So no christmas event then?

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

This part of the live letter for anyone curious.

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I normally don't get excited for Christmas anything, but that mount...I NEED IT!

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

"Disparaging" troll post? It was a lighthearted joke, you people need to understand the difference. Jesus Christ this community.

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How were readers to know you were joking? There is no tone of voice, additional comment or other context to let us know it's supposed to be one. It'sa standard type of statement made by doomsayers who claim a game is dying.

Just add a /s to the end next time to avoid misunderstandings.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

How were readers to know you were joking? There is no tone of voice, additional comment or other context to let us know it's supposed to be one. It'sa standard type of statement made by doomsayers who claim a game is dying.

Just add a /s to the end next time to avoid misunderstandings.

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Or how about people get some reading comprehension? Also, to stop taking everything as an attack? I put a smiley at the end, apparently that isn't even enough anymore for people to understand sarcasm.

If anyone thought I was "doomsaying", they are projecting.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Or how about people get some reading comprehension? Also, to stop taking everything as an attack? I put a smiley at the end, apparently that isn't even enough anymore for people to understand sarcasm.

If anyone thought I was "doomsaying", they are projecting.

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How about just saying what you mean instead of expecting people who don't know you to guess your mind? If someone isn't a member of your personal circle of friends, they're unlikely to know when you're being sarcastic and when you're not unless you clearly state you're being sarcastic.

You want reading comprehension? Let's go for it.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Is anyone going to be actually even playing this game in a week though? :D

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That's all you gave us to work. It was a random insertion into a discussion about Starlight Celebration so we can't use the discussion for context outside of FFXIV being the game you're referring to.

You used the word "though" at the end of the question, which indicates doubt. Adding "actually even" into the question indicates the doubt is fairly strong.

You strongly doubt anyone will be playing the game in a week and are asking others if they agree.

The "Big Grin" emoji - happiness, excitement, anticipation, gloating, different people use it in different ways.

So are you happy you there may not be people playing the game next week?
Excited about that possibility?
Anticipating that possibility?
Gloating over that possibility?

All those possible uses of "Big Grin" give your statement of doubt the appearance of an attack on the game, especially since forum users saying "no one will be playing this game in a week" and similar things has practically become an idiom within the gaming community for "this game sucks and I hope it dies".

You're the first person I've met who claims the "Big Grin" emoji indicates sarcasm. You would have been better off using the "Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" emoji though in this case it might still have been misinterpreted.

If you had just said what you meant instead of assuming strangers on the internet would automatically know you were being sarcastic, it would have avoided the misunderstanding. Saying "People will be playing this game next week" would have still been out of context for the discussion, but no one would have interpreted it as an attack.

There's no one projecting their own "doomsayer" feelings here, just some posters assuming (understandably but evidently incorrectly) that you meant the game is failing then expressing their disagreement.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

How about just saying what you mean instead of expecting people who don't know you to guess your mind? If someone isn't a member of your personal circle of friends, they're unlikely to know when you're being sarcastic and when you're not unless you clearly state you're being sarcastic.

You want reading comprehension? Let's go for it.



That's all you gave us to work. It was a random insertion into a discussion about Starlight Celebration so we can't use the discussion for context outside of FFXIV being the game you're referring to.

You used the word "though" at the end of the question, which indicates doubt. Adding "actually even" into the question indicates the doubt is fairly strong.

You strongly doubt anyone will be playing the game in a week and are asking others if they agree.

The "Big Grin" emoji - happiness, excitement, anticipation, gloating, different people use it in different ways.

So are you happy you there may not be people playing the game next week?
Excited about that possibility?
Anticipating that possibility?
Gloating over that possibility?

All those possible uses of "Big Grin" give your statement of doubt the appearance of an attack on the game, especially since forum users saying "no one will be playing this game in a week" and similar things has practically become an idiom within the gaming community for "this game sucks and I hope it dies".

You're the first person I've met who claims the "Big Grin" emoji indicates sarcasm. You would have been better off using the "Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" emoji though in this case it might still have been misinterpreted.

If you had just said what you meant instead of assuming strangers on the internet would automatically know you were being sarcastic, it would have avoided the misunderstanding. Saying "People will be playing this game next week" would have still been out of context for the discussion, but no one would have interpreted it as an attack.

There's no one projecting their own "doomsayer" feelings here, just some posters assuming (understandably but evidently incorrectly) that you meant the game is failing then expressing their disagreement.

