New "grown up" faces for the new expansion please.

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Originally Posted by Styrmwyda

Note that we don't know how much time has passed during the events of ARR, HW, SB, and the events on the Source in ShB.

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I've heard that Yoshi said that all the events in ARR, HW, SB and ShB happened within the same year. So not that much time actually passed on the Source.

(I don't have an actual info source unfortunately so can't confirm for sure.)

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Could we maybe have some more grown looking faces for male Miqo'te and male Midlander Hyur? That would be nice.
Thanks for reading and have a good day.

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Well it is an asian game.
So ... umm well..

https://i.ibb.co/FH1B5WG/Gz-Pc6x1-q1...z-X8-MUSQ.webp

I see this adequately reflected in game. :D

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Originally Posted by Lumivyory

I've heard that Yoshi said that all the events in ARR, HW, SB and ShB happened within the same year. So not that much time actually passed on the Source.

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That makes absolutely -0- sense. There is no way all these events would fit into a single year.

I think they'll probably handle time progression similar to WoW, with the addons basically displaying real time.

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Originally Posted by Lonkkis

Gimme proper beards for all races and I'm happy

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Glorious bunny beards.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Well it is an asian game.
So ... umm well..

https://i.ibb.co/FH1B5WG/Gz-Pc6x1-q1...z-X8-MUSQ.webp

I see this adequately reflected in game. :D


That makes absolutely -0- sense. There is no way all these events would fit into a single year.

I think they'll probably handle time progression similar to WoW, with the addons basically displaying real time.

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It could happen in one year. honestly these events wouldn't make too much sense if you added more years to them. anything more than 2 is an eye rasier I think.

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Originally Posted by Gameovers

It could happen in one year. honestly these events wouldn't make too much sense if you added more years to them. anything more than 2 is an eye rasier I think.

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Not at all.
Do you think the restoration of Doma and Ishgard...
Establishing the Crystal Braves and training personnel, troop movements and liberation work of Doma / Ala Mhigo, research into Allagan technology on numerous occasions, political negotiations regarding Ishgards joining the city states and ending the dragon war / change of political structure... do you honestly believe these kind of things happen in a few weeks or months?

Even if the expansions are displayed in real time, considering what happens behind the scenes (most stuff the player never sees on screen but are necessary preparations/aftermath) would be pushing it quite hard.

I wouldn't mind if they added more faces like some of the NPC ones and Male miqote has a older face
its the one Chai uses
id play elezen if i could look similar to Aymeric id deal with the walk cycle

Re: story time
yeah it makes absolutely no sense but they keep saying it's only been 1 year.
Even though, as per another current thread, even if you only count all the ship travels to and from Doma of the npcs, that makes even just SB multiple years long.
Their time bubble is pretty ridicolous but they insist on it.
Imho if you count all that's going on it's been like 10 years or so. Count also all the time in between patches where npcs tell you to take time off and rest, that should count too.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Miqo apparently "stop aging" once they reach their 20's, which is why even F'lhaminn looks so young (except males when they're Nuhn I guess? too much snu snu for a lifetime lol).

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Not just when Nuhn, if you look at the RDM dude (I'm really bad at names) he also looks very old.
And I think M'nago's mother looks oldish? I can't recall for sure about that one though, so I might be wrong.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

That makes absolutely -0- sense. There is no way all these events would fit into a single year.

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Maybe it doesn't but that's how things are officially. Which explains why NPCs don't really age.

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

To allow everyone that joins the game, regardless of when they do, to experience the full story, there simply has to be a stoppage of time. Okay, not really a stoppage, but more of a time bubble in which a span of about a year is contained. This is why that for the duration of 1.0, Eorzea was in a perpetual 1572.

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We can still speculate on how long it could have been I suppose but I doubt there would be an official info on that since to them it's still 1577.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

As for Thancred, remember that he spent 5 years on the first, rather the 1 the twins spent there, so that's how he aged more, plus something something about not being able to rely on aether to keep looking younger. But yeah, I also agree he suddenly looks much older than he should be.

