Just copy the Transmog collector system from WoW. Glamour needs a serious update!!!

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Originally Posted by Garnix

A revamp of the glam system is probably one of the most requested feature, they can push it to the side as much as they want because of the complexity of the task, but the truth is : it will always be brought back to their attention until they do something about it.

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It is possible that they are already working on it.
The current system is awkward at best (especially the absurd "can't apply plates here" restriction, that renders it useless 80% of the time), I'm sure they are aware of it's shortcomings.

That being said: until they have an Idea on how to pull it off, I don't think they will give any insight or even acknowledge that they are working on it.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

It is possible that they are already working on it.
The current system is awkward at best (especially the absurd "can't apply plates here" restriction, that renders it useless 80% of the time), I'm sure they are aware of it's shortcomings.

That being said: until they have an Idea on how to pull it off, I don't think they will give any insight or even acknowledge that they are working on it.

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Absolutely! I would hope they learned from their past mistakes and don't announce stuff that they never deliver. (RIP Egi Glam)

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Maybe SE doesn't want us to collect and hoard glamour.

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If they didn't want that they wouldn't be adding more with each patch. :p

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Sure, if you are ready to go 4-5 years w/o any new patches or content, they can do that. :D

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Not necessarily, they can develop a new online game that would serve as FFXIV's remake or continuation, same game but future-proof.



We wouldn't miss a single patch but would have the certainty that there was a new online game in development instead of resources going to XVI.

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Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

Not necessarily, they can develop a new online game that would serve as FFXIV's remake or continuation, same game but future-proof.



We wouldn't miss a single patch but would have the certainty that there was a new online game in development instead of resources going to XVI.

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This simply will not happen I'm afraid. FFXIV was already remade once due to an exceptional circumstance (FFXIV 1.0's complete and utter failure and the huge hit to both SE and the FF series's reputation in general it caused) which is no longer a problem. FFXIV ARR is FFXIV-2 (it was literally called 'FFXIV version 2.0' in it's early concepts), and successive expansions have only raised the game's 'version' number up to currently version 5.0.

FFXIV ARR is making a consistant profit for SE and Shadowbringers has been universally lauded as the best expansion for the game yet. SE simply are not going to throw an enormous amount of development resources into the gamble of creating a 'new' version of the game simply to have fancier graphics (even more so given Yoshi's past attitude towards this subject, stating that it was an obsession with high-end graphic fidelity at the expense of everything else being a fundamental problem SE has long had, and which was a major cause of FFXIV's 1.0's failure - "the graphics disease" as I understand he termed it in an interview back in 2012/13ish.).

And lets face it, MMOs' day in the sun has since passed and are no longer considered the 'in-thing' in gaming like they were in the Noughties. No longer are developers obsessed with trying to create a 'WoW-killer' like they were in the late 2000s/first half of the 2010s, as the idea of trying to 'kill' WoW was laughable anyway (although FFXIV ARR did somewhat succeed in giving WoW a bloody nose, a split lip and two black eyes at least). Battle-royale type games like Fortnite, augmented reality/VR games or more asscessible open-world games are considered the current fad for gaming and thus developers like SE will naturally more focus on those styles of games rather than another MMO which cost huge amounts to develop, often don't succeed in at least breaking even on the investment if that, and tend to die a year after birth more often than not.

In a world battling with a global once-in-a-century pandemic and the resulting financial recession it's caused, developers are even more reluctant to spare the cash on uncertain gambles like a new MMO, especially a new version of one that is still making enormous amounts of money and paying for itself several times over in it's present form. In the current climate at least, SE simply are not going to create a 'new FFXIV' or 'new FF MMO', I can pretty much say with conviction for the foreseable future at least, FFXIV and it's predecessor FFXI will sadly remain the only MMORPGs in the FF series.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

FFXIV ARR is making a consistant profit for SE and Shadowbringers has been universally lauded as the best expansion for the game yet. SE simply are not going to throw an enormous amount of development resources into the gamble of creating a 'new' version of the game simply to have fancier graphics (even more so given Yoshi's past attitude towards this subject, stating that it was an obsession with high-end graphic fidelity at the expense of everything else being a fundamental problem SE has long had, and which was a major cause of FFXIV's 1.0's failure - "the graphics disease" as I understand he termed it in an interview back in 2012/13ish.).