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I'm not in this person's circle of friends and found it easy to see that he is saying no one will be playing FFXIV next week because of the most anticipated game in the history of mankind is releasing. Its obviously a joke. I don't know how you interpreted that as him saying this game sucks or is dead lol. I would also advocate for SE to delete all jobs but Samurai for the next week in order to celebrate this release.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

I'm not in this person's circle of friends and found it easy to see that he is saying no one will be playing FFXIV next week because of the most anticipated game in the history of mankind is releasing. Its obviously a joke. I don't know how you interpreted that as him saying this game sucks or is dead lol. I would also advocate for SE to delete all jobs but Samurai for the next week in order to celebrate this release.

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You could interpret that post in more then one way, so id say im closer to Jojo then you on this. When I read the post in question i thought it was side-eyeing the new patch content that will release next week. And the only reason i even know what "most anticipated" game youre talking about is because others a page or two ago said which one it is.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

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:confused: My God.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

I'm not in this person's circle of friends and found it easy to see that he is saying no one will be playing FFXIV next week because of the most anticipated game in the history of mankind is releasing. Its obviously a joke. I don't know how you interpreted that as him saying this game sucks or is dead lol.

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Yeah, and not only that it's a single player game, but I guess I am "doomsaying". Apparently my joke warranted a reply so large I had to remove their quote.

I might as well make it plain for some people here: Cyberpunk is a single player rpg, FFXIV is an ongoing mmorpg. People won't be quitting the game permanently to play Cyberpunk. The Christmas events in this game generally last from the middle of the month to the new year, most players will probably have gotten a playthrough out of Cyberpunk and come right back to this game and do the Christmas event. For that matter people, the Christmas (holiday) events usually don't take that long to do. "Doomsaying", right. People need to exercise some critical thinking.

Just because some people can't pick up on humour it doesn't mean that every last little comment needs to be picked apart or explained in-depth. Then again, I can't claim to be surprised that elements of the FFXIV community are both unable to detect humour/sarcasm and are isolated enough to not be aware of major upcoming video-game releases!

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Originally Posted by Lufir

I'm not in this person's circle of friends and found it easy to see that he is saying no one will be playing FFXIV next week because of the most anticipated game in the history of mankind is releasing. Its obviously a joke. I don't know how you interpreted that as him saying this game sucks or is dead lol. I would also advocate for SE to delete all jobs but Samurai for the next week in order to celebrate this release.

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I, personally, don't have any idea what this "most anticipated game" could be, so that 'joke' fell particularly flat.

Next Tuesday is the release of Patch 5.4. Intimating that no one would be playing it in a week is, in that context, disparaging at the least.

The post came off as "who cares about the Starlight Celebration? There aren't going to be players next week, so why bother?"

Not the intention of the poster, by their own words. After the fact.

Yoshi-P has even urged people to play other games in official interviews and talks about them himself in passing. So if some of you only want to play FFXIV and nothing else? Fine - but it's not the intended method of consumption and the game certainly isn't designed to allow for that ordinarily.

I've never played Among Us, yet I've heard of it because of the recent explosion in the game's popularity. I'm inclined to think some of the lack of knowledge of Cyberpunk might even be feigned in some cases.

Quoting Theodric, because he makes the point perfectly.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Just because some people can't pick up on humour it doesn't mean that every last little comment needs to be picked apart or explained in-depth. Then again, I can't claim to be surprised that elements of the FFXIV community are both unable to detect humour/sarcasm and are isolated enough to not be aware of major upcoming video-game releases!

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

I, personally, don't have any idea what this "most anticipated game" could be, so that 'joke' fell particularly flat.

Next Tuesday is the release of Patch 5.4. Intimating that no one would be playing it in a week is, in that context, disparaging at the least.

The post came off as "who cares about the Starlight Celebration? There aren't going to be players next week, so why bother?"

Not the intention of the poster, by their own words. After the fact.

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I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that Cyberpunk 2077 was obscure, a niche release. I had the impression it is, and has been one of the most hyped products in gaming history. Seriously though, a lot of people won't be playing the patch - inititially - because of Cyberpunk. This in no way means the game is dying. SE just happens to have a release date ONE DAY before potentially the most anticipated game release in gaming history.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Yoshi-P has even urged people to play other games in official interviews and talks about them himself in passing. So if some of you only want to play FFXIV and nothing else? Fine - but it's not the intended method of consumption and the game certainly isn't designed to allow for that ordinarily.