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Time spent in the First is irrelevant to their physical ages because they're not in their bodies, which remain in the Source and subject to the normal flow of time in the story.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

They age 1/10th to 1/5th slower.
That quote was pulled from the Encyclopaedia Eorzea, which I literally pulled out to check before making my post.
At the most generous (1/5th slower) this means that when a Hyur is 50, a Elezen born the same day will effectively be 40.
Someone aging 1/5th slower than another will make next to no difference at Alisae and Alphinaud's age.

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1/5th slower puts them at about age 13 instead of 16.

Also if you're checking from the lorebook, it also specifically states that they hit their growth spurt around age 20.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Getting back to the topic at hand, you're looking at age from a human standpoint. You can easily make a hyur who bridges the gap between the young adult and senior faces. As for the other races, F'lhaminn is 37 and uses a face that players have access to so it seems like female miqo'te don't age the same way humans do, or she learned some alchemical tricks from her boyfriend.

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I don't see a reason to assume that (and especially that Miqo'te age strangely) just because she looks young. Just because you can interpret the faces as being under 20 doesn't mean that you can't accept the character being older than that. 37 isn't so old that someone can't still be young-looking.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

The funny thing is that many of the ages are...let's say, protected by lore, even if the time bubble wasn't there:

Alphy and Alie are Elezen, they age much slower cuz they live like hundreds of years or something.
Miqo apparently "stop aging" once they reach their 20's, which is why even F'lhaminn looks so young (except males when they're Nuhn I guess? too much snu snu for a lifetime lol).
Thancred is an archon, and because of his tattoo thingy he had prolonged youth, and personally, because he ditched the scruffy SB look he actually looks younger now.

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You've been misinformed.

The thread has already covered that Elezen only live slightly longer than other races, not "hundreds of years". And there's no real reason to assume that Miqo'te stop aging, outside of reading too much into character models and possibly the statement from Y'shtola's profile saying her age is "ever stopped at 23" which seems to be a fancy way of saying "she looks young" - particularly in conjunction with the suggestion that the Archons have a spell for keeping themselves looking younger. She's probably around the same age as Thancred.

Thancred's "aging" coincided with both the loss of his magic ability and several months stranded in the wilderness.

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Originally Posted by Lumivyory

I've heard that Yoshi said that all the events in ARR, HW, SB and ShB happened within the same year. So not that much time actually passed on the Source.

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That's just the time bubble logic. If you count up all the things that happen, really they can't possibly happen in a year - but the writers have made it a rule that they are not "counting time" or allowing it to move forward. By the calendar, all the events have happened in one incredibly long year that just keeps stretching out to fit more time.

It's always five years since the Calamity. The twins are always aged 16 and will never get to maturity.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

It's always five years since the Calamity. The twins are always aged 16 and will never get to maturity.

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Which is just lazy design on their part because heaven forbid that a game in 2021 displays lasting changes in the game world.

When I started I wanted to play an old woman who's main profession is a cook and who is saving the world on the side. Unfortunately unlike men, there are no old women faces for any race...

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Time spent in the First is irrelevant to their physical ages because they're not in their bodies, which remain in the Source and subject to the normal flow of time in the story.

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Indeed, but we've seen Thancred on the First for the whole expansion and only lately back on the source and not much, so when people talk about Thancred's change of looks I assume they talk about the first.
I honestly can't recall if he gets back to looking younger when back on the source.

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Originally Posted by Erendis

When I started I wanted to play an old woman who's main profession is a cook and who is saving the world on the side. Unfortunately unlike men, there are no old women faces for any race...

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My main tank on ESO is an elderly nord woman who wields a broom and a frying pan. It's such a fun space to play in!

I always thought it was funny that male characters have a lot of faces where they look really old, while all female faces look young. I'd love to have the old lady elezen face type!

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Originally Posted by Missbone

Sorry but no, if you don't like the design of the Characters you should maybe try another game. There are enough other games and mmos with adult appearance and faces already on the market.

