Please merge the EU DataCenters together

Why not merge all? We could visit all servers, and play with everyone... dunno why people are against that.

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Originally Posted by testname

Why not merge all? We could visit all servers, and play with everyone... dunno why people are against that.

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Afaik, it's too much for the current servers, but in an Interview Yoshi-P once said they are looking into Megaservers.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

I CANT PLAY THE GAME IN PEAK HOURS, IT IS WORSE THAN BEFORE SPLIT.

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You consider quarter to two on a weekday to be peak hours? I would expect most people to be working or in school. Maybe try again in the evening when people are at home playing games?

Edit: Also, I don't know about players in general but me and my friends about the main scenario roulette unless we're in really desperate need of tomestones. It's just not worth sitting through all the cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Afaik, it's too much for the current servers, but in an Interview Yoshi-P once said they are looking into Megaservers.

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I thought he only talked about visits between datacenters, not megaservers?

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Look at the Screenshot itself. Was taken around 8pm.

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You mean 8pm Eorzea time. The local time on the screenshot is 13:48. I assume it was taken about two minutes before posting and the poster lives in the GMT time zone since the post timestamp is 15:50 for me.

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Originally Posted by tdb

You mean 8pm Eorzea time. The local time on the screenshot is 13:48. I assume it was taken about two minutes before posting and the poster lives in the GMT time zone since the post timestamp is 15:50 for me.

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Was already deleting my post before you answered and will retreat to the Corner of Shame.

Never mind. Too slow :P

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Afaik, it's too much for the current servers, but in an Interview Yoshi-P once said they are looking into Megaservers.

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I don't care if its too much or not, its suggestion, if they can't make it happen now, maybe in few years. I just want to have the option to play with everyone in EU.

Didn't the dc split happen to avoid at Shadowbringers launch another Raubahn Ex incident, which players did get very vocal about ?

Also since i see that the op is from Lich, i dont know for english and german players, but french ones (who can speak english and with whom there is no language barrier) did massively believe that Chaos would be THE raid server, and most serious raiders moved here. Some kind of self-fulfilling prophecy : if everybody leaves Light, of course it will be hard to find people left on it XD

I understand it is difficult for Ultimate players but I think the issue lies more in how small the number of players who actually attempt Ultimates is rather than the size of the datacentres. Considering the bigger picture, it makes sense why they split the datacentres and while ques are arguably longer than previously at times, on the whole for me personally they feel pretty much average. There is the added boon of not having stupid crashes, errors and login ques during the expansion/ patch days.

Backtracking slightly, I think the greater issue is in how few people actually want to do ultimate. I'm not saying it should go, but I do wonder if there is a way to make it more appealing and accessible.

no.
EU might be the smallest region, but pre-split Chaos was the second largest data centre after Aehter (lol, Balmung and Gilgamesh), with practically all servers being amongst the 20 highest in population. The split was a necessary evil to allow EU to grow again without Chaos constantly going up in flames.

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Originally Posted by Kleeya

Didn't the dc split happen to avoid at Shadowbringers launch another Raubahn Ex incident, which players did get very vocal about ?

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I'm sure nobody would want to fix the problems of one single day by suffering the rest of the days the expansion.

I'm not in EU but the only responses I see against this idea, seem to be against it for purely biased reasons. Probably some flawed opinion on the "reputation" of some worlds in the Chaos data center.

It's the same thing for the U.S. data centers. People keep parroting the "Aether=Raid, Primal=Casual, Crystal=Gross ERP" idea. In reality, all these people are the same. In fact, I just recently moved from Gilgamesh (the so-called raid central of Aether) over to Excalibur (Primal), and Primal's PF is twice the size of Aether's every night (including Static parties) and the zones are far more lively.

It's so stupid, these reputations are almost never founded in truth. People are so eager to form teams and begin their "us versus them" rhetoric. Fact: More people = Larger pool to play with.

P.S. I have seen the report showing Aether has more clears of hard content than Primal but to be honest, it's not THAT much more.

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Originally Posted by Pallero

I'm sure nobody would want to fix the problems of one single day by suffering the rest of the days the expansion.

