Undo what has been done - split servers up.

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Originally Posted by viion

Currently we are using the high spec servers for 2.0 to try and make this stable but the server process code is still current FFXIV code so this max limit reaches before the 2.0 server code.

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Indeed, where in that statement does it say we're currently playing on the 2.0 servers? To me that statement says they have the 2.0 code running on the new servers.

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Originally Posted by viion

I didnt get it because the location is not realtime... its not where my character is now, my home nation that i picked is Uldah, not sure what that has to do with where I am in game, but oh wells, if they like the cheesey laughs.

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Why so serious. Smile, it will feel good. No-one was picking a fight. Cheer up, we all have something in common, and all want the same thing: FFXIV Success.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Indeed, where in that statement does it say we're currently playing on the 2.0 servers? To me that statement says they have the 2.0 code running on the new servers.

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Holy crap you serious? i even quoted

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Currently we are using the high spec servers for 2.0 to try and make this stable but the server process code is still current FFXIV code so this max limit reaches before the 2.0 server code.

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Everything is to do with the CODE, not the server, or the hardware, it is the Network Code that cannot handle threading properly, like they said. So the congestion is causing the server to flood out. That is 1 reason for the server crashes. The next is bugs, which they fix'd today, that is why you had a patch, IT WAS A CODE issue.

ITT: Serious jimmies getting rustled over a server crash

We are not on 2.0 servers that would require an entire reboot of the system which is 2.0. That statement says they are USING 2.0 servers right now doesn't say we are playing on them retard. That's what they are going to show off at E3 the 2.0 servers and graphics engine. It's in one of Naoki letters

I love the fact that everyone who are totally against adding a few extra servers are on random servers - however those of us on Ridill are fed up with it and want this to happen. Maybe if your server was down *once again* for the 3rd time in 48 hours due to emergency maintenance you would see the bigger picture.

Maintenance happens all the time deal with it or keep crying about 9$ and quit.

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Originally Posted by Altena

I love the fact that everyone who are totally against adding a few extra servers are on random servers - however those of us on Ridill are fed up with it and want this to happen. Maybe if your server was down *once again* for the 3rd time in 48 hours due to emergency maintenance you would see the bigger picture.

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I tried to point this out earlier, maybe its all just in our minds...

The official translation doesn't clearly state we're playing on the new server hardwares right now.

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Originally Posted by Wirritosama

We are not on 2.0 servers that would require an entire reboot of the system which is 2.0. That statement says they are USING 2.0 servers right now doesn't say we are playing on them retard. That's what they are going to show off at E3 the 2.0 servers and graphics engine. It's in one of Naoki letters

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How can you say something so stupid when its said. Require a reboot? ROFL its hardware, its no different than adding ram to your pc at home, or upgrading your CPU.

The server reboots all the time, ya know WHEN IT CRASHES or during maintenance, im sure we've had plenty of maintenances..

I was beginning to think this forum was getting smarter, then this thread just blew my mind.

They will increase specs over time, as hardware gets better, just like you upgrade your pc over time. The issue is the big jump from 1.0 to 2.0 is SERVER CODE which Yoshi says. I give up trying to explain it, learning the alphabet is harder than this....

Even the patch notes today have fix's that caused server crash lol

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Originally Posted by Akun

ITT: Serious jimmies getting rustled over a server crash

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"A server crash" on top of the other 2x maintenances and the patch downtime? Hmm so that is 20 hours (assuming ~5hrs each) that the game has been down for - not to mention the random crashes / freezes / inability to login (which has been happening ever since the patch). I am speaking for Ridill here. So basically gameplay has been interrupted for pretty much 2 full days (leading upto weekend when *everyone* is online... well... lets see how that goes).

It is not just one "server crash" it is topped with the frustration of consistent interruption of gameplay.

Show me where in that statement it says "players" or subscribers are in 2.0 servers? Oh wait you can't can you? "we" as in devs you moron. Reading comprehension 101

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Originally Posted by viion

How can you say something so stupid when its said. Require a reboot? ROFL its hardware, its no different than adding ram to your pc at home, or upgrading your CPU.

The server reboots all the time, ya know WHEN IT CRASHES or during maintenance, im sure we've had plenty of maintenances..

I was beginning to think this forum was getting smarter, then this thread just blew my mind.

They will increase specs over time, as hardware gets better, just like you upgrade your pc over time. The issue is the big jump from 1.0 to 2.0 is SERVER CODE which Yoshi says. I give up trying to explain it, learning the alphabet is harder than this....

