Predict the Fall of Garuda! (04/13/2012)

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Originally Posted by Coombah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU9p1...layer_embedded

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But will she break like the wind?

If you listen before the Music they put on the Trailer.. You hear a: Ahhhhhh (in a Chorus like manner) Hint of a New theme for Garuda?

I predict Garuda will use mini tornados to remove random party members temporarily out of combat.

I suggest that temporarily removed party members be treated to mulled tea, a light massage and elevator music.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

I predict Garuda will use mini tornados to remove random party members temporarily out of combat.

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That would actually be a really awesome mechanic for the fight. Too bad there probably won't be anything like it.

Maybe she will blow pieces of armor off u like lamias in 11 did

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Originally Posted by Amherst

That would actually be a really awesome mechanic for the fight. Too bad there probably won't be anything like it.

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WoW has it, elements that WoW has are being systematically added to FFXIV => chance is pretty high.

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

I wonder if they are hinting at patch 1.22 coming on 23rd? Or on the 27th as patches are on the thursday/friday

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They are aiming to release the patch by the end of April so my guess would be 27th if all goes well. Start of may is " golden week " in Japan and everyone is off so yes the push is before then.

Well, they seem to be on "1.22 info spam" mode, so unless they find major bugs, I'm confident 1.22 will land before Golden Week.

Their pattern is: spamm first and then there is a whole lot of nothing.

Who wants to bet that the people who get the first garuda weapons will be the people who took part in the contest and not the people who actually got the first kill?

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Originally Posted by viion

She sounds so vicious and looks epic, very excited, sad to see it looks like Gridania, was hoping we'd get one in Limsa (could be wrong tho). Like the hint lol but that is the same thing they said about Moogle, and it was killed 3 days faster.

EDIT: Infact I am pretty sure its Coerthas now, which is freaking epic, love that zone!

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Well there is a difference between King Moogle and Ifrit strats, one is the Mogs played regular jobs and while some of them were quirky they were all pretty predictable in what they were doing. Ifrit on the other hand was single target, progressively got more difficult as the fight went on and his moves get harder to avoid/predict (not to mention being the first primal fight it took us some time getting used to it). I'd say given that information it probably wouldn't take quite as long as it did for someone to take out Ifrit the first time, but it would probably be a bit longer than it did for us to take out Mog. Then again, game mechanics have changed and we have Jobs now so maybe not.

It's definitely Coerthas, while exploring the region for Atherites a while back I found a node up near Feathergorge, which is a stonesthrow away from Natalan.

I think Moogles just give you a LOT more room for error.

I'm not sure why, but I seem to get the feeling that Garuda will be blowing us all around while we have a choke enfeeble on us. More dastardly so, she'll put heavy on all the WHM and blow the tank across the stage out of range of healing. ; ;

I... I think I'm scared...

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Aerial Blast is gonna suck...

I hope they add something to it other than just "Oh look! Heavily damaging elemental attack!".

Maybe have it push you and your party around the battlefield. Can't move while casting you say? *Gardua laugh*

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You can cast during push back so I laugh back at her.

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Originally Posted by Amherst

That would actually be a really awesome mechanic for the fight. Too bad there probably won't be anything like it.

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I could quite easily see Shiva doing this, encasing a player in ice or something.

1- Heal the player through the damage
2- all DD have to break the ice before it kills the encased player.

Awww now I want shiva :(

I hope Garuda has blades of wind which fire out in random directions.

Expect Chokega also, WHM better get their Esuna at the ready :)

I know. This is going to be the most fun fight or...

3 WHM

2 BRD

3 BLM

1 WAR

Fight it against a wall so you don't get blown around probably

It'd be cool to if they actually made you inflict gravity on her to keep her from flying so much.

Blizzard combos ftw!!! Oh wait... FUUUUUUUUUUUU!

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Originally Posted by StateAlchemist

Blizzard combos ftw!!! Oh wait... FUUUUUUUUUUUU!

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I laughed like Garuda.

My prediction is that Garuda will take longer than Ifrit did the first time, or about as long. Why? I think its the litmus test for "balance". That is, developers have given us relatively easy content up til now. AV and CC were harder than the other stuff we've been given, and took a fair amount of time for ppl to do successfully. Garuda will probably be the hardest thing the devs have ever implemented in the game for several reasons:

1) Ppl been whining about difficulty

2) Jobs actually have to be *tested* to see where they are lacking. Only stupidly hard content will do that.

3) They specifically said they will address the whole "5 ranged dd for auto victory". I expect the fight to be severely punishing on ranged, but just as punishing on melee. In other words, almost impossible without figuring out how to balance a party.

Because we've been so accustomed to certain strategies, it will actually take quite a bit of time before someone can think outside the box and run a successful group. I expect it to be THE fight that will require a balanced party makeup where everyone is forced to cooperate in a highly successful manner.

It'll be interesting....