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I don't think the OP is asking for something unreasonable. If we have young AND old faces options, what's wrong with at least one more that is in-between? The game really needs more diversity in the character creation options, most if the races have just 4 faces and the lack of sliders in this game makes everyone pretty much identical. It needs more faces and more independent options (e.g. horns separated from heads). The only thing XIV has in abundance is hairstyle options.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I don't think the OP is asking for something unreasonable. If we have young AND old faces options, what's wrong with at least one more that is in-between? The game really needs more diversity in the character creation options, most if the races have just 4 faces and the lack of sliders in this game makes everyone pretty much identical. It needs more faces and more independent options (e.g. horns separated from heads). The only thing XIV has in abundance is hairstyle options.

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I think we're due to an expansion of customization. More face markings and better makeup options to name a few.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

I think we're due to an expansion of customization. More face markings and better makeup options to name a few.

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Completely! Just separating what we have right now would add a bunch. Plus there are some really weird arbitrary limitations. For example, Miqo male face 04 is forced to always have the eye side tattoo, while the face 01 has the SAME tattoo, but toggleable. It would be cool if we could stack 02 face paint options as well, for example. Also, dunno why the muscle tone slider isn't available for everyone out there.

As for actual additions, stuff like:
- At least 2 new face options for everyone;
- New horns and tails;
- We have Light and Dark pallettes to the Face Paint and Lip Color menus, but they are either too faint, or too dark. Would me nice if we have a third "Vibrant" option;
- Of course this is already beaten to a mulch but all the Viera and Hrothgar customization issues.

(⋟ ﹏ ⋞) The young guys we have now are so *⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* kawaii~~ *⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂*

(っ∩_∩)っI stan the K-pop style look!! ☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆

Older men aren't as kawaii... but more choice is always good!! ☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Completely! Just separating what we have right now would add a bunch. Plus there are some really weird arbitrary limitations. For example, Miqo male face 04 is forced to always have the eye side tattoo, while the face 01 has the SAME tattoo, but toggleable. It would be cool if we could stack 02 face paint options as well, for example. Also, dunno why the muscle tone slider isn't available for everyone out there.

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Don't forget aura having faces and horns linked

who really wants to play an adult charater faces when their an adult in real life...sounds boring to me

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Originally Posted by eternalsnow627

who really wants to play an adult charater faces when their an adult in real life...sounds boring to me

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Pink catgirl speaks

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Originally Posted by eternalsnow627

who really wants to play an adult charater faces when their an adult in real life...sounds boring to me

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I like playing all kinds of characters. It's also kind of yawwwn seeing the sameface cat girl in town all of the time. We're in need of new customization across the board.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

If we have young AND old faces options, what's wrong with at least one more that is in-between?

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There is no in-between!

https://i.gyazo.com/c5acf5bc13b0b470...6b9f6a15e9.jpg

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Completely! Just separating what we have right now would add a bunch. Plus there are some really weird arbitrary limitations. For example, Miqo male face 04 is forced to always have the eye side tattoo, while the face 01 has the SAME tattoo, but toggleable. It would be cool if we could stack 02 face paint options as well, for example. Also, dunno why the muscle tone slider isn't available for everyone out there.

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It's because the character creator runs on the same template for everyone but different things go in the same spaces on the templates.

The races that get muscle tone control (Hyur and Roegadyn) are the two without ear- or tail-length sliders.

Everyone only gets two racial tattoo options - except for Wildwood Elezen who have ear cuffs and Au Ra who have the glowing eye "limbal rings" in the same template space. Miqo'te face #4 loses control over the eye markings but adds nose markings. (Likewise the "other features" section always has five choices, so while both Miqo'te clans generally have the same customisation features, Keepers lose one option to be replaced with a clan-specific forehead gem.)