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Well he has my support. While I do wish for sharper textures, I think the gfx as such are fine. Pretty good even for an MMO.
I'd rather have more fun gameplay than more shinies.

Adding to Enkidoh's post - sure, they theoretically could rebuild the game to iron out all the little frustrations like inventory and glamour restrictions, but it's very unlikely to be worth their while.

It would have to net them enough additional subs, or the retention of enough players that would have quit over those issues rather than stayed around feeling slightly unhappy about them, to justify the cost of rebuilding the game from scratch AND forgoing the hypothetical money they could have earned by putting that effort into making and selling a new unrelated game while leaving FFXIV as it is.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

I'm pretty certain this has been asked countless times in the past already and SE has consistantly shot it down stating how gear appearence is coded outright prevents such a system from being implemented (the glamour dresser system is the closest you'll get and even that uses a workaround). The citation for this eludes me at the moment though.

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And it was most definitely similar issues for WoW... Until they decided to actually resolve it. Fixing a proper glamour log should have been higher on their priority because the repeated inventory issues appearing without it only makes the game discouraging to play. Not very fun logging on thinking "What piece of gear do i delete today!"

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Except they told us they had problems implementing the glamour dresser, and some of those problems are why we're never going to see a housing version of it despite their original intent to add one.

I don't think those problems necessarily rule out something closer to transmog, though.

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The glamour dresser is literally just an "bank" with an item filter.

They'd probably need a team thats familiar with the engine ffxiv is on, so I'm secretly wishing that once a big se project wraps up they can poach staff to outsource a transmog system to. That way the xiv devs dont have to halt whatever else theyre doing.

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Originally Posted by tdb

I'm around 300/400 I think, but every now and then I want to use a piece which is actually current gear for me. Then I have to either save the glamour as incomplete and let that item have its normal appearance, or acquire a duplicate of the item. So yeah, I would be all for a Blizzard-style glamour system.

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FWIW, you can put an item in the glamour dresser, set up a glamour plate, then remove the item from the dresser. The glamour plate will still remain. I've done this to use a piece of current gear in a glamour; my alt is wearing the Exarchic fending set, and though I have changed the glamour on the boots and gloves, the coat and pants are using their own appearance. But I didn't want to look to break when replacing things, so the coat and pants were thrown into the dresser, used to make the plate, then taken out and equipped again.

The one downside is that you have this weird situation where the item shows as glamoured into itself, but that's fairly minor.

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

The one downside is that you have this weird situation where the item shows as glamoured into itself, but that's fairly minor.

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The other downside is this can eat up a large number of glamour prisms if you do it long enough (based on how frequently you swap glamours of course).

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Originally Posted by ItMe

The other downside is this can eat up a large number of glamour prisms if you do it long enough (based on how frequently you swap glamours of course).

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No more (and almost certainly less) than you'd spend on dispellers to remove a different glamour from it every time you wanted the original appearance back. Doubly so if you want it dyed.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

No more (and almost certainly less) than you'd spend on dispellers to remove a different glamour from it every time you wanted the original appearance back. Doubly so if you want it dyed.

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Lol fair ; )

I'm not sure what WoW's glamor system and trans moogles have to do with each other.

Why you got to necro with a joke...

Either way if they can't implement a proper log because reasons, then they could at least use their achievement system to make us present the items to someone, maybe a quest to get an achievement containing a coffer of the same items, which then can be purchased by the calamity salvager.

This would have been especially welcome for Alliance raids and other content where there is no guaranteed that a piece of loot will drop.

Can we please not credit WoW for convenient fashion management, when Guild Wars 2 has been doing it even better since 2014? Just saying.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Can we please not credit WoW for convenient fashion management, when Guild Wars 2 has been doing it even better since 2014? Just saying.

