Hamlet defense: who got curbstomped?

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Originally Posted by Rau

Gath's 1gil says that community will never do Hamlet defense (after 1.22) even though everyone has been QQing for harder content.

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Once the community realizes that some Hamlet gear is BiS they will do it :3

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Originally Posted by Jynx

It's a bit sad that you can't run with a bit more of a varied party setup, but it's still too early to say that it's unfriendly to odd-ball setups.

But it does seem War stacking is pretty prevalent in most win groups. I want to see a group go in with 4 DoM/DoW and 2 crafters/gatherers take it down or something.

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Posted in the other thread for this, we did 1 DoL, 1 DoH, 2 WHM, 3 BLM, 1 WAR and it worked out pretty well. Hopefully we can fine tune it to where we don't lose any NPCs this time.

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Originally Posted by Rau

Gath's 1gil says that community will never do Hamlet defense (after 1.22) even though everyone has been QQing for harder content.

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Shut up and nuke fool

We need to do HD!

I'm wondering if the level of your hamlet has any effect on its difficulty.

I noticed in the achievements there is one for lvl 5 hamlet and all battle classes.

I think its more for the anima you get when you win.

The difficulty is decided by the rating created during the supply phase.
Grade 2 is the highest currently.

It's not hard to beat honestly. Fun though.

For those with DoL, are you finding attack down or HP down more helpful?

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Originally Posted by Jynx

It's a bit sad that you can't run with a bit more of a varied party setup, but it's still too early to say that it's unfriendly to odd-ball setups.

But it does seem War stacking is pretty prevalent in most win groups. I want to see a group go in with 4 DoM/DoW and 2 crafters/gatherers take it down or something.

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It might be that Ridill's is still level one, but we did it twice tonight both easy wins with pick up groups.

first run:
1x pld
1x war
2x mnk
1x whm
1x brd
1x DoL
1x DoH

2nd:

2x PLD
2x war
1x whm
1x DoL
1x DoH
1x BRD

Both were about the same difficulty wise, which is to say it wasn't extremely challenging. But at least it wasn't absolutely retarded like every single dalamud event (terrible.... terrible content).

garuda is hard ... hamlet is a joke compared... did it 3 times and won 3 times

Hamlet on Gungnir was at level 2 last night when we tried it and all the groups around us were getting slaughtered. Higher supply level does mean higher difficulty. I suspect most of the people getting easy wins only had theirs at level 1.

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Originally Posted by Rau

Gath's 1gil says that community will never do Hamlet defense (after 1.22) even though everyone has been QQing for harder content.

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I dont care how hard it is, I'm a miner and I want that mining helm and I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks this way, Militia gear is decent (especially for gatherers) so people will persevere.

Also people having trouble, what is your server's supply rating, higher supply rating = harder mobs, I think 5 could be max (seeing as thats what you need for achives) I know people don't have much control over it but I bet a lvl 1 defence will be really easy, lvl 5 will need a good group to clear.

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Originally Posted by Jamison

For those with DoL, are you finding attack down or HP down more helpful?

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The feed back from the group was HP down. Sleep is really worthless since WARs and BLM's are almost always going to AoE anyways. The 3 way kink combo is also another useless one. It is really only good if your none-tanks gets an assload of hate somehow and if that is the case. The 40 seconds it will take for you to combo everyone who had hate will be dead.


Then again I did go with Insomnia and those nuts have Darklight out of their crusty black armored rear ends so survivability may not have been an issue with them and faster kills was the goal. From what I saw though the HP down is the best.

Someone keeps sneaking their E-Peen's into this thread....

any of u guys get seals for winning, cuz i only beat it once and got dark matter so im just wondering?

Lol, I spent hour mining kidney ore to make it easier, not harder. damn.

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Originally Posted by VelveShakur

Lol, I spent hour mining kidney ore to make it easier, not harder. damn.

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harder = better rewards, so make it harder = good

My party won first attempt and we won 1 anima for our efforts! We haven't been able to do it again but it really dosen't seem worth the effort.

yeah i got one win so far and was rewarded 15 anima & dark matter, but like u said if u only get some anima and maybe some gear theres kinda no point in doing hamlet defense really. i thought you would get seals for winning but im not sure yet since i only got one win, thats why i asked before. but if you did get seals for winning that be nice since thier is quite a bit of GC gear thats cool looking and good.

