Pre patch suggestion

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Originally Posted by Endariel

The point is to launch new jobs and new races 1-2 weeks prior the actual expansion release.

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Not necessary.

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Originally Posted by Endariel

As i mentioned earlier, this will allow for players to go into endwalker with their sage / reaper lvl 80 from the get go without wasting 2-3 days while everyone else is having fun in new dungeons / zones.

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Actually a much better reason not to release them early. Initial crowds in the expansion zones will be that much thinner as those who plan to main the new jobs spend 1-2 days to level them.

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Originally Posted by Endariel

Also, let's be honest, everyone will start with early access. EA is here to justify the server instability at launch and potential major bugs that will be fixed right before the "actual" relase

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Wrong. Not everyone starts with early access. Many don't bother specifically so they can avoid the launch week congestion in the new zones.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

It would be nice to get our hands on jobs ahead of time in some capacity, to help the devs troubleshoot oversights or plain bad design.

Remember when SB launched and BLMs foul had a mana cost? lmao.

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They're going to have a month of live data for that before Savage even releases. Another two weeks is not going to make enough of a difference when they still wouldn't be able to do more than numbers tweaks until 6.1 even if there's a major flaw. Players will either avoid or flock to the problem jobs (depending on whether the job is underpowered or overpowered) while waiting for the redesign.

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Originally Posted by Gobio

Don't even remotely hint at copying WOW on how to release an expansion, EVER.

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I hope you realise that you're ranting about two allied races that were never actually released during a pre-expansion patch?
Heck, even the four initial allied races (Lightforged Draenei, Void Elves, Nightborne, and Highmountain Tauren) weren't even added in a pre-expansion patch. They were added about half a year before the pre-expansion patch.

I'll agree that it was shitty how Blizzard handled Kul Tiran & Zandalari unlocks, but it had nothing to do with their "launch practices on new races".

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

They're going to have a month of live data for that before Savage even releases. Another two weeks is not going to make enough of a difference when they still wouldn't be able to do more than numbers tweaks until 6.1 even if there's a major flaw. Players will either avoid or flock to the problem jobs (depending on whether the job is underpowered or overpowered) while waiting for the redesign.

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On top of this, the new job toolkits with the idea that they go up to level 90. Below max level is never going to be the complete experience of a Job's toolkit.

Like it or not that's how they tend to work things, so being able to play them for an extra two weeks or whatever at level 80 isn't going to be a full enough experience to give meaningful feedback.

Given that they don't like to list job changes until patch day because they want people to try it before freaking out, I doubt they'd give us jobs with 10 levels and the abilities to go with them missing.