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Well, i did give Raubahn Ex as an example, but there was more that, and not only at ShB launch. For another example i remember very clearly at some point entering Leap of Faith being too hard for the old dc to handle because of the amount of people trying to do it at the same time. Are we even sure that merging the two dc will not pose the same kind of problems ?

Oh and yes, tons of people worried of another Raubahn Ex were thinking the dc split to be a very good thing back then. It is just that SE can never win with a community asking for something one day, and the exact contrary a bit later.

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Originally Posted by Pallero

I'm sure nobody would want to fix the problems of one single day by suffering the rest of the days the expansion.

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The thing is that it's not a "single day", it would have been every single moment at peak time. We don't have the figures, but we can confidently say that EU Dcs welcomed a lot of new players with 5.0, which would have made the situation even worse.
So everyone on the same DC would give laggy and bugged instances, endless queues because of unavailable instances and so on. I remember 4.2 launch was a nightmare in Sigmascape, phantom train's ghosts warping all over the place and sometimes too many people logged in on Tuesday evening would have bad repercussions on people in Savage instances.
That problem even happened for a few hours during SB lauch (at least on Chaos), so after the split. And I think I read something that too many people doing Ishgard stuff recently did have an impact on Alexander Ultimate instances?

So yes, there was a need to either split or beef up the servers. And I'm pretty sure the latter option was too expensive. But they did say they were now trying to work a system for inter DC stuff, so who knows. I doubt it will come by a ShB patch, but maybe for 6.0

Nah, I'm good fam.
No Moogle for me.

I agree that the split needed to happen as we were significantly large. The problem with only having the one DC was that a 50% split hurt us way more than NA losing 33% from each.

I'm in the camp that it's a necessary evil in the long run as we'll hopefully get numbers back. But they're in a catch-22 here. If they remerge the DC, there's less room to grow, but if it remains split the low playerbase might scare off those people who will help it grow. But in the grand scheme, it's probably for the best if they can get people to stick.

Also obligatory "lolMoogle".

I remember they announced plans for cross-datacenter visits some time ago (was it in one of Yoshi's interviews?), starting with datacenters in the same region. Who knows, maybe eventually it'll evolve into an unified DF/PF too.

Wow, and here I thought server stereotypes are getting old. But people still seem to insist on them, so maybe we shouldn't merge the servers - I like how everyone is getting along on Chaos.

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Wow, and here I thought server stereotypes are getting old. But people still seem to insist on them, so maybe we shouldn't merge the servers - I like how everyone is getting along on Chaos.

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I'm thinking the same.
I'd like to play with my friends from Light, but if a merge involves all this hate..no thanks.

If datacenters gets merged, you have to prepare for more and more locusts to your hunt and whatsoever content the "Visitors" can reap from your home world.

Thank you but no, thank you.

Who knew the Moogles were finally eating baguettes and wearing berets.

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Originally Posted by Metsonm

I agree that the split needed to happen as we were significantly large. The problem with only having the one DC was that a 50% split hurt us way more than NA losing 33% from each.

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The problem is that the Euro population is too big for a single datacenter, but not quite big enough for two datacenters.
So the choice is between overloaded and unstable instance servers, or long queues due to lack of people. A classic no-win situation.

No one seems to like transferring so what's the point in a merge? Spriggan and Twintania were created for a reason but errr...

No, I remember how unstable chaos was before the split, I don't want a repeat of that.

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

No one seems to like transferring so what's the point in a merge? Spriggan and Twintania were created for a reason but errr...

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I don't get what this has to do with datacenter merge at all.

FFXIV team has been aiming for a mega server of shorts for a while now pretty much to make the game population proof without the need of server merges because of housing. The ability to use DF/PF with people from another DC of the same region is going to be a reality sooner or later.

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Originally Posted by DuskTS

But we have 18 million registered accounts, surely the servers are jam-packed with players?

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18 million accounts not subs. A intentionally misleading stat.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

The problem is that the Euro population is too big for a single datacenter, but not quite big enough for two datacenters.
So the choice is between overloaded and unstable instance servers, or long queues due to lack of people. A classic no-win situation.

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Or they could invest in better server code. Other much smaller companies manage with mega servers.