Won with this setup:

2xWAR, 2xBLM, 2xWHM, 1xBRD, 1xDoH

Defense buff was priority, followed by regen I believe.

Collusion BLM's as frequently as possible.

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Originally Posted by stanleyyoung

yeah i got one win so far and was rewarded 15 anima & dark matter, but like u said if u only get some anima and maybe some gear theres kinda no point in doing hamlet defense really. i thought you would get seals for winning but im not sure yet since i only got one win, thats why i asked before. but if you did get seals for winning that be nice since thier is quite a bit of GC gear thats cool looking and good.

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why did people assume youd get seals?

Hamlets were not company related

I'm pretty sure this is due to servers not preparing their hamlets properly in the DOL phase.

Also, just anima? What a rip off. I was hoping on seals. Hamlet Defence will soon be forgotten, mark my words.

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Originally Posted by stanleyyoung

yeah i got one win so far and was rewarded 15 anima & dark matter, but like u said if u only get some anima and maybe some gear theres kinda no point in doing hamlet defense really..

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Seeing as some of the gear is pretty sweet, especially the crafting and gathering stuff and anima is enough reason for me to do it.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Seeing as some of the gear is pretty sweet, especially the crafting and gathering stuff and anima is enough reason for me to do it.

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no kidding, that gear is gonna be SWEET when we eventualy start to get it

+10% hq rate....wtf lol

true if u only get anima and some milita gear and no seals at all, thier really is no effeicent way of getting seals, yes we got gc leves and escort, also tot rak/dark hold(trading in weapons) but what else is their thats a good way to get seals. And yeah open world nm's too but they got shitty drops anyways. thats why it would be nice to get decent amount of seals for a win.

The only suggestion I would make to the dev team at this stage is to remove the text from the Quartermaster NPC.

It's pretty annoying to have that text there every time when all you want to do is give in your potions.

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Originally Posted by stanleyyoung

true if u only get anima and some milita gear and no seals at all, thier really is no effeicent way of getting seals, yes we got gc leves and escort, also tot rak/dark hold(trading in weapons) but what else is their thats a good way to get seals. And yeah open world nm's too but they got shitty drops anyways. thats why it would be nice to get decent amount of seals for a win.

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Seals would be too easy to get if they give them out willy nilly lol

I think its about right, gotta work for seals I'm afraid.

Yes quartermaster text is anoying as hell.

Take my potions damnit.

be aware that doh/dols can use throwing weapons (bomb/grenade arms, firepots) if they absolutely must and also have that stun ability.

Sucks that I have to work for a few more hours...you guys are making Hamlets sound fun :D

Just went in with 5 crafters and 3 gatherers and got completely wrecked. Pretty annoying.

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

Just went in with 5 crafters and 3 gatherers and got completely wrecked. Pretty annoying.

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I was just waiting for someone to try this lol

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Originally Posted by Zaaku

I was just waiting for someone to try this lol

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Well there is a acheivment for doing it with a full group of DoL/DoH

They are fun as hell...3 pick up parties...3 wins...although my rewards have been meager at best...

Haha. We eventually went in with just me as DoL, everyone else as DoW or DoM. Won. Got darkmatter. The two days of 12 hour fishing sessions feel wasted to me.

But what can you do. It actually was fun.

it gave a good little challenge the first couple runs. there are definitely some tricks you must know to be successful and after they fix war (if they really fix war) it will get a little tougher and probably even more fun.

Level 2 Hamlet.

Won 7/10 times. DoW/M only. Anytime we used DoH DoL we lost lol. Seen ton's of DM and seen a Militia Barbut drop for us for around 17k points. 20k points or more will net you 15 anima. Not sure about 30k, I ain't pro enough.

Is this content going to be another war feast again? Saw some shouts today only wanted war, blm or whm.


color me annoyed.

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Originally Posted by Dhalmel

Is this content going to be another war feast again? Saw some shouts today only wanted war, blm or whm.


color me annoyed.

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elitists and people who think you cant win without a certain setup will do this still yes

but honestly, you dont need it AT ALL

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Fury

Level 2 Hamlet.

Won 7/10 times. DoW/M only. Anytime we used DoH DoL we lost lol. Seen ton's of DM and seen a Militia Barbut drop for us for around 17k points. 20k points or more will net you 15 anima. Not sure about 30k, I ain't pro enough.

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We have 8 kills with over 30k and got a Militia Barbut every time.

2DoL, 2DoH, 2WAR, 2WHM easy victory.... Dark Matters