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5 month old necro by a known troll. You've been baited. lol

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

Why you got to necro with a joke...

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That was a joke? I guess I forgot to laugh.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

How closely do you want it to mirror the transmog system? With transmog, it's just the appearance that is stored and not an actual item. That works fine for WoW because there's few items worth keeping once you get an upgrade for your class.

Would you be okay if the glamour dresser worked the same way? That would mean losing it as storage for items you might want to equip later, perhaps because you're leveling a new job in the same role.

Personally, I'd be fine with just the appearance getting stored (most items are easy enough to obtain again if needed) but I'm not certain the general player base would agree.

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On the other hand, do we need to keep physical copies of lvl 0-30 items if everything you have is above 30? These low-level physical items likely cause bloat, many cross-job/global outfits are level 0 with no stats.

I've been saying that they should offer to buy the tech for a while.

Knowing what magic was done to prevent the multiple hundred items from overwhelming might let them further refine data delivery for other large invintories, letting us have more decorations in homes and yards.

If copying WoW's glamour system can't be done, then as an alternative they should relax the restrictions, particularly with having multiple sets of different types that look almost the same, save for a few color differences or bits and pieces. Here's something I suggested a while back:

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Originally Posted by Feronar

I would like glamour restrictions on some gear to be relaxed. For example many gear sets released as a group look very similar, and keeping them for glamour takes up an excessive amount of space if you play multiple jobs. Here is what I propose:

For left-column gear (Head, chest, hands, legs, feet):
Fending, Maiming, Striking, Scouting, and Aiming gear can be displayed by all Disciple of War jobs and classes.
Healing and Casting gear can be displayed by all Disciple of Magic jobs and classes.
Crafting and Gathering gear can be displayed by all Disciple of the Hand and Disciple of the Land classes.
Class/job specific gear (I.e. rewards from completing class/job quest lines) remains restricted to its given class/job.

For right-column gear (Earring, necklace, bracer, rings):
All gear can be displayed regardless of class or job.

For weapons and off-hands:
All restrictions remain as they currently are.

Here's a mockup tooltip I made (Note the change to class/job restrictions, directly under ITEM LEVEL 510):
https://i.imgur.com/fBBeArt.png

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

yes please ;-;

also mythic plus dungeons

dungeons in this game are useless

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No, leave M+ in wow.

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Originally Posted by Feronar

If copying WoW's glamour system can't be done, then as an alternative they should relax the restrictions, particularly with having multiple sets of different types that look almost the same, save for a few color differences or bits and pieces. Here's something I suggested a while back:

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I don't follow...
How does giving us more glamour options address our space issues? I feel like it would do the opposite.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Can we please not credit WoW for convenient fashion management, when Guild Wars 2 has been doing it even better since 2014? Just saying.

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Can we not credit convenient fashion management when Rift was doing it long before GW2? The WoW transmog system is actually a copy and paste feature from Rift. Want to laugh? I remember them saying they would NEVER do a transmog system in WoW because it would water down the RPG elements of the game.

After Rift added like 900k subs in the first month they magically changed their minds on that.

WoW's system is basically s list of item IDs that you've collected. It's no different than keeping them all in your bank/bags, and in a way it's easier because there's no enchantment or gem data attached.

It's really not difficult to do, yet they can't seem to figure it out.

Then they go and make dungeon sets and crafted sets and mogstation gear and wonder why folks want more space.

Eh, I think SWTOR has the best glamour system. You find a piece of gear, and you can add it to your appearance with no hassle or hoops to jump through. You can do it anywhere in the world while doing anything and equipping a new piece of gear will not override your current look.

When I played WoW I still had to break out my Grand Expedition Yak to talk to the transmog NPC and equipping a new piece of gear still overrode my current look.

In SWTOR, there's none of that. You have different tabs on your character profile to save different looks. Just make whatever look you want and keep on doing whatever it was you were doing. Don't have to have prism or talk to a portable NPC or anything. It's quick, painless and super convenient.