Why is the Cruise Chaser mount from the Mogstation?

not a good call at all, i support mogs costumes and emotes but CC as a paid mount was kinda too much.

Putting it on Mogstation makes is less cooler than it could be, now will be just another wallet mount. Paid walls takes always the prestige of having a cool mount

Well, as it's hideous, I guess I'm not overly chuffed that I won't be getting it.

Hey SE: how about a classic blimp-style airship mount? Just one? You know, considering that this is Final Fantasy?

People sure do get weirdly entitled over cash shop mounts.

Things that go in the cash shop are planned from the start to be in the cash shop, so it doesn't make any sense to say it should have been a free mount from an achievement or whatever, they just wouldn't have made it at all if it wasn't going in the cash shop. The way Yoshi-P talks about the cash shop lady makes it sound like it's an entirely separate department that he doesn't even have much say over.

What a shame. While a cash shop in B2P+sub game is BS in the first place, especially CC is a mount that deserve to be earned in game, not bought.

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Originally Posted by Starflake

Damn, didn't know those were the only options! Coping paying 30 dollars for something already in the game for years by saying at least it ain't locked behind one game mode. It's no wonder SE gets away with it.

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It isnt, but it was the most assumed one as far as i remember so i went with it.
Cant wait to buy it later :3

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

People sure do get weirdly entitled over cash shop mounts.

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SE gets weirdly entitled over cash shop mounts too. They think they can add whatever they want there without any backlash.
And apparently they are right...

Destiny did this. Is one of the reasons I abandoned Destiny. Please don't do this here. Don't make me research for a new mmo to play.

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Originally Posted by s_Tei

Destiny did this. Is one of the reasons I abandoned Destiny. Please don't do this here. Don't make me research for a new mmo to play.

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Better start researching then.
Seeing how it's already begun I doubt that this will be the end of it.
So if it bothers you then don't stick too long so you feel like you've wasted time in FFXIV once you finally decide to leave due to it.

Not trying to be sarcastic or anything.
All I'm saying is that you shouldn't "waste" your personal time here if this is something that will make you leave a game.
As this will happen again at some point for sure.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

People sure do get weirdly entitled over cash shop mounts.

Things that go in the cash shop are planned from the start to be in the cash shop, so it doesn't make any sense to say it should have been a free mount from an achievement or whatever, they just wouldn't have made it at all if it wasn't going in the cash shop. The way Yoshi-P talks about the cash shop lady makes it sound like it's an entirely separate department that he doesn't even have much say over.

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There is an argument to be made about assets used in-game vs a 100% exclusive cash shop item.

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Originally Posted by s_Tei

Destiny did this. Is one of the reasons I abandoned Destiny. Please don't do this here. Don't make me research for a new mmo to play.

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The problem is, every MMO does this. So you have to stop playing MMOs. :)


The one thing that would help against shop mounts: don't buy them. If nobody buys them then it is dead invested money and the will stop to create them. But there are always enough shop mount andys and it is always a good investition. So you have to deal with it or stop playing.


The funny thing is, in WoW they have removed the /spit-emote from the TBC client because there is a special Weakaura (Weakauras is an UI addon) that spits on players with the shop mount. They protect the customers that give them money. And believe me, SE will do it too if giving money creates a backslash to the customers.


Cheers

Money!

If we try to reason a bit more, a new mount in the story was long overdue i had the feeling if we don't count the moonwhale in cause it's the fanfest mount.

Also if we give it through the old savage raids etc. people would have it in split seconds cause unsync. I actually would had liked it more in like pvp to make people finally play again more pvp. Together with some weapons and maybe a second pvp glamour for this expansion cause the pvp rewards we got this expansion are the real crime here.

Not to mention that they bring also the Noctis FFIV event back where you can get the car for some mgp which is a 4 seater mount. So it's not like you don't get any mounts (and especially good ones with multiple seats) only from mogstation.

They could have go with any other 2-seater mount for cash shop and I wouldn't mind, but this is the first time I feel angry seeing raid boss as a mount for $30.
Even worse when you see people in-game hopping it left and right.
It's not even feel special at all.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

They could have go with any other 2-seater mount for cash shop and I wouldn't mind, but this is the first time I feel angry seeing raid boss as a mount for $30.
Even worse when you see people in-game hopping it left and right.
It's not even feel special at all.

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Well then go raid Eden and get your 4-seater mount and feel special. Dunno what is so hard bout that.