Even the patch notes today have fix's that caused server crash lol

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forwardslashragemuch? /hug

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Originally Posted by viion

Holy crap you serious? i even quoted



Everything is to do with the CODE, not the server, or the hardware, it is the Network Code that cannot handle threading properly, like they said. So the congestion is causing the server to flood out. That is 1 reason for the server crashes. The next is bugs, which they fix'd today, that is why you had a patch, IT WAS A CODE issue.

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No point trying to tell them, they obviously can't see facts even when the Producer of the game states what they're using

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Originally Posted by Wildz

I don't know what your server is like, but Selbina/Ridill has had these issues, for as long as I know. It just so happens that there is a new secondary problem with the release of 1.22 but by no means the route cause.

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I've been playing on Ridill/Selbina since launch.. don't see these huge problems you speak of.

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Originally Posted by Altena

Ok guys, let's be reasonable here. A server merge was possibly the worst idea so far. Due to this merge we are experiencing bottlenecks in high traffic areas that everyone (including SE) are aware of - that is Ul'dah, Gridania Garuda/Ifrit/Moogle quest NPC, and now (for obvious reasons) the Garuda fight entrance by Camp Dragonhead.

I won't be the first one to say this but let's face it - the servers aren't handling this. I know it would be nearly impossible to "split" a server as such but can we possibly have an extra 2-3 servers created with the option to move to them for free? That is just one solution of many but I mean this is getting beyond ridiculous.

I would rather a slightly less populated server then a laggy, buggy, crashy server any day.

What brought this up? Well I, like others have been experiencing crashes for the previous 2-3 hours since the emergency maintanence, with the inability to log back on. I continually get the error message "An error has occured on the game server" when I attempt to - if that error doesn't come up then I recieve the "High traffic error" and that my login has been placed in a que. 10 minutes later that message goes away with the original "game server" error once more.

This is extremely frustrating. Please "split" the merged servers up.....

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Hahahahahahahahahahaaa...... you crack me up.... lol.....

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Originally Posted by Altena

"A server crash" on top of the other 2x maintenances and the patch downtime? Hmm so that is 20 hours (assuming ~5hrs each) that the game has been down for - not to mention the random crashes / freezes / inability to login (which has been happening ever since the patch). I am speaking for Ridill here. So basically gameplay has been interrupted for pretty much 2 full days (leading upto weekend when *everyone* is online... well... lets see how that goes).

It is not just one "server crash" it is topped with the frustration of consistent interruption of gameplay.

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Meh, it's no problem at all according to Wirritosama, all you have to do is quit...apparently this kind of service is totally normal for an MMO.

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Originally Posted by Wirritosama

Show me where in that statement it says "players" or subscribers are in 2.0 servers? Oh wait you can't can you? "we" as in devs you moron. Reading comprehension 101

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Oh right because it doesnt say the exact wording you want to hear, you're in denial lmao. Ok ok ok. I can see exactly where this be going if it continues.

Goodday.

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Originally Posted by Forbin

I've been playing on Ridill/Selbina since launch.. don't see these huge problems you speak of.

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Well apparently you are one of the few. * Jealous*

Ok then guys, if you think Yoshi's post has nothing to do with us being on 2.0 servers now then you tell me wtf does he mean?

ALL you have to do to swap over to newer severs is changed the bloody harddrive RAID over thats it, its a CODE issue not a hardware one, jesus christ

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Originally Posted by Wildz

Meh, it's no problem at all according to Wirritosama, all you have to do is quit...apparently this kind of service is totally normal for an MMO.

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Welcome to life, shit happens. And people wonder why they hire Mexicans and people from Taiwan, Stop crying about your first world problems.

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Originally Posted by Altena

"A server crash" on top of the other 2x maintenances and the patch downtime? Hmm so that is 20 hours (assuming ~5hrs each) that the game has been down for - not to mention the random crashes / freezes / inability to login (which has been happening ever since the patch). I am speaking for Ridill here. So basically gameplay has been interrupted for pretty much 2 full days (leading upto weekend when *everyone* is online... well... lets see how that goes).

It is not just one "server crash" it is topped with the frustration of consistent interruption of gameplay.

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the self entitlement is strong with this one.. Nothing is without hitches.. you have NO idea what it's like to be a developer of anything.. so just stop.. why not go outside.. and get out of the basement. The problems will pass, if you have ever played a SE MMO for longer than a few months, you would know this is par for the course.. Patch time = problems, huge desire to complete new content and general laggyness around specific quest points.. it just happens.. with time it will clear.. now breath and stop throwing a temper tantrum..

I've played casually off and on since the patch and have no issues...

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Originally Posted by Fear

jesus christ

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Where? O.o

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Originally Posted by Wirritosama

Welcome to life, shit happens. And people wonder why they hire Mexicans and people from Taiwan, Stop crying about your first world problems.