Garuda will be weak to Ice
But there are no Ice combos and the actual Ice spells are more for status affect than damage....
Garuda will be strong against Fire
So it looks like Thunder>Thundara>Burst is the way to go for a Mage
Fists of Earth for a Monk (because Fist of Wind/Fire would be ineffective) meaning monk probably wont get much use
If you get knocked out of healing range A LOT then a PLD tank might be the way to go for self heals... although it would have to be seriously needed to warrant choosing PLD over WAR
Garuda seems like it would have some serious ranged AOE attacks (Like Ifrit), so BRD isn't quite as safe a DD as it has been on other fights
Dragoons jumps could prove useful in a fight like this

All just fun speculation of course... I could be 100% wrong

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Originally Posted by Doho

It'd be cool to if they actually made you inflict gravity on her to keep her from flying so much.

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Or it would be cool if you had to INCAP to keep her from flying so much

Kind of silly that they're rewarding people guessing some time over the LS/party that gets the first kill (which could easily just get DM from the chest rofl)

OH HEY YOU GUESSED THE CORRECT TIME HERE GET A GARUDA WEAPON

Oh yeah, you guys who actually killed it first... have some Dark Matter :D

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

Kind of silly that they're rewarding people guessing some time over the LS/party that gets the first kill (which could easily just get DM from the chest rofl)

OH HEY YOU GUESSED THE CORRECT TIME HERE GET A GARUDA WEAPON

Oh yeah, you guys who actually killed it first... have some Dark Matter :D

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Lol nawww they'd still have to get 5 more wings or whatever to get a weapon. I thought Garuda required 10 like Ifrit.

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

Lol nawww they'd still have to get 5 more wings or whatever to get a weapon. I thought Garuda required 10 like Ifrit.

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Exactly xD

It would at least be cool to have a world/server first achievement, or something. If they're recording first kill times and making up contests I don't see why they couldn't do that

Latency really shouldn't play a part in making a fight difficult. There is only so much they can do with server code optimization. Fact is even when 2.0 comes out the servers will still be located in Japan adding a lot of latency for people not in Japan. SE really should of rented out space at data centers in each region the game is supported you know like any other MMO company would do. So we wouldn't have this problem to start with.

I'll reserve judgement until 2.0 is out. Getting hit by stuff when on your screen it looks like your out of the way shouldn't happen.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Latency really shouldn't play a part in making a fight difficult. There is only so much they can do with server code optimization. Fact is even when 2.0 comes out the servers will still be located in Japan adding a lot of latency for people not in Japan. SE really should of rented out space at data centers in each region the game is supported you know like any other MMO company would do. So we wouldn't have this problem to start with.

I'll reserve judgement until 2.0 is out. Getting hit by stuff when on your screen it looks like your out of the way shouldn't happen.

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Who says Garuda will be hard because of latency o.O?

And really you dont need that great of latency in an MMORPG. Any problems caused by latency can be entirely fixed by optimizing the server. This isn't an FPS, or a game that requires split second timing.

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

Who says Garuda will be hard because of latency o.O?

And really you dont need that great of latency in an MMORPG. Any problems caused by latency can be entirely fixed by optimizing the server. This isn't an FPS, or a game that requires split second timing.

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Some other mmo's are much faster paced almost as fast as a FPS. Mostly because they also support PVP so they need a faster gameplay rate. In comparison FFXIV battle rate is pretty slow compared to most everything else out there.

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Originally Posted by KingVintage

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Wong thread to post it in. :P

Garuda Why so sexy?

I really hope this is going to be the start of content that punishes having too many of one class/job stacked!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfg97-5uhFQ

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Originally Posted by viion

She sounds so vicious and looks epic, very excited, sad to see it looks like Gridania, was hoping we'd get one in Limsa (could be wrong tho). Like the hint lol but that is the same thing they said about Moogle, and it was killed 3 days faster.

EDIT: Infact I am pretty sure its Coerthas now, which is freaking epic, love that zone!

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I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought it was Coerthas!
May I ask what made you think Coerthas?

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Originally Posted by Griss

When it comes to the primal fights, i love the fights. I hate the half assed loot system there going with.

but neither here nor there, we have a new curvacious mountain to climb.

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At least she'll be easier on the eyes~

I found her laugh to be very Great Fairy.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

I found her laugh to be very Great Fairy.

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Same i was thinking shit where is my bottle so i can grab an fairy >.>.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Latency really shouldn't play a part in making a fight difficult. There is only so much they can do with server code optimization. Fact is even when 2.0 comes out the servers will still be located in Japan adding a lot of latency for people not in Japan. SE really should of rented out space at data centers in each region the game is supported you know like any other MMO company would do. So we wouldn't have this problem to start with.

I'll reserve judgement until 2.0 is out. Getting hit by stuff when on your screen it looks like your out of the way shouldn't happen.

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Latency isn't the issue, server lag is.

The problems in Ifrit are down to bad servers not the distance they are, well mostly, the rest is just crappy animation lock.