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Originally Posted by Garnix

SE gets weirdly entitled over cash shop mounts too. They think they can add whatever they want there without any backlash.
And apparently they are right...

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They are completely right.

Well then there goes another one i wont ever have unless its 50% off... no its not alright, its nothing made only for the shop, its not the Peacock or smt, its a boss from an Raid. Sry it should have been any kind of ingame reward... how about the next mog tome even? no? oh i see only gotta devalue our Ex primal/beast tribe mounts there , nvm...

Yes im salty. If it wouldve been for a TEA tokken ok - i wouldnt have it either but still, that would fit but nooo....

you reap what you sow. people welcomed mogstation back in the days without saying a word.

remember what was the first things put in it ? oh yeah minfillia outfit and sleipnir (despite the fact that odin as a 8 man was released almost at the same time). i feel you bro (personnally i don't buy from MS because i'm paying a sub and anyway it doesn't mean more money to the dev team).

it's funny to see that there is more MS updates nowadays

Damn, seeing so many people simping over CC on Twitter is wild. Some even downright rude to others who voiced their disappointment. "stay mad", "mad because poor", like ????

Why is people like that smh.

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Originally Posted by Fatch38

you reap what you sow. people welcomed mogstation back in the days without saying a word.

remember what was the first things put in it ? oh yeah minfillia outfit and sleipnir (despite the fact that odin as a 8 man was released almost at the same time). i feel you bro (personnally i don't buy from MS because i'm paying a sub and anyway it doesn't mean more money to the dev team).

it's funny to see that there is more MS updates nowadays

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Well my wallet can support this harvest we sow and now reap(er), so i am happy with it!

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

Well then go raid Eden and get your 4-seater mount and feel special. Dunno what is so hard bout that.

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Dumb looking 4-seater from almost 2 years old raid is not special anymore, you dunno what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

Well then go raid Eden and get your 4-seater mount and feel special. Dunno what is so hard bout that.

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Comparing an ugly car to a beloved boss and probably the most demanded mount addition lol

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

Dumb looking 4-seater from almost 2 years old raid is not special anymore, you dunno what you're talking about.

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Well that is subjective and also i don't see many people running around with it so yeah believe in yourself and try to get it! Maybe then this void will be filled and you can be special again!

Otherwise if the void is too large you can always just turn into a voidsend and ride this silly eye mount, would make for sure a nice glam.

The first real blow!
I have never liked the store but CC should have been in-game for sure. It should have been a reward for TEA or rival wings because it would be so fitting to the theme, but they obviously saw the opportunity to cash in on this instead.
I am glad to see that there's some degree of backlash but there will still be people defending SE and it's annoying to see, companies are not your friend no matter the circumstance.
Additionally, we already pay for the game and a subscription; there shouldn't be more expenses than that but playing an MMO now is the playground for whales and SE and Blizzard won't back off to cash in on that.

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Originally Posted by Kozh

Damn, seeing so many people simping over CC on Twitter is wild. Some even downright rude to others who voiced their disappointment. "stay mad", "mad because poor", like ????

Why is people like that smh.

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People are so dumb. I have enough in my wallet to buy everything in the store and I am still mad about it.
Should I also buy my Ultimate clears because I have the money for it? :P

Also id really buy more stuff but so much is just a huge pass.... like if you dont wanna put the normal lanner/horse/wolf into the game by mogtome or whatever you could add that on the mogstation. Also i dont mind the Scion stuff, really, thats ok. Just then make it HQ and not... Hien.... xD


Id gladly support the game just as id love to buy all the soundtracks, but they really make it hard for me...

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

Dumb looking 4-seater from almost 2 years old raid is not special anymore, you dunno what you're talking about.

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I dont have it...so, yeah, it's still quitespecial

On another note, it makes me sad how we tear each other appart just bc some are unhappy with that and others respond with "why u mad? poor? entitled?" etc...

Its not even about adding stuff to the mogstation but the choices of what they add... stuff that was made for the Chinese marked is one thing, but literally ingame stuff... Sleipnir shouldve been in the game and a recolor in the store, but welp...


I just dont get why its so hard to do some recolors/slight reskinns and sell them...

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

Well that is subjrective and also i don't see many people running around with it.

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You answer your own question, you don't see many because objectively a lot of people think it's dumb.
Try to get it? Wtf with your assumption.
Flexing your wallet in a game is pathetic. You think you're special in a game because you got a thick wallet lmao.