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What the.....

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Originally Posted by Altena

It is not just one "server crash" it is topped with the frustration of consistent interruption of gameplay.

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Its just a game. Happened a lot with XI too. Everyone arguing over what servers and coding SE is using (Because anyone crying in this thread would know) and all the crying over downtime is slightly ridiculous

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Originally Posted by Genz

The official translation doesn't clearly state we're playing on the new server hardwares right now.

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This is exactly what I got out of the quote from earlier. You didn't need to be an ass Viion.

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

We already have high-spec servers prepared for version 2.0

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Originally Posted by Fear

Ok then guys, if you think Yoshi's post has nothing to do with us being on 2.0 servers now then you tell me wtf does he mean?

ALL you have to do to swap over to newer severs is changed the bloody harddrive RAID over thats it, its a CODE issue not a hardware one, jesus christ

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I think some people think servers is like this magical force of mechanical wisdom, that requires a week to unsummon the old one, and call fourth from the skies the new hardware being that will walk into that cold server room, and so that hundreds of people can spend days upon days moving all our complex and sophisticated bytes onto the new one.

When in reality:
- Take out Hard Drive
- Walk to new Server
- Put Hard Drive in
- Happy Face

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Originally Posted by Wildz

Where? O.o

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Molly_Millions since they seem to know whats going on better than Yoshi's statement on the 2.0 server issue.

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Originally Posted by viion

I think some people think servers is like this magical force of mechanical wisdom, that requires a week to unsummon the old one, and call fourth from the skies the new hardware being that will walk into that cold server room, and so that hundreds of people can spend days upon days moving all our complex and sophisticated bytes onto the new one.

When in reality:
- Take out Hard Drive
- Walk to new Server
- Put Hard Drive in
- Happy Face

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Well not quite, sometimes you gotta reconfigure the software slightly (mostly in PCs though not servers), such as Firmware so it operates with the new equipment, which takes about 5 mins :D

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Originally Posted by Akun

Its just a game. Happened a lot with XI too. Everyone arguing over what servers and coding SE is using (Because anyone crying in this thread would know) and all the crying over downtime is slightly ridiculous

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I really can't help it, I get over emotional, I'm literally crying streams of tears while shaking in a ball, in the corner of the room, occasionally screaming 'Why! SE, Why!' :>

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

This is exactly what I got out of the quote from earlier. You didn't need to be an ass Viion.

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If you can read devs comment it means they aren't up!

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Originally Posted by Fear

Well not quite, sometimes you gotta reconfigure the software slightly (mostly in PCs though not servers), such as Firmware so it operates with the new equipment, which takes about 5 mins :D

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Yah 5 mins, and for software, their software, the 2.0 code, which is the issue, right now its on 1.0 code XD

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Originally Posted by Fear

Molly_Millions since they seem to know whats going on better than Yoshi's statement on the 2.0 server issue.

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I'm not claiming to know any better than anyone else in this thread. I just interpreted the dev post differently than you guys did.

Some people probably think Computer hardware is a magical force which takes hours to work, when infact its usually just plugging something in and switching it on :D

Once again reading comprehension 101

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Originally Posted by Fear

Some people probably think Computer hardware is a magical force which takes hours to work, when infact its usually just plugging something in and switching it on :D

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Lies, it is indeed magic.

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Originally Posted by GinTama

how about stop crowding in ul'dah

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Yeah! Lets tell players to not visit certain areas in the game!

Hell, STOP LOGGING IN! That would solve so many problems! Crowding would be fixed!

I also don't think people understand my point...

Whether the issue lies in the servers, the code, the congestion in those problematic areas - the servers/code cannot handle the current stress which is worsened by a congested area.

The only solution I can see to this which would increase playability would be reduce that congestion. Ie. Fix the "problematic" area BEFORE making an area more popular with a merge.

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Originally Posted by Wildz

Lies, it is indeed magic.

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If you wanna see magic inside your computer drag yourself along a nylon carpet then touch the motherboard :D

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Originally Posted by Altena

I also don't think people understand my point...

Whether the issue lies in the servers, the code, the congestion in those problematic areas - the servers/code cannot handle the current stress which is worsened by a congested area.

The only solution I can see to this which would increase playability would be reduce that congestion. Ie. Fix the "problematic" area BEFORE making an area more popular with a merge.

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But the issue, also can be related to bugs with the game, and have absolute zero result from congestion.

Take a look at the recent hotfix, it has 2 fixes for server crashes, there could be more bugs like these that are causing things, even stuff their side.

We had crashes even prior to merge, it isnt something that the merge spontaneously invented.