I've never played Among Us, yet I've heard of it because of the recent explosion in the game's popularity. I'm inclined to think some of the lack of knowledge of Cyberpunk might even be feigned in some cases.

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I refuse to believe that even the FFXIV community is so sheltered they don't know about the release of Cyberpunk. Many of them play via Steam, where it has been heavily advertised, where it will be heavily advertised very soon, and where it is currently the GLOBAL top seller.

Of all the games being released Cyberpunk 2077 is one of them.

I don't follow the Gaming Industry News, religiously or profanely.

Release dates aren't part of my daily Internet feed.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

I don't follow the Gaming Industry News, religiously or profanely.

Release dates aren't part of my daily Internet feed.

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Even if you didn't I'm surprised you haven't somehow heard about the game being delayed three times this last time causing a bit of an uproar by many a fan. Along with others who got angry at CDPR and any crunch culture they might have while working on the game or how everyone was shocked at Keanu being part of the game.

I might not have watched any of the Mandelorian but I do know who baby yoda is. Heck I even somehow know that they have a name now. Yet I don't know what that is.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

I don't follow the Gaming Industry News, religiously or profanely.

Release dates aren't part of my daily Internet feed.

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Even if you didn't I'm surprised you haven't somehow heard about the game being delayed three times this last time causing a bit of an uproar by many a fan. Along with others who got angry at CDPR and any crunch culture they might have while working on the game or how everyone was shocked at Keanu being part of the game.

I might not have watched any of the Mandelorian but I do know who baby yoda is. Heck I even somehow know that they have a name now. Yet I don't know what that is.

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Apparently nobody knows about Cyberpunk!

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Release dates aren't part of my daily Internet feed.

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You don't have a Twitter, Youtube or Tumblr account or anything like that? If so, nobody you follow has mentioned the game at all?

I don't have any of those (well, I have a Twitter account, but all I use it for is screenshots, and I don't actually follow anyone), and I've heard of it. I'm indifferent to it, but I have heard of it.

Eh, Cyberpunk isn't a game I play and didn't really know about it until I saw an ad for it on I think twitch just recently... the one with Keanu Reeves in it... and my cousin is hyped about it (he is torn between wanting both valhalla and 2077 but cant afford both)... lol I really didn't even know about AC Valhalla until I got my PS5 (and i actually love the assassins creed games)... some of us do live under a rock ya know. ^_^

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Originally Posted by Theodric

You don't have a Twitter, Youtube or Tumblr account or anything like that? If so, nobody you follow has mentioned the game at all?

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A couple of members of my FC have mentioned the game in the Other Games channel of our FC Discord. They've said they plan to play it after release if it ever gets released (it's evidently been delayed 3 times already?). They haven't mentioned what that release date is other than it might finally be soon. Since they aren't flooding the channel with talk about it like they have for other games about to release, I'm guessing it's not high on their game priority lists.

The community here is pretty diverse when it comes to taste in games. I think you overestimate how popular Cyberpunk is within this specific community.

I get it, you and SturmChurro are excited for the game's release. I'm sure there are some other FFXIV players just as excited. I hope it's well made and all of you thoroughly enjoy it.

It didn't need to be dragged into this thread to derail it. Go talk about it in Cyberpunk forums.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I refuse to believe that even the FFXIV community is so sheltered they don't know about the release of Cyberpunk. Many of them play via Steam, where it has been heavily advertised, where it will be heavily advertised very soon, and where it is currently the GLOBAL top seller.

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I haven't actually seen (or at least taken note of) any advertisements for CP2077 on Steam. Possibly it has been on the store front page which I basically never look at. I'm part of one community where it's been mentioned a few times though, and at least one webcomic I follow made a joke about it being delayed. I personally don't buy into the hype though. My reaction is a solid meh, in large part because I know I wouldn't have time to play it anyway. I also haven't played Mass Effect, Witcher or any of the Elder Scrolls series so maybe I don't know what I'm missing.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

You don't have a Twitter, Youtube or Tumblr account or anything like that? If so, nobody you follow has mentioned the game at all?

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Yeah, I'm on Twitter, YouTube and Tumblr. No, nobody I follow has mentioned the game's release date, or much about it in the first place.