For what it's worth, I read the eye markings as natural skin markings that must develop as the person ages, since it happens across all cultures and (from memory) it's only optional for the youngest-looking face, plus the "tattoos" look more like face paint to me - so could read it either as the character maybe not being old enough to have the markings yet, and possibly painting them on instead to look older.

I also think the eye markings look better in that darkened-skintone colour than in a stand-out colour, so I'm glad of it being built into face #4 as I use that with a brown-skinned character and (on experimenting to see if I could get the cheek stripe tattoos to the same colour) I could not get anything close to that colour in the palette. I made them contrast instead, but I wouldn't have wanted that on the eyes.

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Originally Posted by BeautyAstrologian

(⋟ ﹏ ⋞) The young guys we have now are so *⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* kawaii~~ *⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂*

(っ∩_∩)っI stan the K-pop style look!! ☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆

Older men aren't as kawaii... but more choice is always good!! ☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆.。.:*・°☆

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Why do you type like this?

How do they type like that? Their KB made out of candy or something?

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Why do you type like this?

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It's very... uh... "anime-chic"...

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

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The current theory is that TitanMen has made his return, just not in a way we'd expect. Arguably worse for wear this time, if true. It would seem the last ban truly broke his mind.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

The current theory is that TitanMen has made his return, just not in a way we'd expect. Arguably worse for wear this time, if true. It would seem the last ban truly broke his mind.

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Lol! Please, a person isn't supposed to laugh this hard!

Oh right, faces, this is face thread, faces uh.. Sure yeah, we could always use more faces, 30 year old face yeah, yeah cool. Old man face, nah. The old man faces we have are hideously ugly too, they couldn't even make them look good. Like distinguished I mean.

I'd like to see more interesting scar options. All we have now are a few scratches on some races. Give us a ragged-edged tear, or a Zuko burn mark, or damaged horns and notched ears.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

The current theory is that TitanMen has made his return, just not in a way we'd expect.

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Wait, why do we think this character is TitanMen?

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Originally Posted by Missbone

Sorry but no, if you don't like the design of the Characters you should maybe try another game. There are enough other games and mmos with adult appearance and faces already on the market.

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I am really sorry but your Opinion makes no sense to me. Why should i play a different game when i like a lot of things in FFXIV? I am trying to politely ask for more mature male face-options. I am sure there are some things you dont like or could be better in your opinion, that doesnt mean you have to play something else.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Wait, why do we think this character is TitanMen?

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Creating multiple threads at a time all using the same type of language. Also chiming into random threads using said language which is already word vomit. The telltale signs are there, just to a different tune.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Creating multiple threads at a time all using the same type of language. Also chiming into random threads using said language which is already word vomit. The telltale signs are there, just to a different tune.

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I don't usually chime in, but check lodestone. There you can see some familiar faces in the FC. Not really hiding anything.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Could we maybe have some more grown looking faces for male Miqo'te and male Midlander Hyur? That would be nice.

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Miqote males and Middie Males both have a mature face option.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

Uh, barely legal?
I don't know about you, but I'm close to 40s and I wouldn't say I look older than PCs. I could say the same for most people I know in 30s and 40s.
If those looks are of teenagers for you, I think people you see around either have too many kids or do too many drugs.

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I'm close to 30 and look older than the PCs. I also have friends that looked older when we were still in our early 20s. So..
Plus there's nothing wrong with more face customization. It's not like op is asking for an elderly face option.

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Originally Posted by Kozh

It's not like op is asking for an elderly face option.

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Which I would use.

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Originally Posted by Kozh

I'm close to 30 and look older than the PCs. I also have friends that looked older when we were still in our early 20s. So..
Plus there's nothing wrong with more face customization. It's not like op is asking for an elderly face option.

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I'm 27 and think I rather look like au ra face 4. They are also cartoon faces and not at all a realistic reflection of reality. That being said, bring us the elderly faces. Grandma Mallory must exist in Eorzea as well as Nirn!!!

The real question no one is asking is why can't we customize to look like Matoya.

Agree with the OP

The lack of facial hair styles is proof of this....

Puberty......