This is one of those mount's i don't really care for unless it can be dyed different colors.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

You answer your own question, you don't see many because objectively a lot of people think it's dumb.
Try to get it? Wtf with your assumption.
Flexing your wallet in a game is pathetic. You think you're special in a game because you got a thick wallet lmao.

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I don't think it's about being special however.
If you want a mount to feel special, then get that ugly mount no one seems to want.
Less who got it/uses it makes it more special.
And to me it sounds that is what you're after, feeling special.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

You answer your own question, you don't see many because objectively a lot of people think it's dumb.
Try to get it? Wtf with your assumption.
Flexing your wallet in a game is pathetic. You think you're special in a game because you got a thick wallet lmao.

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Well, think what you want since that is also subjective. BUT i can now ride on a cool mecha and you don't. Or maybe you can too but then you are as bad as me.

A monster who supports a company that brought them joy and tears for years and years to come. And if you don't want to do that, it's totally alright. I just go now and flex with my cool mount and you can do...uh...whatever you do! Have a nice one!

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Well if it was a Savage reward, it would've been there since HW... And Ultimate for Alexander's been out already for a while so wasn't gonna be added in there retroactively I guess...

As for why Mogstation? I would guess because it's a 2 seater. Square seems to be really afraid of letting people have multiple seated mounts for free.

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LMAO what? Theres loads of multiple seater mounts for free.

The reason I see this as bad is because Cruise Chaser is assets from the game, made by the dev team.

A long held stance for cash shops enthusiasts is, "Stuff made for the cash shop is made by the cash shop teams, so it doesn't affect development time, and the dev team is not involved!"

Well, would you look at that. The dev team is involved. Granted, it's an old raid monster, but really, it has an 8 man rideable animation which actually has all 8 people ride it in its fight. It actually repositions them, so it already had all of the data to be a mount.

So what other really cool rideable bosses or monsters are they going to throw behind a $30 pay wall in the future? How much more content in the future is going to simultaneously be in the game while also being planned out to be in the cash shop? How much more past content is going to suddenly become available now, but only within the confines of the cash shop purchase?

I ask this as someone who has made purchases from the cash shop when I really couldn't resist having something, because I knew they would never add it in otherwise. I sought solace in that claim that the dev team wouldn't be involved in making things for the cash shop, but here we are.

It sets a bad precedent.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

The reason I see this as bad is because Cruise Chaser is assets from the game, made by the dev team.

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I think you are a little late for this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...9408/index.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...0306214844.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...681&height=511

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

So what other really cool rideable bosses or monsters are they going to throw behind a $30 pay wall in the future? How much more content in the future is going to simultaneously be in the game while also being planned out to be in the cash shop? How much more past content is going to suddenly become available now, but only within the confines of the cash shop purchase?

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Voidwalker next ;)

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Originally Posted by Duskane

I think you are a little late for this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...9408/index.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...0306214844.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...681&height=511

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And wasn't Sleipnir like one of the very first items on the shop as well?

Yeah, I don't care about the mount at all and wouldn't use it even if they gave it away for free, but I'll throw my voice in here anyway because I know this one in particular does mean a lot to a lot of people. It shouldn't be in the cash shop. It should be available in game. There really is no justification at all for only having it in the cash shop except for blatant greed.

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

Well, think what you want since that is also subjective. BUT i can now ride on a cool mecha and you don't. Or maybe you can too but then you are as bad as me.

A monster who supports a company that brought them joy and tears for years and years to come. And if you don't want to do that, it's totally alright. I just go now and flex with my cool mount and you can do...uh...whatever you do! Have a nice one!

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You think paying subs and getting EW aren't enough of a support?
As I said they can put any other mount in the game if people want to support the dev, but Cruise Chaser is a bad choice.
But I don't think you will understand because:
You didn't progging A11S for weeks or even months.
You didn't do Rival Wings.
Consider that and maybe you can understand, which I highly doubt.
And that's your problem. I said enough.

I...... want the mount....... who doesnt....... even at worst for the music....... but....... 30 dollar..... i am farming murder death fates in bozjan for months to get that motorcycle.......this kinda sadden me..... but congratz for everyone who own it, its a cool mount..... very cool

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Originally Posted by TwistedTea

Why is it not from a Savage raid or an in-game reward instead?

This is not meant to be a Mogstation evil thread but just trying to see reasons for it being in the Mogstation vs earning it in-game.

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agree

wtf square enix?

this is world of warcraft all over again

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

agree

wtf square enix?

this is world of warcraft all over again

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Not even close