Why do you find that so hard to believe?

Some of us don't bend their lives around the Gaming Industry, and use Social Media for other purposes.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

A couple of members of my FC have mentioned the game in the Other Games channel of our FC Discord. They've said they plan to play it after release if it ever gets released (it's evidently been delayed 3 times already?). They haven't mentioned what that release date is other than it might finally be soon. Since they aren't flooding the channel with talk about it like they have for other games about to release, I'm guessing it's not high on their game priority lists.

The community here is pretty diverse when it comes to taste in games. I think you overestimate how popular Cyberpunk is within this specific community.

I get it, you and SturmChurro are excited for the game's release. I'm sure there are some other FFXIV players just as excited. I hope it's well made and all of you thoroughly enjoy it.

It didn't need to be dragged into this thread to derail it. Go talk about it in Cyberpunk forums.

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Says the person who made a post so large about proper emoji usage, I couldn't fit it in a quote.

Please. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Just because some people can't pick up on humour it doesn't mean that every last little comment needs to be picked apart or explained in-depth. Then again, I can't claim to be surprised that elements of the FFXIV community are both unable to detect humour/sarcasm and are isolated enough to not be aware of major upcoming video-game releases!

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Its crazy haha. When I read a novel, I literally can't read it anymore unless the author puts /s or "DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A JOKE" after certain dialogue. :) And yea, this is the most isolated and defensive community I've ever seen. People get so hostile when someone references another game that's not UwU

I hope they manage to have a christmas event this year.
The caroling minigame is always fun.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

I think the main reason other games start earlier is because their holidays have a lot more grinding and daily quests.

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at least the event lasts more than 1hr

It all depends whether you've been naughty or nice.

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Originally Posted by Teraluna

It all depends whether you've been naughty or nice.

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Knowing this community, they would turn that into an ERP thing. No thanks. I'll have my Christmas event without that, please and thanks.

The Other big C in the news has canceled Christmas.

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

The Other big C in the news has canceled Christmas.

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We ran that joke already in this thread.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Knowing this community, they would turn that into an ERP thing. No thanks. I'll have my Christmas event without that, please and thanks.

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Anything is an ERP thing if it's someone's fetish.

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Originally Posted by Beardo04

at least the event lasts more than 1hr

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I would like there to be more to FFXIV events. I've been pushing for that, but I also don't want them to neglect what makes them special: Something new every year.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

I would like there to be more to FFXIV events. I've been pushing for that, but I also don't want them to neglect what makes them special: Something new every year.

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If you say so.. All these decorations suck, and I can't even use them. :mad:

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Quoting Theodric, because he makes the point perfectly.



I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that Cyberpunk 2077 was obscure, a niche release. I had the impression it is, and has been one of the most hyped products in gaming history. Seriously though, a lot of people won't be playing the patch - inititially - because of Cyberpunk. This in no way means the game is dying. SE just happens to have a release date ONE DAY before potentially the most anticipated game release in gaming history.

I refuse to believe that even the FFXIV community is so sheltered they don't know about the release of Cyberpunk. Many of them play via Steam, where it has been heavily advertised, where it will be heavily advertised very soon, and where it is currently the GLOBAL top seller.

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Make me another folk that hasn't heard of this game until literally just yesterday. Your joke fell flat with me as well.

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Originally Posted by Coletergeist

Make me another folk that hasn't heard of this game until literally just yesterday. Your joke fell flat with me as well.

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Then it wasn't for you then, was it? :rolleyes:

WoTz cYbErPunK 2O77??

https://i.imgflip.com/1p74ap.jpg

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

If you say so.. All these decorations suck, and I can't even use them. :mad:

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I was talking more about content than items, but there is also more than housing decorations.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

I was talking more about content than items, but there is also more than housing decorations.

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What content? :confused:

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

What content? :confused:

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If you don't like it, I hear an obscure title called Cyberfunk 707, or some such is coming out. Maybe you'd enjoy that more?

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Originally Posted by MsQi

If you don't like it, I hear an obscure title called Cyberfunk 707, or some such is coming out. Maybe you'd enjoy that more?

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Serious question, you seriously consider clicking through meaningless dialogue "content". Gotta be kidding me. "I really liked the Rhythm game Christmas carols!1" I'd be hard-pressed to call that content either. More like gimmick. By the way, the outfit sucked.

So anything you don't like doesn't count?