the core of the issue. But you do your indifference, it's your prerogative.

Everyone thinks our huge social issues are elsewhere, and when someone climbs a tower and snipes a crowd, people go, "Oh my god, why did that happen?!?!"

But no one wants to look at day-to-day behavior, which is at the root of all this horrible crap.

Making others feel bad by calling names - and in turn making one's self feel better - isn't right, it isn't good, and it's not helping anyone on Earth. But, I suppose anyone apt to call 'Karen' at any given time or place is inclined to take your side, instead of mine, and say... "OK."

So, OK then. Bullying over here is abhorrent but bullying over there is worthy of a YouTube compilation, with a million views.

Let me off this planet.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

This is why timing is important and lots of MMOs do major releases in spring or summer. Because once you get into fall you start getting into the major holiday season and then there's an excuse to delay pretty much everything.

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It's not like they chose a November release for the hell of it. Without the unavoidable covid delays this likely would have been landing in late Summer. So I'm not sure of the point your making unless you think it'd be better to delay the expansion into next year just to preserve the timing of holiday events.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

Halloween is one of the most popular holidays in the U.S.

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Halloween is for children. Other than parties, what really is there for an adult to do? More adults play this game than children.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

Last year we didn't even HAVE All Saint's Wake. This year it's scheduled for November 30th. That's a full month after Halloween for North America. There are all of these other events going on: So why is Halloween cancelled yet again? (Or in this case, GROSSLY late?)

Why can't we have All Saints Wake in October like it always is? You got rid of Halloween last year: If you have some other event taking place in October, you can scrap IT instead. Halloween is one of the most popular holidays in the U.S. and with the pandemic I for one was really, REALLY looking forward to an in game Halloween event since I can't even go out for Halloween (AGAIN.)

I don't want to be choosing between doing All Saints Wake or doing expansion content. PLEASE move All Saints Wake to October, like it SHOULD be.

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While I get where you're coming from, All Saints is only based on Halloween, so there's no real reason it has to be held in the same timeframe.

Seasonal events have never been a main focus and while I'm personally sad that each year the rewards get more and more basic, it'salso fluff content that has no real effect on the game.

I promise you that the expansion is not going anywhere so even if you spend an hour max on All Saints', you can go back to doing the MSQ.

Halloween may be very popular in the US but not only is the Holiday not exclusive to the US, neither is the game so please don't make it about that.

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Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

Halloween is for children. Other than parties, what really is there for an adult to do? More adults play this game than children.

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Not exactly. It's enjoyed by people of all ages in various ways. Heck, even some adults still go trick or treating. Personally, I enjoy the holiday just knowing what day it is. I love the general aesthetic of Halloween. Everyone's got their own way of enjoying it.

Please just don't have any more food/outdoor furnishings. I'd love some new glamour but I ain't holding my breath for that, but for Thal's sake, I own a house and still realize it's a dick move to make one of the event items something only ~5% of the playerbase can actually use. And there's enough food furniture.

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Originally Posted by Breakbeat

Yeah, I know it's super popular and fashionable to bully people that act a certain way by calling them 'Karen', but it's really cringe, since usually the behavior being decried by branding someone a 'Karen' is socially unacceptable.

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Know whats cringe? Saying something is cringe.

Oh wait...

Anyways, do you need to speak with a manager?

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Originally Posted by Breakbeat

Let me off this planet.

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Any particular reason this thread was brought back to life? It dies 2 months ago... You know what, I'll go with "to stir up drama".

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Originally Posted by Alestorm

Any particular reason this thread was brought back to life? It dies 2 months ago... You know what, I'll go with "to stir up drama".

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To call the OP a karen apparently.

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Originally Posted by Alestorm

Any particular reason this thread was brought back to life? It dies 2 months ago... You know what, I'll go with "to stir up drama".

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Well, is halloween so .. necromancers are out and walking among us.

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Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X

Well, is halloween so .. necromancers are out and walking among us.

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Rofl, this is what I'll believe now.
Dude who brought the thread back to life is just roleplaying.

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Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X

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happy saints wake

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Originally Posted by KyoheiLockhart

It's Karens like you, yadda yadda yadda, spewing your toxic filth...

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Such a necessary necro post. . .

But since we're here

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Originally Posted by Scott

Because its All Saints Wake and not Halloween and because US isn't the center of the world.

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This is such a disingenuous take but I'm not surprised it's gotten so many likes.

It's Halloween.

Halloween is held October 31 in Japan just as it is in the U.S., Canada, and Europe. Samhain is held on Oct. 31 - Nov. 1. Day of the Dead ranges typically Oct 31. to Nov. 2

I guess it's nice that it's coming at all this year though as Deceptus has said it could have taken the place of the Dragon Quest rerun. They could have even just reran a prior All Saints' Wake so we'd at least have the atmosphere during this dead time before the expansion. When the event actually happens in late November everyone will be busy with Endwalker and...it'll be late November which as everyone knows isn't Halloween :v)

I dunno, I worked at Target for 16 years and I can say for certain that Black Friday is far more terrifying than Halloween.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I dunno, I worked at Target for 16 years and I can say for certain that Black Friday is far more terrifying than Halloween.

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I've braved the Black Friday crowd before. There's a reason I've avoided it since. People are crazy.

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Originally Posted by FrogDog

Such a necessary necro post. . .

But since we're here



This is such a disingenuous take but I'm not surprised it's gotten so many likes.

It's Halloween.

Halloween is held October 31 in Japan just as it is in the U.S., Canada, and Europe. Samhain is held on Oct. 31 - Nov. 1. Day of the Dead ranges typically Oct 31. to Nov. 2

I guess it's nice that it's coming at all this year though as Deceptus has said it could have taken the place of the Dragon Quest rerun. They could have even just reran a prior All Saints' Wake so we'd at least have the atmosphere during this dead time before the expansion. When the event actually happens in late November everyone will be busy with Endwalker and...it'll be late November which as everyone knows isn't Halloween :v)

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At this point it just seems like laziness. It’s no surprise shb has seen less content output compared to past expansions, and before anyone says anything, it was like this before covid, so let’s not use that as an excuse. Like other people have mentioned, we could’ve gotten the halloween event in place of the dragon quest one which was already run this expansion. Seems like this company just can never be held accountable for their bad actions…

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I've braved the Black Friday crowd before. There's a reason I've avoided it since. People are crazy.

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I told the HR guy I'd never work it again unless I could wear chainmail and carry an axe. He thought I was joking, until the following day, he found me in the break room working on my chainmail. As in, real stainless steel rings, woven dense enough to stop a 9mm bullet. And yes, that was tested (I had a friend in the Navy, he hung it on a tree and shot it; broke a single ring and didn't even scratch the tree). Never had to work opening on Black Friday again.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I told the HR guy I'd never work it again unless I could wear chainmail and carry an axe. He thought I was joking, until the following day, he found me in the break room working on my chainmail. As in, real stainless steel rings, woven dense enough to stop a 9mm bullet. And yes, that was tested (I had a friend in the Navy, he hung it on a tree and shot it; broke a single ring and didn't even scratch the tree). Never had to work opening on Black Friday again.

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That is glorious. I applaud your efforts.